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So, how dead is it?

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I don't think that the success of Shadertoy has anything to do with toxicity at all. Even over there there's people with questionable communication skills going at each other.

Shadertoy is entirely focused on editing shaders and sharing source code, pouet does not do any of this. The social network component of Shadertoy is also more focused on the source code (you can fork, the comments are often source feedback or golf)

The only place on pouet that has comparable dynamics is the ultra-small sizecoding scene (where the source is easily available by disassembling)

Pouet and Shadertoy are very different kinds of platforms with very different scope imo.
added on the 2022-11-21 09:26:32 by NR4 NR4
Pouet rulez! I never saw what was good about Demozoo, anyway.
added on the 2022-11-21 09:32:14 by Foebane72 Foebane72
I should add: I would absolutely love to see the scene starting to focus more on sharing source & transferring [coding] knowledge, instead of focusing on artistic feedback. I know this is somewhat difficult because of the 'rivalry'/tech race mindset from the past, but it's also a thing with "there's no platform that allows to share code & comments on it".
added on the 2022-11-21 09:35:02 by NR4 NR4
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Pouet rulez! I never saw what was good about Demozoo, anyway.


maybe it's time to educate yourself then.
added on the 2022-11-21 09:51:20 by farfar farfar
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maybe it's time to educate yourself then.


If Pouet.net was going to be shut down, then maybe I'd have to. But many, many prods don't have Demozoo entries yet, so why bother?

Even concerning Amiga demos, I'd go to Kestra Bitworld first before Demozoo!
added on the 2022-11-21 09:56:36 by Foebane72 Foebane72
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But many, many prods don't have Demozoo entries yet, so why bother?


Literally zero graphics and music prods have entries in Pouet, but can be found in Demozoo. So what was was point again?
added on the 2022-11-21 10:41:55 by T-101 T-101
well, few people comment prods on demozoo. that's why I'm here instead :)
added on the 2022-11-21 11:00:23 by NR4 NR4
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I would absolutely love to see the scene starting to focus more on sharing source & transferring [coding] knowledge, instead of focusing on artistic feedback.


Why are you interested in the scene then?
because we need even more releases with coder colors!!!
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I should add: I would absolutely love to see the scene starting to focus more on sharing source & transferring [coding] knowledge, instead of focusing on artistic feedback. I know this is somewhat difficult because of the 'rivalry'/tech race mindset from the past, but it's also a thing with "there's no platform that allows to share code & comments on it".
We used to have bonus packs included in the zip files of the individual Hugi issues which contained source code. The coding-related articles from Hugi can be found here: https://hugi.scene.org/online/coding/
added on the 2022-11-21 13:36:26 by Adok Adok
@adok: that's a good point, I'll start at some point to include source code into my release archives as well. And add GitHub links consistently :)
added on the 2022-11-21 14:17:15 by NR4 NR4
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Why are you interested in the scene then?


* the scene is a really nice social concept. Many sceners are really good friends. Also there is a mutual respect and common ground because of the shared interest between all sceners.
* Beer & Code is my thing.
* I love the competitive aspect of demoparties.
* I like to get feedback on stuff I make.
* Here is an audience for showing off my math skills.
added on the 2022-11-21 14:21:54 by NR4 NR4
We might have misunderstood each other btw - I was not claiming that I want less feedback on aesthetics. I was suggesting that more feedback on code would be a good thing, as we have lots of insanely skilled coders here
added on the 2022-11-21 14:23:46 by NR4 NR4
I have no comeback your honor.
I don't think pouet has more toxicity than any other platform (see Twitter). In fact, it may be less than average.

You can surely thumb down the production... but I actually think the bigger problem is too little comments or simply lack of interest, too small user-base / audience. The truly negative non-constructive comments are quite rare.

As for pouet bbs, well, it's definitely not the safest place out there. It is a go-to place for cheap thrills. But isn't it how it always been? I was not here from the begining, but I've heard stories about legendary pouet dramas in the past that were order of magnitude more dramatic than anything today.
added on the 2022-11-21 23:05:38 by tomkh tomkh
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I've heard stories about legendary pouet dramas in the past that were order of magnitude more dramatic than anything today.


As a former* dramaqueen i can tell you that "whining" and "2nd hand embarrassment" have sure been invented here... ^.^

The good thing about the pouet bbs is, that nothing gets deleted and everyone is able to check if someone evolved over the years or stays idiot.

Im not sure about myself, but i guess i am (a bit) less idiot than i was back in the days *LOL*



*still dramaoriented and willing to participate, dont worry. ^.^
added on the 2022-11-22 07:40:35 by _docd _docd
ufff
added on the 2022-11-22 09:21:53 by arm1n arm1n
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everyone is able to check if someone evolved over the years or stays idiot.
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Don't you hate stumbling upon your old prod comments? I sure do.
"thumbs up omfg roulz"
I feel like that with comments I made two weeks ago
added on the 2022-11-22 11:14:22 by farfar farfar
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Don't you hate stumbling upon your old prod comments? I sure do.
"thumbs up omfg roulz"

hahaha, definitely! I made so many cringy comments on farbrausch prods 20 years ago, when I was a teenager still and my handle was venomsoup 🙈
added on the 2022-11-22 12:29:47 by v3nom v3nom
yeah that could be interesting if we could come back 20 years after and just change your thumbs: I was a fanboy but truly, with time, I don't think it deserved my thumb at all.
All Top-Ten prods of all time are more than 13 years old,
some of the highest ranked prods are even 20 years old!

so is the scene dead?
as dead as your understanding of statistics!
Pouet just is biased towards old farts.
added on the 2022-11-23 09:28:26 by spkr spkr

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