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So,

I've been there myself bigtime. Pointing out everything I dislike about a production. Sometimes productively. Sometimes engaged in dickmode, being absolutely disrespectful. Because I was annoyed. About people staying beneath their possibilities. Or simply not understanding why the fuck a production is the way it simply is.

Until I figured out, that my remarks say more about me than those who made a production. Very often I was just sad I didn't contribute to anything in a compo. Alongside with being angry about myself for not doing something. Or jealous in a way that I talked myself into "why this sucks".

Or I simply expected someone to give me a novel experience to be happy about it. Which, if it didn't happen, left my inner monkey frustrated cause he didn't get a banana this time. At the bottom line - my comments said more about me being unsatisfied with my life. Or maybe just an asshole that needed to vent air somewhere.

Now, I can't go back and slap myself in the face yelling "get your own shit together man!". I'm not deeply sorry either. Cause I was behaving to the best of my abilities. Luckily it didn't happen that often. What I regret was being unable to take good care of myself. And see the progress in things. As well as the context in which something was made. And just shut the fuck up and value it.

I'd like you to let this sink in for a moment before you write some non-constructive crap under the free work of someone else next time. Keep in mind: it might reveal more about you outsourcing your *whatever it is* than those you critique.

My 2 cents.
Ronny

Word. Nicely written Ronny!

are u gonna release something urself?

Make a 64k about it.

Or maybe the prod is just crap.

@gargaj: so, if you give a thumb down to a crap release made by several people, does that mean that you don't want to see anything from them ever again? because, that would be a message.

Thank you guys!

Creonix,

what do you mean? Is there a catch if I say "yes" now? :)

bonefish: Of course not, why would you even think that?

Gargaj,

ever gave it a shot that people could get you that way?

Of course, but are we talking about thumb downs or negative comments? Negative comments can be perfectly constructive and civilized.

FWIW, I prefer negative comments on my productions to positive ones, because those are what you learn from. Thumb downs hurt sometimes but you can't please everyone so why care if someone on Pouet doesn't like it?

Yes, they can. But I was talking about the dickmode commentry that isn't.

And it's not about a thumb down either.

because i don't support the thumbing down (see my "otherstats"). i really believe that it's demotivating (i recall my first) ).

if something is not to my taste, there's piggy. if i really don't like it, i skip it - it's obvious that prods with less comments are of a lower quality, no need to put the nails in the coffin.

The beginning of your initial post makes it sound like even "Pointing out everything I dislike about a production. Sometimes productively." is something you regret doing. (Oh the irony, now I'm making a negative comment about your post about negative comments.)

Nah ;)
I just thought u realized that u frustrated because u release nothing so u may put some of ur work now. So I can advice u by occasion to do it even if you thinik ur work is worse than others.

"can't please people all the time and yesterday those people were at my show"

My intention was drawing a line between something that feasible and something that isn't. As far as I can see some people already got the point. Maybe be I wasn't precise enough so I will gladly rephrase if necessary.

be nice to others and maybe they will be nice to you :D

I always try to remember how terrible it felt to both receive negative comments and literal death threats for making shitty demos, and think twice before being too negative about it. Usually that way I'm at least in a state of mood of saying something a lot more constructive than destructive.

Gargaj,

btw, my comment above was addressed at you.

But why are you calling me on this?

Because you started the thread and I wasn't sure what you were getting at :)

Is it clear now?