WorldCharts #14 by The Silents [web] & Scoopex [web] & Hoodlum [web]
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added on the 2002-08-21 17:09:06 by barock |
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great charts mag. many voters. looks great. well done guys, but can we have regular all-platforms releases of it now? =)
cool.. have bben waiting for it sooo long...
Finally!
lame intro. cool charts.
Anyone noticed slight similarities between places 6 and 7 in the wilddemo charts? :)
That single mishap apart, cool charts. Glad to see it finally released.
That single mishap apart, cool charts. Glad to see it finally released.
could have put this in a text file :)
dont forget to visit www.theworldcharts.de
Nice to watch, boring to read
Very very cool. As usual, the criticism first:
- Mipmaps wouldn't have hurt
- The font is somewhat unreadable, especially the small one. Next time please something more eye-pleasing, ok?
- 4.5mb for a pure chartsmag are too much IMHO. I think three instead of five tunes would have been enough, and maybe you could pack the rest of the data better or sth..
- I would like to adjust the scroll speed or at least stop/fast forward through the upscrollers
Apart from that, really good to see that there's a decent chartsmag again. And the innovative/stylish interface looks great. Music is cool, too. Not to forget having three intros in the intro top10 *g*
Anyway, continue this.
- Mipmaps wouldn't have hurt
- The font is somewhat unreadable, especially the small one. Next time please something more eye-pleasing, ok?
- 4.5mb for a pure chartsmag are too much IMHO. I think three instead of five tunes would have been enough, and maybe you could pack the rest of the data better or sth..
- I would like to adjust the scroll speed or at least stop/fast forward through the upscrollers
Apart from that, really good to see that there's a decent chartsmag again. And the innovative/stylish interface looks great. Music is cool, too. Not to forget having three intros in the intro top10 *g*
Anyway, continue this.
cool
flawless apart from the (lackluster 131099/sunflower, distance 131099/sunflower) glitch in the wild charts
could indeed use the variable scrolling speed, size is ok here
could indeed use the variable scrolling speed, size is ok here
Hehe, this is fun :) Finally some "bigger" charts again.
Respect for the work that obviously went into this (especially the votecounting :). Interface is nice too except the font issue kb already mentioned.
Some other suggestions: Scene Homepage/Group Homepage/Wild Demo... doesn't make much sense to seperate them based on the platform IMHO. Atleast with Wild Demo, the distinction is absolutely artificial anyway.
The intro is not really necessary IMHO - just an intropic would do :)
Respect for the work that obviously went into this (especially the votecounting :). Interface is nice too except the font issue kb already mentioned.
Some other suggestions: Scene Homepage/Group Homepage/Wild Demo... doesn't make much sense to seperate them based on the platform IMHO. Atleast with Wild Demo, the distinction is absolutely artificial anyway.
The intro is not really necessary IMHO - just an intropic would do :)
The only chart that really seems correct is the most hated part :D
The worldcharts are finally back and they look better than ever.
Thank you guys
Thank you guys
good viewing for all... keep up the good work guyz! and thanx.
Cool. And not only because we have entered the charts! :D
I'd like them in a smaller form (intro-sized?), but they are good anyway.
I'd like them in a smaller form (intro-sized?), but they are good anyway.
I only say: Back to the roots ... THX you! to bring us this fine Scene-Chart back !!!
Since it seems like im the only one who has a modem nowdays i wont complain about the size. However.. this wont run on my laptop so i have to wait until the c64 version or until someone releases a .txt version of it.
Fucking great production mates! Go on that way, the scene needs it!
great production, i have read it from start to end. i will be waiting for the next issue like mad...
corrections:
- mogue is no amiga ascii group, but an amiga ascii artist
- the categories "c64 musicians" and "c64" graphicians" are switched
- a "mp3 release group" category in the warez part would be nice. leave alone the "movie" category, it has nothing to do with scene imho.
- change "pc ascii" into "pc ansi/ascii", as on this platform the both artforms are kinda going together.
- the diz file has to be called "file_id.diz" and NOT wcharts.diz, as then no bbs lister can read it. (YES, there ARE still bbs's)
- i want to be in the amiga ascii artist charts ! =)
corrections:
- mogue is no amiga ascii group, but an amiga ascii artist
- the categories "c64 musicians" and "c64" graphicians" are switched
- a "mp3 release group" category in the warez part would be nice. leave alone the "movie" category, it has nothing to do with scene imho.
