pouët.net

Magic, right circumstances for me visiting Revision:
- I have a demo finished
- People generally healthy and in good mood, which is not the case while a "pandemic" is being proclaimed by the WHO
- Party not demanding any certificate or Id
I think it's generally a good idea to be well informed about health issues, especially if they affect you personally.

As long as you don't believe that we have an actual pandemic there's no further reason to discuss anything with you.

dfox: Of course we have a pandemic, because the current criteria for having a pandemic is that the WHO decrees a pandemic. This is the case.

He's a skeptic, you know?

bifat's latest comment wasn't scepticism of anything, if not scepticism of reasoning in declaring what is actually a pandemic since some point in 2020.

bifat: Not meant in a negative way, but there simply is no way anyone can help you here.

Even if there will be parties not requiring vaccination, they will at the minimum require testing, which involves showing someone a document. If you reject showing someone documents, it's really lost hope. You will most likely have to say good-bye to going to demoparties for a long time.

Again, I do mean this in a positive way and I am not trying to insult you: The most pragmatic thing to do here would be going to a good neurologist and/or therapy to work on your paranoia. This will be work, and most likely won't be pretty, but to me it occurs that would be the fastest route to being able to go to parties again.

A lot of people in this thread for a change didn't just try to beat people with the clue stick (which is great), but the problem you have is nothing that any demoparty organizer could cover, even if they wanted.

I'm totally aware of that, at least when it comes to bigger parties.
And I have a lot of options.

Thanks for your health tips and compassion, but your remote diagnosis might not be totally accurate. Same with the remote diagnosis of NPD somewhere else. I'd be glad if people would simply read what I write and a bit less project their fantasies on it. :-)

Alice: "You're paranoid, seek help"
Bob: "I'm not paranoid, that's what THEY want you to think!"

Who should then if not WHO?

The WHO seems fine, that what's it for, it's only a bit unfortunate that there are no strict criteria anymore, it's more like a decision now. With this comes abtriariness. There have been more rigid criteria before, but they were in place mostly with regard to influenza. I have noticed - to their benefit! - that the WHO and governments are not always entirely in agreement. But in absence of criteria, the end of the pandemic might become a clusterfuck of epic proportions in its own right.

The WHO is more than fine. I would argue Pinball Wizard is one of the defining songs of a generation, I wouldn't discount that as merely "fine".

Then do parties where you do not have to do testing, i can not imagine all areas of Europe will be as strict as some mentions here (mandatory vaccines and daily testing does not sound like a party for me..).

Quoting this in case people missed how important this point is.

I agree with sagacity. People tend to forget the who... all they care about is queen. Fuck that.

@Bifat it looks like, looking at your criteria, you wont be visiting a party in 2021 and 2022 atleast. Hopefully an online audiance will do than to release your new demo.

bifat needs to code even cooler effects to be let to demoparties without vaccination :D

We are a group, and it's entirely possible that we are going to release it any party, even if I don't get inside.

@Bifat nice to read you now make it a group decision. The part "even if i dont get inside" I dont understand though. You wrote down criteria to go to a party. They are not there for time being. (e.g. proof) You would still try to go inside anyway?

I would have expected you to have written "even if i wont visit the party"

magic: May I kindly remind you of the first post of this thread. Of course I'd be waiting outside. :-)

Ah check :) Any official reaction from the Deadline organizers already on an outside bigscreen and area ?

Unvaccinatembly, real party is on the rocks? :D

You mean like...a screen on a balcony while watchin the stream, which is kinda service enough imho?

why is this not residue yet

It appears that something got lost in translation there.

But then pretty much almost everything that can be said about this topic has been said by now.

However, it may cause more harm than good to have any official concessions.

I'd be glad if there'll be no weird outdoors security perimeter, nor policing the leper camp in the backyard. Basically same outside setup as 2019 and earlier would be fine enough. (Speaking as a fully cross-vaxxed person here.)

Comes with disclaimer: No herd immunity raves, please
Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine