Things you should know about competitions at parties
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movie festivals? no. the orgas must show all demos. imho. maybe the demo-compo-shows must held in two parts. and of course starts early enough. This is the main compo, and i want that the crowd can be the jury.
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btw. why is halcyon complaining about the jury's preselection? if that demo had been shown on bigscreen, it would have ended up on some of last places anyway...
i have to admit that preselection is always tricky, but who can blame the organisers now? IF you complain about that a big group name like Halcyon was left out -think about what a smaller group with a slightly better production but no name would say about it beeing preselected.
i have to admit that preselection is always tricky, but who can blame the organisers now? IF you complain about that a big group name like Halcyon was left out -think about what a smaller group with a slightly better production but no name would say about it beeing preselected.
Chimera didn't strike me as something that was made to win a party
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i love chimera. maybe it´s not a demo for winning a compo, but it rockz.
It's a well known effect in music compos that from them, emerged a
certain "style" of music.. and even a certain type of composers. Stuff that would get respected otherwise outside of a competition wouldn't work at all in it (because it is not in your face, because it is made to be watched in a relaxed mood, because it doesn't thrive on showing off technical prowess)
Granted that to win a compo you have to provide the public with something it is waiting for, and hence cannot actually provoke it (== which is the only way of inserting new vocabularies) i don't think someone wanting to actually make the medium progress is in any way
interested in the compo itself. Just getting shown in a just and equal setup.
certain "style" of music.. and even a certain type of composers. Stuff that would get respected otherwise outside of a competition wouldn't work at all in it (because it is not in your face, because it is made to be watched in a relaxed mood, because it doesn't thrive on showing off technical prowess)
Granted that to win a compo you have to provide the public with something it is waiting for, and hence cannot actually provoke it (== which is the only way of inserting new vocabularies) i don't think someone wanting to actually make the medium progress is in any way
interested in the compo itself. Just getting shown in a just and equal setup.
how stupid are you guys ?
if you make a prod for a demoparty then you should know the chances of it not being showed if its said so in the rules (ie, preselection).
and saying something like this guys did ( "because the jury doesn't understand art this didn't show up in the compo." ) cant be taken seriously, democompos is not about art, its about showing stuff for tired/drunk people who want some funny action mostly or they will fall asleep ;-)
if you make a prod for a demoparty then you should know the chances of it not being showed if its said so in the rules (ie, preselection).
and saying something like this guys did ( "because the jury doesn't understand art this didn't show up in the compo." ) cant be taken seriously, democompos is not about art, its about showing stuff for tired/drunk people who want some funny action mostly or they will fall asleep ;-)
talk to the hand!
I tell Halcyon, if you want to make a point, do so in the appropriate forum. Chimera as a scene production and as a work of art is as beautiful as you want, but it's not a freakin' demo, just like "going up to the stage to sing" is not a demo regardless how great a voice you have!
Halcyon knew they were close to the edge when they submitted their prod to the demo compo - well, now they know which side of the edge they actually were! The preselection is there for a reason, if you don't like preselections then don't compete, but once you enter the compo you have to accept the rules, not boo-hoo afterwards when things don't go the way you'd like.
The funny thing is, if Halcyon were so concerned about proper judgement of their work, then surrounding Chimera with all this nonsense is the worst way to get honest opinions! If someone is disrespecting Chimera it's not the jury, but the authors themselves by bastardizing it for the purpose of controversy.
Bah.
Halcyon knew they were close to the edge when they submitted their prod to the demo compo - well, now they know which side of the edge they actually were! The preselection is there for a reason, if you don't like preselections then don't compete, but once you enter the compo you have to accept the rules, not boo-hoo afterwards when things don't go the way you'd like.
The funny thing is, if Halcyon were so concerned about proper judgement of their work, then surrounding Chimera with all this nonsense is the worst way to get honest opinions! If someone is disrespecting Chimera it's not the jury, but the authors themselves by bastardizing it for the purpose of controversy.
Bah.
shut the fuck up idiots
i dont like chimera, but i dont feel like wasting a 1293812938 lines on why either ;)
i dont like chimera, but i dont feel like wasting a 1293812938 lines on why either ;)
just for the record..
the demo was handed in early enough..
someone in the jury (can't rember their names) have told me this story:
the demo started, 5 seconds later someone pressed escape, and that was it..
dunno if it's correct or not.. but if it is then bad luck, maybe it wouldn't even gotten preselected in the first place
the demo was handed in early enough..
someone in the jury (can't rember their names) have told me this story:
the demo started, 5 seconds later someone pressed escape, and that was it..
dunno if it's correct or not.. but if it is then bad luck, maybe it wouldn't even gotten preselected in the first place
imho, preselection is ok if the unshowed productions isn't uploaded to ftp's after the party. This way the group that didn't make it through the preselection can submit their demo at another party later. All the work won't have been for nothing.
just for the record..the demo was handed in early enough..just for the record..the demo was handed in early enough..
