AI art in compos
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Now for the interesting question; can AI art be copyrighted? Copyright law applies only to humans right? Prompts should be copyrightable.
Australia and South Africa have clearly seen the light.
@farfar: Do I understand this article correct that the problem is that AI art cannot be copyright as an artwork created BY the AI because the AI isn't human?
Because this won't exclude copyrighting AI art to a human who created it using an AI.
Because this won't exclude copyrighting AI art to a human who created it using an AI.
@farfar: Oh, I misunderstood the article. The problem is that Thaler tried to copyright the work he received by his AI as an commissioned work.
But I'm surprised that this is not possible because an AI is a piece of code. And when I code a software that generates images on a computer this result CAN be copyrighted AFAIK.
But I'm surprised that this is not possible because an AI is a piece of code. And when I code a software that generates images on a computer this result CAN be copyrighted AFAIK.
Well Like I already wrote - first comes a new tech - and then the regulations. So - I think it is just a matter of time. ai-art-protest-disney-characters-mickey-mouse
And if that not enough - not later than that moment where music can be generated as excessive as the images already - the music industry will turn up.
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I think this is rather a amazing actually. It also makes a lot of sense right? There are many people in search of good prompts and a lot of non-technical, non-creative people who would like to get certain results from AI, so having a marketplace to sell & buy prompts makes a lot of sense.
who needs promptbase when you can just ask chatgpt to write it for you? :D
.. trained on scraped prompts from promptbase!
they pretend to not know each other!
AI playing stupid is tediously obvious.
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And on the tech side, while these AI models are gigantic multigigabyte in size, maybe if we have AI in 64k intros like tomkh suggests, and if they evolve into a rich 64k AI scene that can produce amazing things from tiny models, that would be an amazing way to show them (academia + industry), yet again, "how it's done".
15ish years ago, I predicted something like this to happen, as the next iteration of 64k intros after the "coder creates tool, artist uses tool" era. So far I've been disappointed...
That era has ended? Sad face .. :/
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That era has ended? Sad face .. :/
Well, evidently not. :)
That approach still delivers increasingly amazing 64k intros, and that is all well and good.
My prediction was (and still is) that eventually, we will start collaborating with AIs to produce content that no artist could think up (let alone create) on their own.
The reason that these AI advances come to images and text first is that these are well-understood, mainstream media that a lot of effort has been put into generating. There is nothing in principle stopping an AI from producing demos as well. It's just a more complex medium and therefore more difficult, and there isn't (yet?) a huge research effort behind it. We may need the help of some AIs to get there. ;)
I suppose that'd be a logical step after online-only parties - if you don't need to meet people, you don't need to involve them in demomaking either.
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who needs promptbase when you can just ask chatgpt to write it for you? :
no joke. a fellow demoscener who is into ai stuff and code some stuff around this topic, did an set up an ai learned programm for prompts on prompts that are already out there and uses this as random input for stable diffusion. so prompts are just one thing: lame !
xzibit would be proud
Human art disqualified for looking too much like AI, and it's not even a compo: https://www.thetechdeviant.com/2023/01/06/artist-banned-told-to-find-a-different-style-since-his-style-is-too-similar-to-ai-made-art/
dear sceners,
After 14 years working with my old computer
I have hands on a modern one.
The last 2 days I’ve been experimenting with
sd and it is crazy what is possible.
on its own, however, it is not satisfactory for me
Ok, it is cool to see how my own work would look
Like when another artist would have done it, but
I will go back now and explore other things with it:
These two things came up to my mind:
Since I’ve been learning to make music for a while now
I´ll test the following:
• Make a beat - turn this into a graphical version of it
(I think its called spectrogram)
Then put this through stable diffusion - make it sound / look
Like Dali :) and then mix it here and there with photoshop
With content aware fill - with the original one - and then back to audio - lets see
• Making a 3D Model in Zbrush - create a low poly version
And a displacement map from the hires version - and then
I´ll try what it will look like when this displacement map will
Be sent through sd on the resulting geometry later. unfortunately it is not 16bit atm
I think sd is maybe a door for people that have no idea about art
And play with it. And maybe some people will be wanting more
And pulling out a painting program, a sculpting tool etc. and
do something on their own. We will see what this tech will bring up
- and what will be destroyed / or how it will change.
