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Ten years since the last issue of Hugi

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Hugi #38 was published in June 2014. This issue marked the end of an era, as there was no successor.

I personally worked on Hugi for more than 18 years. It was a lot of fun, but it was also very exhausting to make sure that I got new graphics and music for each issue, as well as enough content to make the publication of a new issue worthwhile. Basically, I still enjoyed it, but in the last few years, working on Hugi somehow felt more and more "artificial" and "obsessive" to me. I forced myself to develop new ideas for articles and to research them, even if the topics didn't really interest me.

It's a shame that there's no active diskmag in the PC scene, but I think the weekly videos from psenough make up for it.
added on the 2024-05-10 12:16:08 by Adok Adok
Ok, danke.
added on the 2024-05-10 12:35:29 by SiR SiR
There is a major flaw to every win32 diskmag I know of and that is its engine. Don't get me wrong, there was lot's of code that went into some of the engines over the years but none of them focused on the matter at hand and that is making the text more readable, making the diskmag easier to browse, etc. Also some diskmags changed engines for no apparent reason (zine comes to mind), instead of keeping some sort of consistency.
added on the 2024-05-10 22:09:25 by Defiance Defiance
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It's a shame that there's no active diskmag in the PC scene, but I think the weekly videos from psenough make up for it.


The first is true, the latter is not entirely true. The reason for this being, there is no executable file, there are no (afaik) interview and no coding articles. psenough is doing a very nice job giving us a summary of the past weeks of demoscene productions. But there are lots of things missing in relation to diskmags. But they are two completely different mediums.
added on the 2024-05-11 16:29:11 by rudi rudi
Diskmags would probably work better now if issues focused around a particular exclusive article and had the contents, artwork and music fit that context. In a similar way to what Vandalism News has done with some of it's issues in the past, having a coherent thread across the whole thing. As a modern example look at Digital Eclipse's 'making of' series, where the form factor really benefits how the material is presented. There's a reason for the contents to be in a packaged form.

Short-form 'what I think of modern demos' writing has much more of a place on pouet at this point, because you can't really spark much discourse when a release schedule is maybe 2-3 issues a year.
added on the 2024-05-11 18:44:46 by 4mat 4mat
Here to another decade without Hugi!
added on the 2024-05-12 13:02:08 by havoc havoc
Thanks for another Adok thread about Adok
added on the 2024-05-12 23:57:14 by spiny spiny
I loved this diskmag. Hugi really gave me many pleasant hours immersed in demospirit :)

Hugi also inspired me to create my diskmag. Although I didn’t make it through more than 4 issues :) So, I can imagine what a lot of work it is.
added on the 2024-05-13 06:38:38 by bitl bitl
Let me just add a short remark. Originally Hugi was intended to be a platform for its readers. Indeed, we received a lot of contributions from our readers at the beginning. This changed after the year 2000. The number of articles submitted by the readers declined very much. I don't really know why this happened - but the year 2000 was also the year when pouet.net opened, so maybe the two events are related.

The last few issues of Hugi were mostly created by the editorial staff. But that wasn't what Hugi was originally meant to be.

I think anybody trying to make a diskmag these days would face similar problems.
added on the 2024-05-23 07:48:13 by Adok Adok
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Thanks for another Adok thread about Adok


Don't be picky, albeit Adok's writing qualities degraded I find this thread comes with a legitimate, nostalgic topic. No extra pun needed.

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Let me just add a short remark. Originally Hugi was intended to be a platform for its readers. Indeed, we received a lot of contributions from our readers at the beginning. This changed after the year 2000. The number of articles submitted by the readers declined very much. I don't really know why this happened - but the year 2000 was also the year when pouet.net opened, so maybe the two events are related.


Web 2.0 happened, call it Pouet or any other web space which accelerated the conversation but made it less content driven as you understand per article definition. People stopped reading, stopped taking care about curated content to read. That's online journalism problem of XXI century everywhere. But if you want longer and engaging discussions, content similar to diskmags, even diskmags occasionally popping up in text mode.. come join BBS scene. This is where idiots who just prefer to consume nonsense don't even know how to sign-up...
added on the 2024-05-23 15:52:30 by hollowone hollowone
Either that, or the diskmags just never had that interesting content to begin with, especially compared to the infinite world of the Internet.
added on the 2024-05-23 17:58:16 by Sesse Sesse
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Here to another decade without Hugi!


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added on the 2024-05-25 00:02:39 by dwarf dwarf
No diskmag anymore? We can therefore conclude: Scene is dead.
added on the 2024-05-26 21:18:42 by T$ T$
I know some people say Hugi sucks, but most of them say that only because they don't like me as a person. Hugi is not just my own work, many people contributed to it. If you say Hugi sucks, you also say that the contributions of Ra, Critikill, Forcer, Prince, Dzordan, Chromag, Traymuss, Romeo Knight, JosSs, Zalza, Chavez, CoaXCable, Chris Dragan, etc. suck and that certainly isn't fair. Thanks to all who made Hugi such a great thing!
added on the 2024-05-27 12:33:08 by Adok Adok
Have you considered helping Hugi by stepping out? That would at least help with the "Hugi sucks" mentality you pointed out.
added on the 2024-05-27 13:42:55 by T-101 T-101
T-101: Now you genius please tell me who else should have done the work I did. Would you do it?
added on the 2024-05-27 13:51:08 by Adok Adok
I'm pretty sure T-101 wouldn't have advocated for eugenics, no.
added on the 2024-05-27 14:18:35 by havoc havoc
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T-101: Now you genius please tell me who else should have done the work I did. Would you do it?
Why not have EP do the whole thing?
added on the 2024-05-27 14:27:34 by SiR SiR
With you pushing yourself into the foreground that much it's no wonder that everyone thinks Hugi = Adok.
added on the 2024-05-27 14:33:09 by Kabuto Kabuto
indeed. reread your first post and count the "I"s
Anything that prints anything in support of eugenics or gives a platform for obsessive, dangerous stalkers sucks by definition.
added on the 2024-05-27 16:52:25 by Preacher Preacher
The article about eugenics was not printed in Hugi. It only appeared at my personal homepage, which was hosted by a university server.
added on the 2024-05-28 12:29:07 by Adok Adok
c'mon folks, obviously adok deserves an apology now because he only supported eugenics on his personal website!
added on the 2024-05-28 14:29:54 by havoc havoc
I mean, who *hasn't* supported eugenics in their personal homepage hosted by a university? We've all been there, am I right?
added on the 2024-05-28 15:13:53 by sagacity sagacity

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