Why is Slengpung frozen since 2020?
category: general [glöplog]
What about photos which are tagged with several names / group photos?
What about photos of sceners who passed away?
What about photos of sceners who passed away?
Make slengpung great again!
Going to make an educated guess here, and assume that just by putting Slengpung behind authentication and giving users themselves the ability to de-tag, will solve a huge bunch of problems.
The problematic cases that are left after that, should be addressed of course. But I fail to see how this attempt to refresh the site and bring it to the modern times, would in any way be worse than the current situation.
The problematic cases that are left after that, should be addressed of course. But I fail to see how this attempt to refresh the site and bring it to the modern times, would in any way be worse than the current situation.
You cannot obey the GDPR 100% with everything you are posting at slengpug. To upgrade the site with an actual working backend/frontend with the ability to login via scene-id and delete / blur out pictures at request should be enough. Would be great if Gargaj connects to T-101 and work it out, hosting space is supported by Scamp. What you want more?
Just wanna express how much I appreciate how constructive this discussion is going!
@Gargaj: Thank you for taking care of all these sites for such a long time. People should be more grateful instead of complaining and not making basic effort to solve the problem. Sadly, if everything's working flawlessly, it's always taken for granted.
@T-101: Great job so far! I like where this is going. :)
Concerning facebook (I don't even use that lmao) and the like: I think the big difference is that all this social media stuff is super volatile while a site like slengpung is something you can actually find stuff again and look at it after decades. And I assure you I had QUITE some fun looking through slengpung. :D
@Gargaj: Thank you for taking care of all these sites for such a long time. People should be more grateful instead of complaining and not making basic effort to solve the problem. Sadly, if everything's working flawlessly, it's always taken for granted.
@T-101: Great job so far! I like where this is going. :)
Concerning facebook (I don't even use that lmao) and the like: I think the big difference is that all this social media stuff is super volatile while a site like slengpung is something you can actually find stuff again and look at it after decades. And I assure you I had QUITE some fun looking through slengpung. :D
Slengpung is super nice, I would have had no idea what virgill or bod look like when we first made demos without it. :) Thanks for not letting it die
When mbb died, I spent a lot of time browsing old pictures of him, re-living memories of stuff we had enjoyed together.
Yes, I think Slengpung is important to preserve memories.
Yes, I think Slengpung is important to preserve memories.
yeah it definitely is needed.
Aaaaand the first demoversion is now live for all to test: https://slengpung.didnot.win/
Username / Password: pouet / demodemowewantdemo
This demo site will only be open for a week, maybe two, after which I will shut it down and see where I go from there.
Please keep in mind that this is something I threw together in a couple of days. The layout is crude. There are bugs. There are features missing. This is only a taster. But I was able to add 10k images though which is nice, the newest ones from 2004.
In the sidebar you will find a handy "Feedback" link where you can send anonymous feedback, suggestions etc. Try to keep the fuckings to a minimum.
One point to note is that the actual image files themselves are not protected by authentication, as I feel there is no need for it. Makes it easier to share a single image via url. But I added random characters to those urls, making blind scraping a futile task.
So there. Go check it out.
Username / Password: pouet / demodemowewantdemo
This demo site will only be open for a week, maybe two, after which I will shut it down and see where I go from there.
Please keep in mind that this is something I threw together in a couple of days. The layout is crude. There are bugs. There are features missing. This is only a taster. But I was able to add 10k images though which is nice, the newest ones from 2004.
In the sidebar you will find a handy "Feedback" link where you can send anonymous feedback, suggestions etc. Try to keep the fuckings to a minimum.
One point to note is that the actual image files themselves are not protected by authentication, as I feel there is no need for it. Makes it easier to share a single image via url. But I added random characters to those urls, making blind scraping a futile task.
So there. Go check it out.
Some feedback:
- For desktop browsers, please make a menu bar instead of a hamburger menu. In the general the site looks a little bit too much optimized for phones, but the missing main menu stands out.
- The "link to this pic in ... gallery" is different to what the text says - it links to /photo/nnnn/, not /photos/party/xxx/nnnn/. Due to this if you pass the link, the "next" button will take you to a totally different party
- The global search results have a rather poor layout. If you search for a username, you will have one column with thumbnails vertically, and one column with a list of matching users as an UL. Which typically is a single entry. It would make much more sense to first list the matching users/text results, and have a responsive gallery of thumbnails below that.
- As some in the scene are privacy minded (and due to the GDPR) I would recommend that you host bootstrap and font-awesome yourself instead of using cloudlfare's CDN.
- The thumbnail pictures are not protected at all - you don't need to be logged in, they are sequential, and not protected by the random char stuff you do for the full-sized pics.
- For desktop browsers, please make a menu bar instead of a hamburger menu. In the general the site looks a little bit too much optimized for phones, but the missing main menu stands out.
- The "link to this pic in ... gallery" is different to what the text says - it links to /photo/nnnn/, not /photos/party/xxx/nnnn/. Due to this if you pass the link, the "next" button will take you to a totally different party
- The global search results have a rather poor layout. If you search for a username, you will have one column with thumbnails vertically, and one column with a list of matching users as an UL. Which typically is a single entry. It would make much more sense to first list the matching users/text results, and have a responsive gallery of thumbnails below that.
- As some in the scene are privacy minded (and due to the GDPR) I would recommend that you host bootstrap and font-awesome yourself instead of using cloudlfare's CDN.
