a demoparty in New York City: synchroNY
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SynchroNY
a new demoparty in New York City
January 8-10, 2016
137 W 14th St, New York, NY
Keynote speaker: Ken Perlin
In addition to the usual competitions, this will be the first party to have a MiNT category
website: http://synchrony.nyc/
Please stand by for the modern PC invite; a Commodore one has already been released.
SynchroNY
a new demoparty in New York City
January 8-10, 2016
137 W 14th St, New York, NY
Keynote speaker: Ken Perlin
In addition to the usual competitions, this will be the first party to have a MiNT category
website: http://synchrony.nyc/
Please stand by for the modern PC invite; a Commodore one has already been released.
New demo for Commodore One? Nice!
That's so cool!
Social media:
https://twitter.com/syncnyc
https://www.facebook.com/events/483153028539976/
Also posted to demoparty.net, waiting around for the URL.
And yes, Pouet's not-nemesis, Demozoo. (:
https://twitter.com/syncnyc
https://www.facebook.com/events/483153028539976/
Also posted to demoparty.net, waiting around for the URL.
And yes, Pouet's not-nemesis, Demozoo. (:
Actually I might be able to make it, think my schedule will be a bit freer around then. :) Hopefully tickets to New York in January will be cheap.
YAYYYYYY!!!!
east coast rulz.
east coast rulz.
The MINT category will actually be for the first demos ever written for particular platforms - old school and obscure, perhaps, or new and obscure, or things that people didn't realize could be programmed.
We'll also have a NANO (256 byte) category to encourage small-scale exploration of computers old and new.
And, all the usual suspects as well ... and talks ... and performances ... and screenings ... and time for socializing, collaboration, working on party demos, and seeking advice on longer-term projects.
The venue (Babycastles) is not huge, but it will support a demoparty atmosphere very well.
We'll also have a NANO (256 byte) category to encourage small-scale exploration of computers old and new.
And, all the usual suspects as well ... and talks ... and performances ... and screenings ... and time for socializing, collaboration, working on party demos, and seeking advice on longer-term projects.
The venue (Babycastles) is not huge, but it will support a demoparty atmosphere very well.
And yes, tickets to NYC in January should be very cheap - that was part of the idea we had in scheduling the party.
Any limitations about 256b ?
I honestly aleays wanted to visit NY. Damn, have to check travelprices :S
Ken Perlin! Bring da noise!
An entry in the NANO category just has to be a demo with a file size of 256b or less; it can be for any system.
any system? msdos or another else?
Is there going to be a perlin noise procedural graphics compo with ken as the judge?
metoikos, are you organizing this?
I have a practical question about the MINT category:
How can you be sure a demo is actually the first on a platform?
Because I can think of two problems here:
1) You made a demo which you thought was MINT because you couldn't find anything for the platform. But then someone pulls some obscure rabbit out of the hat, and your demo gets disqualified.
2) When is a demo a demo? Most platforms will have some kind of demonstration of graphics and/or music made for them. But when does it count as a 'demo' in the demoscene sense, and when doesn't it? I'm thinking of edge-cases such as Dancing Demon.
So I guess in other words:
Is there a way to get a 'clean bill of health' for a MINT entry? That is, you submit your idea for a platform to the organizers ahead of time, and they will ok it, and you can't get disqualified later at the party even if something does turn up in the meantime.
How can you be sure a demo is actually the first on a platform?
Because I can think of two problems here:
1) You made a demo which you thought was MINT because you couldn't find anything for the platform. But then someone pulls some obscure rabbit out of the hat, and your demo gets disqualified.
2) When is a demo a demo? Most platforms will have some kind of demonstration of graphics and/or music made for them. But when does it count as a 'demo' in the demoscene sense, and when doesn't it? I'm thinking of edge-cases such as Dancing Demon.
So I guess in other words:
Is there a way to get a 'clean bill of health' for a MINT entry? That is, you submit your idea for a platform to the organizers ahead of time, and they will ok it, and you can't get disqualified later at the party even if something does turn up in the meantime.
The party should be called: "SynchroNYcity"
Cool line up!
Cool line up!
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As for NANO, yes, any system.
So custom FPGA ROM doesn't count into the file size? :)
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So custom FPGA ROM doesn't count into the file size? :)
Just watch http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65500 then, it's already been done.
heh.
Yay, my first non-European demoparty. See you there! :)
These are, truly, some questions about both NANO and MINT. I hope we will clear these up when the rules are posted.
Nothing related to size/custom ROMs would get your NANO submission kicked out of the compos, though; if there was extra code in there beyond 256b the submission would just be sent off to Wild, Old School, or Demo. I'll say now, though, that I do think code you write and put in ROM counts as code. Otherwise I could make a 0b C64 demo by replacing the KERNAL and BASIC ROMs, but's better understood as a 16kb demo, isn't it?
It's similar with MINT; your demo would be included even if you did get scooped by someone who made some just-discovered demo back in 1998. In the worst case, your demo just wouldn't go into the MINT category, but somewhere else. It would make sense to certify the minty freshness of platforms beforehand, though, and we will do that if that's feasible.
In these and other cases, we'll do our best to set rules that will make for a fun party and will let appropriate productions in these categories.
As for this question by Scali:
2) When is a demo a demo? Most platforms will have some kind of demonstration of graphics and/or music made for them. But when does it count as a 'demo' in the demoscene sense, and when doesn't it?
I'm an interesting person to ask about this because my productions usually don't look much like demos (or standard demos, at least). Generally an entry seems fine if it's a computer program that produces audiovisual effects in real-time; isn't that pretty much a demo, and valid for a compos? Whether or not people at the party *like* the demo is another question, of course.
Nothing related to size/custom ROMs would get your NANO submission kicked out of the compos, though; if there was extra code in there beyond 256b the submission would just be sent off to Wild, Old School, or Demo. I'll say now, though, that I do think code you write and put in ROM counts as code. Otherwise I could make a 0b C64 demo by replacing the KERNAL and BASIC ROMs, but's better understood as a 16kb demo, isn't it?
It's similar with MINT; your demo would be included even if you did get scooped by someone who made some just-discovered demo back in 1998. In the worst case, your demo just wouldn't go into the MINT category, but somewhere else. It would make sense to certify the minty freshness of platforms beforehand, though, and we will do that if that's feasible.
In these and other cases, we'll do our best to set rules that will make for a fun party and will let appropriate productions in these categories.
As for this question by Scali:
2) When is a demo a demo? Most platforms will have some kind of demonstration of graphics and/or music made for them. But when does it count as a 'demo' in the demoscene sense, and when doesn't it?
I'm an interesting person to ask about this because my productions usually don't look much like demos (or standard demos, at least). Generally an entry seems fine if it's a computer program that produces audiovisual effects in real-time; isn't that pretty much a demo, and valid for a compos? Whether or not people at the party *like* the demo is another question, of course.
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As for this question by Scali:
2) When is a demo a demo? Most platforms will have some kind of demonstration of graphics and/or music made for them. But when does it count as a 'demo' in the demoscene sense, and when doesn't it?
I'm an interesting person to ask about this because my productions usually don't look much like demos (or standard demos, at least). Generally an entry seems fine if it's a computer program that produces audiovisual effects in real-time; isn't that pretty much a demo, and valid for a compos? Whether or not people at the party *like* the demo is another question, of course.
I was thinking about it from the other angle:
For MINT, you have to be the first demo. So you must somehow prove that there have not been any demos on that platform yet. Which depends a lot on how broad your definition of 'demo' is.