pouët.net

many photo-sharing sites are avoiding lawsuits by saying that the uploading users are responsible for their uploads (and that the site-admins are allowed to delete illegal and copyrighted items on request by the copyright-holder f.i. profesional photografers).

DEMO-SCENE.DENMARK:
well, no. they arent avoiding lawsuits, they are just being stupid and prolly driven by some stupid americans who thinks you can stick a note "we are not responsible" and go ahead and do anything.

Its like, marking a place on the ground of trafalgar square, write: "sometimes i fire a colt targeted this mark, so stand here on your own risc" and then shoot some fag... It acctually WILL get you into jail in most countries (maybee not in Texas, but..)

blah, just shut it down. scene[.org] is dead anyway

... (and yes, that was a joke) ^L^,

Patrick, the problem is that the rights to the file in question have been purchased by a third party, and it's that third party that is mandating the removal of the file. A third party cannot be bound in the manner you're suggesting if they were not party to the original agreement (think of all the software, media etc etc that was made and distro'd for free by indy "creators" then purchased and made commercial by 3rd party distributors). They have the right to change the license at any time, the issue is scene.org's ongoing ability to serve a file regardless of copyright conditions.

Look at it this way: From the point of view of one of these netlabel lamers who doesn't know or care about demoscene spirit, scene.org is just a web host. Like Geocities, but with more space, and less adverts - and therefore they expect to have the same freedom to add and remove files at will. Just imagine if you had a Geocities website you wanted to take down, but they refused, saying "No, we won't remove your work because it's been freely released to the Geocities-scene". You'd be a bit pissed off, wouldn't you?

Well, we all know that scene.org is not Geocities. The problem is that nobody ever wrote a great big policy document to explain this fact to stupid people.

gasman has ruling

madenmann looks at a calendar: "Oh! it's dig-up-a-fuckold-thread day!"

i thought you didnt read pouet, gargaj? :P

he doesn't, he only writes here

Just think, when I wrote that Geocities was probably still the trendy place where all the emo kids would hang out.

fuckings to razor

Anyway, what's the status of the thing?

gasman: thats exatly what happened when ( i guess it was yahoo?) baught geocities. they even have clamed now to be the copyrightholder of pices of code hosted there. wich ssucked, for sure, you coul remove it from the webspace but yahoo still owns it, ( i guess it was yahoo... to lazy to check. )

Man, that's from BEFORE myspace! Goddamnit madenmann, get a job and stop turning pouet.net inside out!

Yeah, really, what's the status???