- change "pc ascii" into "pc ansi/ascii", as on this platform the both artforms are kinda going together.
- the diz file has to be called "file_id.diz" and NOT wcharts.diz, as then no bbs lister can read it. (YES, there ARE still bbs's)
- i want to be in the amiga ascii artist charts ! =)
Very nice piece of work gentz, but still it's very obvious to see that it's mainly ppl from the new scene that have voted, but that's also okie dookie, so keep it up gentz ...
Thumb up for a great chart and for stefan to be the most hated scener. :)
+ better make a "gba/gbc" category out of just "gba", because most of these group release gbc too.
Nice to see a well produce chart. I agree with kb thought about the unreadable font and the scroller, scroller really do suck, remove them! :) Good work guys.
nice interface. well, charts, who need charts ;) it´s ok. it would be better to split gfx in 3D an 2D.
damn .. i really cant spell tonight. gah.
kinda lots of votesheets! still lot of charts look empty and pale, you should get more c64 and amiga sceners voting.. (oh yeah how wise advice ;D)
agree with GBC/GBA chart and why having consoles only in illegal charts? there is healthy demoscene on these as well.. + add speccy =]
You guys have managed to create very representative charts of the PC demo scene. More than 500 voters - wow! Respect! This will certainly motivate a lot of people to keep being active in the scene.
A bit too basic perhaps. Would be nice to see a couple of articles or just interviews or party results to read whilst listening to the music (fantastic selection btw).
I also agree with Ryg. An intro pic would be preferable to an intro. It might make it more compatible with low end PCs too.
That aside, it's really good to see a new chart and a new source of motivation for sceners.
I also agree with Ryg. An intro pic would be preferable to an intro. It might make it more compatible with low end PCs too.
That aside, it's really good to see a new chart and a new source of motivation for sceners.
Dunno, but I still don't quite get the point of releasing a > 4mb charts mag, or chart mags in general, but ok, this is well done, except for the hard-to-read font and the not-so-great performance on my old box.
The most hated scener/group charts were fun to read and it was cool to see wildmag in the diskmag charts (das ich das nochmal erleben darf :)
The most hated scener/group charts were fun to read and it was cool to see wildmag in the diskmag charts (das ich das nochmal erleben darf :)
This sure rulez, but could be better too. Please change the font, it's really un readable (especially in scrollers). And what comes to scrollers, please add possibility to change speed. Great musics though. Waiting for the next one :)
pretty great work you guys did there, i'd give 2 thumbs up even if we had the option here. my only problem with this issue is that i barely can't read the small font and .. that i've never been member of mfx. :)
keep it up, you get my support for the coming issues.
keep it up, you get my support for the coming issues.
Support and respekt. Great work guys! I especially loved the most hated/most drunk charts:)
Great response guys, and thanx for all the support :-) We'll be listening to alot of your suggestions for the next issue, and make it even better then :-)
yes
Well , thx to all of u folks !
the original dir name including file_id.diz etc etc , dont worry has been spreaded to every existing ftp top site on this fucking stupid world has been called
WorldCharts_14-HoOdLuM_ScOoPeX_SiLeNtS
wcharts14.zip
cheers to all who still remember
the mad ones on drugs
cheers
regards
autopsy
the original dir name including file_id.diz etc etc , dont worry has been spreaded to every existing ftp top site on this fucking stupid world has been called
WorldCharts_14-HoOdLuM_ScOoPeX_SiLeNtS
wcharts14.zip
cheers to all who still remember
the mad ones on drugs
cheers
regards
autopsy
great! I enjoyed the intro too!
Indeed it is very cool to have a real chartsmag.
Positive criticism coming up:
- Slow, any chance for a slight faster version?
- Small fonts
- Scrollers are non-interactive.
- Export 2 text feature
Positive criticism coming up:
- Slow, any chance for a slight faster version?
- Small fonts
- Scrollers are non-interactive.
- Export 2 text feature
..(cont'd >:)
- configurability for detail/resolution/windowedmode
- kill logging in unpacker (see C:/temp/debug_unrar.txt)
- some keyboard routines (left-right - main categorys; up-down - subcategories; or sg like that)
- top 20 instead of top 10 :)
ehm, no more ideas now... maybe later :)
keep it up until then >:)
- configurability for detail/resolution/windowedmode
- kill logging in unpacker (see C:/temp/debug_unrar.txt)
- some keyboard routines (left-right - main categorys; up-down - subcategories; or sg like that)
- top 20 instead of top 10 :)
ehm, no more ideas now... maybe later :)
keep it up until then >:)
HAHAHA i'm 4th in gfx :)
i ownz JO!
i ownz JO!
devant splif c'est louche, t'as bidouillé les votes? ;)
an ok package, what with the intro being maybe a bit boring...
keep it up.
keep it up.
kenet, thats cos i voted for u a billion times! :)
well most hated pc group is def not correct!