Thanks and GOODBYE. Fact remains that the most reputable source remains to be hornet-boy Phoenix, who never got to see the thing. No offense, but he's a boyscout when it concerns matters as demos.
My problem isn't the fact that it got cancelled. It's the fact that first of all Halcyon went for the 'pity-us' slant and all of you braindead motherfuckers went and exclaimed how oh-so-kubrick it was.
I have a can of tomato puree, and I signed it with my handle. WORSHIP YOU CRETINS.
Thanks and GOODBYE. Fact remains that the most reputable source remains to be hornet-boy Phoenix, who never got to see the thing. No offense, but he's a boyscout when it concerns matters as demos.
My problem isn't the fact that it got cancelled. It's the fact that first of all Halcyon went for the 'pity-us' slant and all of you braindead motherfuckers went and exclaimed how oh-so-kubrick it was.
I have a can of tomato puree, and I signed it with my handle. WORSHIP YOU CRETINS.
ryg, diver, leia: i think you got preselection the wrong way round - the stuff that is shown in the compo is the stuff that gets preselected.
anyway, compos are a desperate struggle for popularity, and image plays a great part in that (asm demo compo anyone? :D), as does technical prowess, effects, stunning, overwhelming, etc ..
a compo, just like charts, is not about what's good - just a bout what's popular.. and as trax in space should have taught us all, that isn't always the same.
and another question: how many demos have been released BETWEEN parties (not at a party) in the last three years?
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anyway, compos are a desperate struggle for popularity, and image plays a great part in that (asm demo compo anyone? :D), as does technical prowess, effects, stunning, overwhelming, etc ..
a compo, just like charts, is not about what's good - just a bout what's popular.. and as trax in space should have taught us all, that isn't always the same.
and another question: how many demos have been released BETWEEN parties (not at a party) in the last three years?
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assembly democompo is known to be a good one, and you know why ? simply because the selection is aimed to make a show of only one hour of demos that the average assembly will appreciate .. nothing more nothing less ..
what happened during the jury was simple : we actually didn't give our opinion on all demos, some stuff was actually stopped after 5 seconds and directly put "out of the compo" by the main organizer .. it wasn't democratic in my opinion .. and as stupid as we were we didn't whine at all and then the selection was made..
ok now i would have loved to see that halcyon demo and the mfx demo in the compo .. but it actually wasn't fitting the idea of the democompo asm organizers have .. it's their party, they organize the compo the way what they want ..
ppl are stupid .. they say that assembly democompo is nice because it has only decent stuff .. and now they whine because a nice demo wasn't selected .. know what you want to have .. a long boring compo of 2,3 hours showing all demos or a preselected stuff with only demos the average assembly visitors can like ??
the question is open ..
what happened during the jury was simple : we actually didn't give our opinion on all demos, some stuff was actually stopped after 5 seconds and directly put "out of the compo" by the main organizer .. it wasn't democratic in my opinion .. and as stupid as we were we didn't whine at all and then the selection was made..
ok now i would have loved to see that halcyon demo and the mfx demo in the compo .. but it actually wasn't fitting the idea of the democompo asm organizers have .. it's their party, they organize the compo the way what they want ..
ppl are stupid .. they say that assembly democompo is nice because it has only decent stuff .. and now they whine because a nice demo wasn't selected .. know what you want to have .. a long boring compo of 2,3 hours showing all demos or a preselected stuff with only demos the average assembly visitors can like ??
the question is open ..
sorry for the english mistakes .. my coffee isn't made ..
i just hope i made myself clear
i just hope i made myself clear
Please stop whining about this totally irrelevant halcyon demo.
it's not about chimera
Iam going to make a demo called "The 45 min brown spot on the brown background" have this been made before? / brownpheria :--)
cmon, its art
cmon, its art
art perhaps, but crappy art
Totally agree with rygs text. And they did show all the stuff that wasn't preselected to the COMPOs on the bigscreen, tho you couln't VOTE on them...Beacause most of them sucked (except nokia sucks by da swedes :)
Memph: Can I help you on that prod? =)
Memph: Can I help you on that prod? =)
