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it does solve your own local problem though.

are adds allowed in scene demos?

cola seems to work well with the demoscene!
i remember a splendid coca_cola_can-texture_rotator in some amiga-demo, just cant remember group nor name right now!

pepsi -> pure metal coders - Alpha Omega II
...not what i meant, but again cola!
few seconds in btw.

RAF - commercial break
...still not what i meant, but again cola!
lol, the video will start at 13:37 :D

Fraxion likes coca cola aswell
...still not what i meant, but again cola!
this random coca cola thread here starts to make fun! ;)

It's not Coca Cola, but how about this?

Xayax - cola-rotator on VCS2600
...still not the rotator i meant, but again rotating cola!

It doesn't. Not even remotely.

My problem is not seeing adds on demos I watch. I already have an ad-blocker that mostly makes me unaware of those. And I often try to watch them in real-time anyway (expect heavy stuff like Fairlight's or Cocoon's).
My problem is knowing that content we create gets marred with ads, ruining a significant part of the public's experience.

We don't pour countless hours of work making demos just so people end up seeing them with a yogurt advertisement on top.

There's always DMCA takedowns.

So your problem is moral outrage?

gargaj:

Personally I feel that taking somebody else's work and monetising it is wrong - I would almost add: "obviously". I do care, but I haven't actually encountered the problem very much.

Is it actually so wide spread a problem?

Less so ever since the first thread; when I opened the first thread, I found at least 3-4 channels that ran ads.

The funniest parts were the ragefits the channel owners threw when you kindly asked them to remove the ads.

@hardy: maybe it wasn't rotating. Maybe you are thinking of McIntro?

I'm really grateful when someone publishes a quality capture of one of my prods as I'm not good with video myself and even if I was I don't think I'd be up for the extra work.
In that sense I haven't minded if a good youtube-capper (e.g. someone who does good captures and corrects errors when made aware of them) got a tiny bit of monetization - mainly because the amount of money they get from my puny Amiga stuff can't possibly be very much. It's a bit like me buying them a beer as a thank you.
However, if that now translates into unskippable ads and annoying overlays that's really getting in the way of the demo watching experience then it becomes a different thing and I might actually want to veto some of it. Perhaps I'll have to talk some guys into accepting real-life beers instead of internetcoins. :-S

Oh, as for all those idiots who do shit captures with encoding errors, compression artifacts, broken sync, incorrect framerates and custom self-branded "intro screens" and overlays they can go fuck themselves.
(More suited for that other thread about link types, but if someone *really* wants to go on a clean-up spree they should kill all "Amigaland" youtube links).


Nah, I think I remember the one he's talking about. It was a copper-twister-style effect combined with some bpl / sprite overlays that gave a bit of dithered depth-shading on the distorted coke can. (I think I've also seen a version with 3 cans side-by-side. Not sure if that was the same prod).
My brain insists that it was a polish mid-90s prod but that might be wrong. (If it had been a beer can instead then Freezers would've been my first guess :).

That is _not_ a problem. There is nothing wrong with being morally outraged at your own product being hijacked for someone else's benefit or with being morally outraged at the slowly creeping erosion of personal IP rights by indifferent suits concerned only with share prices. I could wish that more would object to it.

oops, it could be it was one of the most-known/loved c64-demos, although i still think i saw this in an amiga-prod before:
Oxyron & Crest - Deus Ex Machina -> Coke Rotator

Gotta say, Hardy's "Coke Can" posts are the only ones worth seeing in this thread. By a large margin.

well, i just had found a way to kkapture my Intros again finally (which i couldn´t since i switched to DirectX11) thanks to another thread here...
...but then noname posted this thread and so i am still in reconsidering-phase...
...i guess i don´t want my prods on youtube with ads on top of my graphix! ;)

but yeah, i think this thread doesn´t make too much sense sadly, as there´s very little we can do about it except asking these channel-owners to remove ads or asking google to implement a switch for those new on-top-banners to be shown or not and then ask the channel-owners again to switch it off!

There´s a solution, though:
Capture your prods yourself, upload them to your own channel and keep ads turned off.

I don´t know much about the new youtube-rules, haven´t read them up yet, but i hope those banners can be turned off at all?!!

fizzer: ♥ you, too! :)

oh,well, didn´t need to read, noname posted a vid! ;)

so as long as you have skipable_ads turned on for your channel, unskippables (like these banners) are turned on automatically aswell.

should get more than a hard task to get the channel owners to turn off ads for their whole channel! ;)

but atleast we can still have ad-free own channels where we can upload our own prods then!

*backToKkapturing*

You know, you could create a list of these demos which feature coke cans. That would be cool.