Deviance wins that easily, but anyhow thats the whole fun, ppl will always think this and that, but its something to look forward to.
bring back my bbs!
well most hated pc group is def not correct!
Deviance wins that easily, but anyhow thats the whole fun, ppl will always think this and that, but its something to look forward to.
bring back my bbs!
hm, can't get over 'SAD PROMO' intro... stucked there, w2k
For some reason the chart is really really slow and choppy on my work PC.. Oh well, it's not that good of a machine.
As for the chart itself, it's quite nice. I even liked the intro. This production takes me back to around ~1990 when I first "discovered" the scene and saw Eurochart etc. Now if I could just figure out what the hell some of these weird categories like "oldskool group" mean, I'll be able to vote for the next issue... :)
As for the chart itself, it's quite nice. I even liked the intro. This production takes me back to around ~1990 when I first "discovered" the scene and saw Eurochart etc. Now if I could just figure out what the hell some of these weird categories like "oldskool group" mean, I'll be able to vote for the next issue... :)
oh, yes. the music is very good.
oldschool groups and demos are a great category. this keeps people from voting future crew because they havn't seen any other pc demo in the last five years. even more important on amiga and c64. this old stuff WAS groundbreaking but today's top demos are just much better.
So, "oldskool groups" means teams that haven't released anything in 5 years? Right. Blah, today's scene is so complicated with all the silly terms.. =)
.txt please.
how representative is this when i find razor 1911 on place #6 in the 'best pc groups' chart ;)
i mean COME ON :)
i mean COME ON :)
Sigh. Demos are allowed to take full advantage of newest hardware etc, but diskmags? Come on. I've been eagerly waiting for this since I voted and now I'm told it requires 700MHz CPU (sick) and a Geforce (sick). Oh well, I decide to run it anyway. The intro is very sluggish, but it's manageable. Then I finally get the menus, which are really hard to navigate using the mouse since the cursor lags almost five seconds. Argh. Also, I have no idea how am I supposed to access those actual charts, since clicking on their names does nothing. Don't know if it's me or my computer, but this sure made me angry.
plek: jokecharts :-)
oh and i want funniest group added, then i can vote for farbrausch somewhere :)
oh and i want funniest group added, then i can vote for farbrausch somewhere :)
diamondie: buy a new pc or shut the fuck up
there's no fun in coding dated stuff for dated pc's
there's no fun in coding dated stuff for dated pc's
barock> why not make a webrelease? =) i mean html with gfx and such, but with the charts... platform independant!
Charts like these should have a "no selfvoting" rule (and possibly some kind of identification thingie).
ahhh Worldcharts are back. Too bad after 10 years of inactivity I only recognise 50% of the groups 8)
* Bad Font
* Slow Scroll
* No Keys
* Blah Blah, same as above
Great work bringing back a classic!
* Bad Font
* Slow Scroll
* No Keys
* Blah Blah, same as above
Great work bringing back a classic!
I couldn't find a ay to exit it, even alt-f4 didn't work.. so it ran for 1,5 days now: working with alt-tab here...
Nice mag, but why it soooo slooowly? at 1GHz & FG2. And scrolls are very slow. It's boring to see them all. :( Postscriptum: upi/throb in pc coders top10. wow :)
whooooo, real nice, i loved the charts and the atmosphere (10p). am i the only one who likes the font? :) ... and yes the scrolling sucks :P
But can't we get the current charts in a textfile (or HTML)? Also, I'd like to see Top-20 instead of 10, too. And a Best invitations category would be cool.
diamondie, how about reading more carefully. barock just said he will include .txt charts next time into the package.
Yeah, but I took it to mean that he means the next issue and I'm talking about current issue.
and i am talking about dead whore under your bed
i liked the font
Wow! This is the future of diskmags! The interface is sooooo nice and it ran perfectly on my almost 2 years old computer.
I would love to see charts also for best gba/psx/whatever console...