- The thumbnail pictures are not protected at all - you don't need to be logged in, they are sequential, and not protected by the random char stuff you do for the full-sized pics.
By the way: Have you also already implemented a feature so that users can upload pics and metadata?
scamp: good feedback, thanks, added to the to-do pile.
There is only so much I can do in a week :) But yes, uploading/metadata stuff is coming. I'll just iron out the most used feature first, which is browsing the site.
As for what comes to the uploading new images, I am thinking that every user who has their sceneid <-> slengpung accounts linked, can upload new images and set their metadata on their own. This privilege can be taken away if abused. I'm also thinking that those uploads should go through an admin for review before being posted on the site.
There is only so much I can do in a week :) But yes, uploading/metadata stuff is coming. I'll just iron out the most used feature first, which is browsing the site.
As for what comes to the uploading new images, I am thinking that every user who has their sceneid <-> slengpung accounts linked, can upload new images and set their metadata on their own. This privilege can be taken away if abused. I'm also thinking that those uploads should go through an admin for review before being posted on the site.
One thing I wonder: if you allow users to untag themselves / hide photos they're tagged in from public, will that work for multiple handles?
I know it's an edge case but some people have changed handles over time for various reasons
I know it's an edge case but some people have changed handles over time for various reasons
All tags are related to the user that was once registered in Slengpung, so removing the tag will remove the relation to the photo and remove the tagged name from the photo info text if it was tagged there. There are some photos that have tags just as plain text, which will require fixing by hand. But from what I've seen, there are not a lot of those.
Thanks for putting in the effort!
- Group Search, clicking a group name shows a loader dialog with a spinner but nothing actually loads (no request fired either)
+1 for making an actual horizontal menu instead of hamburger and sidebar on desktop
- Group Search, clicking a group name shows a loader dialog with a spinner but nothing actually loads (no request fired either)
+1 for making an actual horizontal menu instead of hamburger and sidebar on desktop
LJ: cannot replicate that group search issue, works fine here. Can you see what your browser devtools window says? Errors in console, network activity? I am using javascript fetch API to get the group members to the modal, it should be well supported.
I did notice now, though, is that when you click on the group name, it always scrolls back to the top of the page, which is not what we want and making a note of that
Sent you a screenshot on discord, explicitOriginalTarget is undefiend in this function(in "groups/"), searched for "alcatraz" and clicked the item.
Code:
modalEl.addEventListener("show.bs.modal", async function (event) {
const groupId = event.explicitOriginalTarget.dataset.groupId
const res = await fetch(`/api/v1/groups/${groupId}/`, {
headers: {
'Accept': 'application/json'
},
credentials: "same-origin",
})
LJ's bug confirmed, the group search thingamabob only works in firefox :) Fixing tomorrow
T-101: Out of experience I can say that in the past there had been a very small number of sceners who have done those image uploads. These are people who know to first ask before taking a picture, select good images only, and do the meta-data properly.
I would recommend instead of allowing everyone to upload (and some admin having to go through those) to just create upload accounts for that small list of sceners. Less work for you / future admins, less complaints, higher quality.
Due to this it actually might make sense to define a JSON (or whatever) format that meta-data for a whole set of pictures should be in. This way instead of having to deal with a web UI, the image uploaders can use whatever work process they prefer. And again - less work for you :)
I would recommend instead of allowing everyone to upload (and some admin having to go through those) to just create upload accounts for that small list of sceners. Less work for you / future admins, less complaints, higher quality.
Due to this it actually might make sense to define a JSON (or whatever) format that meta-data for a whole set of pictures should be in. This way instead of having to deal with a web UI, the image uploaders can use whatever work process they prefer. And again - less work for you :)
good points there about the uploading, and I agree. It worked before that there was a set of people who can upload, it would also work now.
I've actually already implemented a quite simple markup to add tagging in the photo info text:
"Blah blah, here's [[4904, T-101]] drinking a beer in Germany", where the number is the slengpung user id, and the string is what will be rendered as text. So it can be "T-LOL" or "Ana" or whatever but will still point to the correct user. Much better than the XML-type thing we had before, I think. That also gave me a chance to import the stuff from the old slengpung as-is, since there was a lot of variance on how peeps were tagged.
I've actually already implemented a quite simple markup to add tagging in the photo info text:
"Blah blah, here's [[4904, T-101]] drinking a beer in Germany", where the number is the slengpung user id, and the string is what will be rendered as text. So it can be "T-LOL" or "Ana" or whatever but will still point to the correct user. Much better than the XML-type thing we had before, I think. That also gave me a chance to import the stuff from the old slengpung as-is, since there was a lot of variance on how peeps were tagged.
What's the purpose behind being able to tag people with a "free-text" name? Seems rather ambigious to the end-user that I could be tagged as "LJ" in one picture and then "The Real Burger King" in another.
It's mostly for the reason that some sceners rarely go by their official handle when tagged. Some examples that spring to mind are truck, el-bee and kurli, all of whom rarely get tagged by their official handles of Sir Garbagetruck, Little Bitchard and Curly Brace.
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These are people who know to first ask before taking a picture, select good images only
FWIW, there are 35 pics of me on Slengpung and I have been asked exactly zero times if I want to be on it. Not that I mind though. That said, I think a some sort of "certified uploader"-status is certainly a good way to weed out some of the worse stuff.
This version of slengpung is actually pretty good! Good work T-101! Is it too much to ask for code that makes the pictures scale according to the screen resolution...?
