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oh yeah I totally forgot about that one.
yes like that, maybe a tad better linked and easier to find :)

as a newb id probably google for something like this or this

curio was never aimed to be "best" because look what happens if you claim so. but "interesting", yeah, i'd go with that.

maybe the new awards should just nominate the shit half to balance things out?

or 'disqualify' productions with 2 or more sub-topic (gfx/code/music/etc) nominations and pool those in the 'best demo', 'best 4k' etc as clearly they got the overall package done right.

Thanks for all the support guys, we will do our best to make it the best award show ever. Here are some teasers for the jury:

- An esteemed researcher from a top 200-ranked university who knows his stuff
- Several TBC members
- A musician who really hates guitars (except this track by Sabaton, he really loves that: linky )
- The brother of the well-known Dj Fromage
- A guy from TBL*
- Someone who really likes 4ks

* Admittedly our sources for this information are some drunk polish Amiga dudes at Breakpoint, but you know how Mulder says: I want to believe.

hahahahaha

What you should take away from nic0's post: these awards have been underway since Breakpoint.

you're going quite Adokky lately here and on teh facebooks with your petty science projects, boy! ;)

I am not an esteemed researcher OR know my stuff :(

so it's probably not a musician.

So you can't be a musician if you don't like guitars?

i don't like dwarfs, so i can't be his mom!

Can't be his mom, or can't be with his mom? There's a difference!

nah, not really

You should however love 303s.

I've seen this before. Insane exaggerations to refute a mere suggestion. Tickets aren't even 100e now. You're saying that I suggest we quadruple or sextuple entry fees. Just wondering where wildly mad, exaggerated notions like these come from.

For someone traveling to a medium sized or large party (this party will usually be abroad), travel costs will be between 150e (for a 20 hour car, bus or train ride) and 400e+ (by air, except for those lucky few who can find some 200e last minute tickets). When abroad some of the travelers would like to not sleep in the party hall, add another 100e+ for accomodations.

I'm simply suggesting another 10e will make no difference for visitors to these parties - or to parties in your own country where travel costs are much less. To visitors who don't mind spending 200e+ on getting there and 10e more for the party prizes and costs is out of the question I have nothing to say.

And this would then give, say, 1000-5000e more for attractive first prizes in the demo compo, and also of course in the music and graphics compos etc. according to the orgas' whim. For this to work as a prestigious attraction the prizes must be announced before the party is booked solid.

Sounds good nic0, especially for the 4ks - not sure about the guitar hating musician though, I really want amusic to get some price(s) :)

Once again, get a good graphician like offwhite, elend, kenet, h2o or prince to do some judging on the handdrawn graphics - always feel that part of the scene is a bit left out. Maybe get cons in the boat as well, if he finds the time he sure might be the one who has seen most of the graphics released at parties :)

Also I have nothing against FLT, ASD and other big groups ruling the bigger prices - if I only put two weeks of effort into a prod and navis months - he sure should win. However it might be neat to have upcomer awards for the same categories, so horology would get a price for the best upcoming demo. This sure still feels like a special award, but hey at least there's more rewards than only getting the newcomer price (which is cool, but there's plenty of groups that deserve it).

All in all, I really like the idea of having new scene.org awards - even if the prices are just a sheet of paper, they feel damn good to receive - all the fucking work is justified by someone noticing it :)

Lemme ask you this then - 'cos we sortof accosted nic0 about this on IRC.

See, he wrote:

So essentially, what's the logic behind revealing the categories, the nominees AND the winners all at the same event? Wouldn't it give extra incentive for nominees to attend if they would know they might win?

the question you should be asking is, WOULD it give an incentive to attend? :)

depends.. did i win something?

I thought it was somewhat clear from my blatant idiocy that we were pulling your legs and not really doing any kind of cool awards ceremony celebrating skill in the demoscene or indeed achievement :) We do thank you for being such good sports about it though, when we came up with the idea of hyping TRSAC and our silliness in this way, we kinda imagined there would be a bus full of elite demosceners on the way to our doors. Maybe thats what the Saufbus is for, come to think of it.... oh well :)

I mean - the list of jury members are clearly not in any position to judge skill or achievement - they are not wearing any pants, and one of them (me) keeps claiming that he doesn't "understand" C64 music compos and stuff like that. Clearly not people you'd want in charge of anything but arranging the best goddamned demoparty on Danish ground since little Svend and Lars decided to sit together in Svends room and play with their C64s back in 1983. That was not a metaphor - stop snickering.

So with that in mind, the DUB awards are our loving tribute to those who spread excitement, care and love at demopartys, who does some funny shit like falling into a fire at KG, who all drunkenly starts singing the Swedish National anthem on stage and gets people to join in, who creates an awesome production that might suck technically and artistically but just fit the exact mood at that moment.

That is way different from any kind of scene(.org) awards - they celebrate skill, achievement, care in production, creativity and hard work. We need that kind of awardshow in my opinion (and a lot of the other DUB guys might disagree, I have no idea about that), but thats not what we are doing. We are doing silly shit, celebrating silly shit. You could say that we celebrate people, not productions.

So with that - the jig is up, and we did not at any point plan to become the "rightful heir" to the scene.org awards. That was just a joke, done in poor taste, or perhaps done in perfect DUB taste. In the words of the greatest rapper that ever lived:

"I say that shit just clowning man, come on, how fucked up is you?"

I'd leave creating an awards show to take over from scene.org to people who creates real cool shit for the demoscene, who are less drunk, who are serious men and women of high moral fibre. I don't want to mention names here, but I often forget what I was saying when I started a sentence, so people like Gloom and Gargaj :) And probably lots of others, but shit you know its morning, and I am still naked.

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hahahahaha :D This kind of shit is EXACTLY why I keep coming back to TRSAC every year. nic0 for pres!