Need a Ride to Main-Demoparty!
category: parties [glöplog]
please dont forget that
pouet != scene && scene != pouet
also, that you're arguing on the internet.
and that trolls will be trolls, so you shouldn't feed them.
pouet != scene && scene != pouet
also, that you're arguing on the internet.
and that trolls will be trolls, so you shouldn't feed them.
but..i AM a troll myself ;) hahaha!
ps: ofcoz you are right! this is just pouet! its not the scene! but sceners did what i hate what happened so i am still in rage! (real sceners, not nonames posting in the pouet-bbs! also real sceners posted answers i disliked aswell here!)
just forget about this all, imma not release a single prod anymore, due to "sceners" having killed a scene-legend which deserved way better than that!
-> murderers! FUCK YOU!
ps: ofcoz you are right! this is just pouet! its not the scene! but sceners did what i hate what happened so i am still in rage! (real sceners, not nonames posting in the pouet-bbs! also real sceners posted answers i disliked aswell here!)
just forget about this all, imma not release a single prod anymore, due to "sceners" having killed a scene-legend which deserved way better than that!
-> murderers! FUCK YOU!
death by bubble ripping sounds quite pathetic though
titan was quite pathetic!
ok, honestly, my feelings:
i just brought you all back a long-not-seen-name: "Virgill" , he was kind enuff to deliver a soundtrack in neverEverBeforeUsed SoftSynthezizer named 4klang. he had 2 weeks and delivered, the intro even won just due to the music, as the visulas were shit in the initial party-Version, altho i made a final which i like myself atleast!
and what do others do? -> discredit a person known for being one of the 16 axis of the demoscene, by claiming he used some brush based on another ones work, the image itself being a preview of a logo only released in TRSIs internal channel on facebook, no1 knows how it got into public at all! it was just a snapshot of work_in_progress! :( ...so, some1 leaked it from fb, reposted on fb and accused h2o of ripping! what followed was: one new thread here at pouet: showing a logo with bubbles, compared to a logo with bubbles from h2o, saying they are the same, so ripped, no more evidences! thats all? yes! enough for h2o to say sth alike "enuff, i dont have to give me that" (he never said so, its just what i guess he thought himself to conclude this: 20+ years of Demoscening are enuff, imma quit when accused of such stupidity, bungholes!)
i just brought you all back a long-not-seen-name: "Virgill" , he was kind enuff to deliver a soundtrack in neverEverBeforeUsed SoftSynthezizer named 4klang. he had 2 weeks and delivered, the intro even won just due to the music, as the visulas were shit in the initial party-Version, altho i made a final which i like myself atleast!
and what do others do? -> discredit a person known for being one of the 16 axis of the demoscene, by claiming he used some brush based on another ones work, the image itself being a preview of a logo only released in TRSIs internal channel on facebook, no1 knows how it got into public at all! it was just a snapshot of work_in_progress! :( ...so, some1 leaked it from fb, reposted on fb and accused h2o of ripping! what followed was: one new thread here at pouet: showing a logo with bubbles, compared to a logo with bubbles from h2o, saying they are the same, so ripped, no more evidences! thats all? yes! enough for h2o to say sth alike "enuff, i dont have to give me that" (he never said so, its just what i guess he thought himself to conclude this: 20+ years of Demoscening are enuff, imma quit when accused of such stupidity, bungholes!)
clarify time!
-he posted the logo with kenet's clonestamped stuff from a fairlight logo on it, public on facebook. nobody 'leaked it' but himself.
-when confronted he choses first to ignore and kill his facebook, to return later and kick the ppl who confronted him from facebook after a scene-legendary excuse of using scene-brushes.
-more artwork shows up with this time scene-bubbles ripped from another logo by kenet and me, a logo from +/- 2006 used on many of his other logos. its even in one of his pouet logo's here. deviance logos. etc.
and well no problem u standing up for him, because he still hasnt responded to me until this time, or kenet. A few embers i have spoken inside Trsi have heard the story and some even apologised to me and kenet. For him. Because he sure isnt saying anything to the ones involved about, it other than, oh lol i downloaded a scenebrush with your stuff on it lol, brb, deleting facebook ppl
I for sure dont call whole Trsi pathetic for one man's actions. U can say it to my face that im pathetic for trying to defend my own stuff. Thats fine to me. Im sure u can call Kenet pathetic too for trying to defend his stuff, we both have oldskool feelings toward this subject, u dont rip others sceners stuff, or atleast have the guts to come clean about it. So yeah, we are pathetic for sure.
But quite frankly, using this as an excuse to quit scene, is not pathetic. Its retarded, but ffs get your facts straight when u try to go all emo about it on Pouet.