I would love to see charts also for best gba/psx/whatever console...
it would be nice if i could 1) read the charts in a .TXT or .HTML and 2) skip that ugly intro.
oh yeah, and lator sucks!
oh yeah, and lator sucks!
i liked that intro very much. so fuck you very much, macaw.
font is also readable.
so what the fuck are you talking about?!
font is also readable.
so what the fuck are you talking about?!
macaw: just press esc and you will "skip" the intro ... :)
i agree with macaw on the intro, in a slightly milder way. the interface 'n stuff has a nice polish tho.
bigger fonts for smaller screens ;). anyway nice work, some improvement needed.
venom, sorry, i don't do guys. you can shag stefan or shifter instead.
great ! tho scrollin..doesnt seem to be the best way ;p
tho its still roxx!!
tho its still roxx!!
cant come across the sad starting screen.. any comments anyone?
nice
Ye oldskool spirit is finally back!
foxx^TSL
foxx^TSL
the font truely sucks bigtime, and i'm not that avid fan of the interface either. otherwise an ok mag. makes one think, why can't this be published in html for everyones comfort. i don't think that "oldskoolism" is enough for explanation.
anyway nice to see a comeback of such charts.
anyway nice to see a comeback of such charts.
nice
Barock, u r absolutely right. Don't do a html site about the charts. Most of them died before the lived.
cool.
html version would be a bit too ordinary. too banal. oldskoolism is enough for a reason to keep it this way, with the text files included in the package :)
diamondie, i don't see the point in a "best invitation" chart since the idea of invitro's is more to announce a party (or whatever) and invite people there, than to show off code/gfx/music.
and why is razor 6th? :D
html version would be a bit too ordinary. too banal. oldskoolism is enough for a reason to keep it this way, with the text files included in the package :)
diamondie, i don't see the point in a "best invitation" chart since the idea of invitro's is more to announce a party (or whatever) and invite people there, than to show off code/gfx/music.
and why is razor 6th? :D
too much requirements...
energia / sunflower 1rst?! hahaha.. bad bad..
rocks like bukkake in beach at warm summerday
worldchart as it is would be perfect if:
- more than the 10 first would be displayed
- there was a way to quickly jump to this or
that position
- eventually, that one could search for a "string"
in the charts
- more than the 10 first would be displayed
- there was a way to quickly jump to this or
that position
- eventually, that one could search for a "string"
in the charts
charts with 'razor 1911' in the best demogroup charts are fundamentally wrong.
hey hey barock, you cant do this !!! please leave WC as it is. no "light version" and for sure NO lame html version. pouet.net peepz aren't the WHOLE scene, so you dont just have to go after the "opinions" here. revive the tradition and let WC still be what it is, namely a CHARTMAG.
barock, it sounds pretty damn good if you got over 2000 downloads in just a few days for a scene production that's not a demo - congratulations!
so what exactly makes you think people would prefer a html site and it's not worth doing a second issue??! I don't get it...
so what exactly makes you think people would prefer a html site and it's not worth doing a second issue??! I don't get it...
I understand Barock. You work so hard on such a production, getting the design right, checking votes, adding nice tunes...
And then you get the comment "can't you do a text file instead because my pc can't run it". At such times, you say "can't they just appreciate and enjoy the hard work".
And Razor1911 in pc charts...well, charts will always be false in some way as people will always cheat when voting (can't understand why though).
Major respect to all who worked on this very cool chart (very nice tunes and design). I loved it!
And then you get the comment "can't you do a text file instead because my pc can't run it". At such times, you say "can't they just appreciate and enjoy the hard work".
And Razor1911 in pc charts...well, charts will always be false in some way as people will always cheat when voting (can't understand why though).
Major respect to all who worked on this very cool chart (very nice tunes and design). I loved it!
rock on Barock !
I only know guys in the most drunken scener chart ( hello gnilk and pantaloon ! )
keep up
I only know guys in the most drunken scener chart ( hello gnilk and pantaloon ! )
keep up
ranks based on crap
intro is good, but it need i think a good config to show it
(pass it by pressing esc key, i clicked LMB but it not work)
arg! scrooling of texts is too smooth and slow!
damned, i must wait too much too read things, why we can'T speed this scrooling
by pressing LMB for example!
charts admin which accept votes for 'RETIRED' people sucks anyway!
you wanted to do charts and you count votes for people which are no longer on the demoscene?! it's sucks
forget it, dont worth the download
(pass it by pressing esc key, i clicked LMB but it not work)
arg! scrooling of texts is too smooth and slow!
damned, i must wait too much too read things, why we can'T speed this scrooling
by pressing LMB for example!
charts admin which accept votes for 'RETIRED' people sucks anyway!
you wanted to do charts and you count votes for people which are no longer on the demoscene?! it's sucks
forget it, dont worth the download
I just watched it today. I didn't liked at the beginning that it wants a 3d accelerated card, since a diskmag is pure 2d text, not much 3d,.. and at a least a nice pleasant chart/diskmag should be always readable in lower hardware..