Ps: the approach of the zenta party: reverse engineering a given
Image is a cool idea.
Lets see,
Cu, love
Cosmic
After 14 years working with my old computer
I have hands on a modern one.
The last 2 days I’ve been experimenting with
sd and it is crazy what is possible.
on its own, however, it is not satisfactory for me
Ok, it is cool to see how my own work would look
Like when another artist would have done it, but
I will go back now and explore other things with it:
These two things came up to my mind:
Since I’ve been learning to make music for a while now
I´ll test the following:
• Make a beat - turn this into a graphical version of it
(I think its called spectrogram)
Then put this through stable diffusion - make it sound / look
Like Dali :) and then mix it here and there with photoshop
With content aware fill - with the original one - and then back to audio - lets see
• Making a 3D Model in Zbrush - create a low poly version
And a displacement map from the hires version - and then
I´ll try what it will look like when this displacement map will
Be sent through sd on the resulting geometry later. unfortunately it is not 16bit atm
I think sd is maybe a door for people that have no idea about art
And play with it. And maybe some people will be wanting more
And pulling out a painting program, a sculpting tool etc. and
do something on their own. We will see what this tech will bring up
- and what will be destroyed / or how it will change.
Ps: the approach of the zenta party: reverse engineering a given
Image is a cool idea.
Lets see,
Cu, love
Cosmic
erm - I mean: atm 32bit exr for a proper displacement map.
and what I mean: maybe some people learn with these tools
how good images are composed - in terms of flow, composition, rhytm etc.
and what I mean: maybe some people learn with these tools
how good images are composed - in terms of flow, composition, rhytm etc.
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Human art disqualified for looking too much like AI, and it's not even a compo: https://www.thetechdeviant.com/2023/01/06/artist-banned-told-to-find-a-different-style-since-his-style-is-too-similar-to-ai-made-art/
In this example the AI-art ist not the problem but the dumb Mod, because in the near future AI can copy every type of art and then he has to ban every member of his subreddit.
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Quote:Human art disqualified for looking too much like AI, and it's not even a compo: https://www.thetechdeviant.com/2023/01/06/artist-banned-told-to-find-a-different-style-since-his-style-is-too-similar-to-ai-made-art/
In this example the AI-art ist not the problem but the dumb Mod, because in the near future AI can copy every type of art and then he has to ban every member of his subreddit.
And now take that further and do you still enjoy the AI...
Can someone reccommend a book that starts off with the fundamentals of Machine Learning and then proceeds on to touch on the subjects that enables f.ex Stable Diffusion, DLSS and Super Resolution?
There are probably lots of online resources that could be strung together, but it's a big topic so perhaps starting off with a good old 500 page book would be a good idea :)
There are probably lots of online resources that could be strung together, but it's a big topic so perhaps starting off with a good old 500 page book would be a good idea :)
So many "jobs" have been "taken" over the history by new things appearing. There's nothing new here.
Why should AI not be permitted in compos, but high level languages or even whole 3D engines be OK? Why should music with prerecorded samples be allowed? Or demos streaming the music from a compressed audio file? The reasons to not allow AI art in prods clash with the reasons to allow many other things in other areas.
I'm sorry, but "but I had to spend so many time learning to do this and now everyone can do something similar with no effort" is not a valid argument for anything. Just ask coders about that.
Why should AI not be permitted in compos, but high level languages or even whole 3D engines be OK? Why should music with prerecorded samples be allowed? Or demos streaming the music from a compressed audio file? The reasons to not allow AI art in prods clash with the reasons to allow many other things in other areas.
I'm sorry, but "but I had to spend so many time learning to do this and now everyone can do something similar with no effort" is not a valid argument for anything. Just ask coders about that.
https://www.deeplearningbook.org/ is a great textbook, IMHO.