Though it's the first time to read an accelerated diskmag (?! :) and looks really diferrent and appealing with the particles and music curve and highres stuff! But still, I beleive it would be good to also see a software version of it in the future, because diskmag is not a demo and you want to read it no matter if it doesn't use the latest technology..
I don't like several things, which you should think to improve: 1) the fonts are way to small to read 2) Some of the sections (e.g. greets) scroll smoothly and slowly a text,. nice... but there should be an option to scroll through it faster.. 3) There is no 3...
It's also nice to see so many voters finally in charts, more sceners should support to make a less subjective charts on PC again! (Though,. charts are always subjective..) How the hell didn't I voted the first time? I hope I will not miss the second..
Good new start for a new big chartsmag with lot of voters though!
Though it's the first time to read an accelerated diskmag (?! :) and looks really diferrent and appealing with the particles and music curve and highres stuff! But still, I beleive it would be good to also see a software version of it in the future, because diskmag is not a demo and you want to read it no matter if it doesn't use the latest technology..
I don't like several things, which you should think to improve: 1) the fonts are way to small to read 2) Some of the sections (e.g. greets) scroll smoothly and slowly a text,. nice... but there should be an option to scroll through it faster.. 3) There is no 3...
It's also nice to see so many voters finally in charts, more sceners should support to make a less subjective charts on PC again! (Though,. charts are always subjective..) How the hell didn't I voted the first time? I hope I will not miss the second..
Good new start for a new big chartsmag with lot of voters though!
nice work guys :)
Barock, dont listen to the lame asses who say "do a html version, I cant see the charts cos i have a really shitty PC"
WTF????? So, these guys comment on accel prods, but cant watch an accel diskmag???
Lame or what!
Carry on doing the mag, dont listen to losers (we all know who the real sceners are), and try and cut out more of those fake votes (razor can go f**k themselves)
WTF????? So, these guys comment on accel prods, but cant watch an accel diskmag???
Lame or what!
Carry on doing the mag, dont listen to losers (we all know who the real sceners are), and try and cut out more of those fake votes (razor can go f**k themselves)
well, charts should really be readable on lowend hardware as well.. but no problem with the intro, just make it skippable. + if there are text files as well.. who cares.
(just please no fkn online htmls)
Fuck a html version, if those lamers got a 486 50 mhz with a old isa gfx card they cant be that interested in todays scene anyway.
Keep up the good work, this is just how i wanted it to be !!! :)
Keep up the good work, this is just how i wanted it to be !!! :)
andromeda: this is not a pc only diskmag so i wouldnt understand why a c64 scener (or amiga scener) should have the latest quakestation
I like it very much, perhaps the top10 lists could come to screen a bit slower (just a bit) to keep up the excitement. Apart from kb's comment, i liked the font, it was simple, and stylish, and readable, perhaps it could be just 2 pixels taller or something :)
No HTML versions. Those are for dickweeds. This issue was really great, waiting anxious to see the next one! Respects.
No HTML versions. Those are for dickweeds. This issue was really great, waiting anxious to see the next one! Respects.
OK.
but...
Eurochart (Amiga Charts) rulez ;-)
but...
Eurochart (Amiga Charts) rulez ;-)
i agree, i'm #1 so it must rule
did the worldchartst die already again?
Nope, it's not dead. Issue 15 will be out very soon ;-)
This ROCKS my socks of guyz! U can be proud as hell of this fine production. On a scale up to 10, i'll give u 13. :))
Equal what others say. World Charts own your asses!
very cool atmosphere. keep it more like that...
Great one!
what's the name of the 3rd tune.. made by lug00ber.. is it wcharts2 ? :) .. please.. if you know, tell me :) or tell me there can i find the original.. cause i like ripping music from intros, demos, diskmags... but i like the originals not the ripped ones :)
come back, please
Cool. I like clean interfaces.
Was a surprise to me!
Proper reboot!
Wish you´d still be releasing new Issues! ;)
Wish you´d still be releasing new Issues! ;)
Funny, the .PAK file is a RAR file, but protected with a password. I mean, I am surprised that there is a password. Is it something common?
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