-he posted the logo with kenet's clonestamped stuff from a fairlight logo on it, public on facebook. nobody 'leaked it' but himself.
-when confronted he choses first to ignore and kill his facebook, to return later and kick the ppl who confronted him from facebook after a scene-legendary excuse of using scene-brushes.
-more artwork shows up with this time scene-bubbles ripped from another logo by kenet and me, a logo from +/- 2006 used on many of his other logos. its even in one of his pouet logo's here. deviance logos. etc.
and well no problem u standing up for him, because he still hasnt responded to me until this time, or kenet. A few embers i have spoken inside Trsi have heard the story and some even apologised to me and kenet. For him. Because he sure isnt saying anything to the ones involved about, it other than, oh lol i downloaded a scenebrush with your stuff on it lol, brb, deleting facebook ppl
I for sure dont call whole Trsi pathetic for one man's actions. U can say it to my face that im pathetic for trying to defend my own stuff. Thats fine to me. Im sure u can call Kenet pathetic too for trying to defend his stuff, we both have oldskool feelings toward this subject, u dont rip others sceners stuff, or atleast have the guts to come clean about it. So yeah, we are pathetic for sure.
But quite frankly, using this as an excuse to quit scene, is not pathetic. Its retarded, but ffs get your facts straight when u try to go all emo about it on Pouet.
all og this is 2006++
i seem to know he was around in the early 90s already! did he steal then from you already, is it all he can do? rip bubbles and make own stuff outta it? is it really all what you have to say about your long-time-friend? a long-time-scener like yourself?
he´s going to leave the scene...forever! he´s leaving several groups by doing so, some he´s only providing, some he´s actually into the productions, many he´s pretty much organizing (by pushing the people to get it done!) and some by just leading! he even installed several NEW groups into all of our small bubble we call our scene -> example: Fresh Mindworkz! ...also we´ll lose the biggest and best french DemoParty so far-> Main! (to me this is the best Demoparty there is/was! i had the fun of my life both times i´ve been there!)
but yes, i am pathetic stating all of titan are pathetic! sorry for that! i got mislead by my hatred! i am sorry for that! SORRY!
i seem to know he was around in the early 90s already! did he steal then from you already, is it all he can do? rip bubbles and make own stuff outta it? is it really all what you have to say about your long-time-friend? a long-time-scener like yourself?
he´s going to leave the scene...forever! he´s leaving several groups by doing so, some he´s only providing, some he´s actually into the productions, many he´s pretty much organizing (by pushing the people to get it done!) and some by just leading! he even installed several NEW groups into all of our small bubble we call our scene -> example: Fresh Mindworkz! ...also we´ll lose the biggest and best french DemoParty so far-> Main! (to me this is the best Demoparty there is/was! i had the fun of my life both times i´ve been there!)
but yes, i am pathetic stating all of titan are pathetic! sorry for that! i got mislead by my hatred! i am sorry for that! SORRY!
lawl
calling some1 who never ripped and called rippers "lamers" for all of his life, there seems to be sth i dont get, this way you lose another demomaker! i wont be missed due to my classic trolling here, but be sure, go on like this and the scene emptys faster than you can think!
last demo by me will be released on 21.12.2012! (just before i put le bomb!)
last demo by me will be released on 21.12.2012! (just before i put le bomb!)
if you're sorry about saying stupid things then stop saying them in the first place. that's why people don't take you seriously anymore. and how can getting all emo about it on a virtual forum possibly make it better?
you hate people for being stupid, thats fine and dandy, do a fucktro about it. but please don't keep coming back for more bashing and emoness. doesnt help anyone.
and virgill was never gone.
you hate people for being stupid, thats fine and dandy, do a fucktro about it. but please don't keep coming back for more bashing and emoness. doesnt help anyone.
and virgill was never gone.
there was this once: Titan+TRSi - Lick It
what's even more retarded is that you're speaking for someone else who is very well equipped to speak for himself plus, a lesser mental fruitcake as you by a MILE. so if h2o really is your friend as you claim he is.. just STFU!
also, i hope you're drunk and just talking crap. otherwise, some therapist wouldn't hurt ;)
also, i hope you're drunk and just talking crap. otherwise, some therapist wouldn't hurt ;)
maali has the lead
wtf is going on
stijn: Hardy needs lift and is not getting one + Pouet.
Maali and Alien have leading.
Hardy: before making statements, ask to the opposite side if their version is the same as from the one being so called "offended".
About h2o, if he was a real human Man, with a heart, if he had any self indulgency and self esteem, self respect and respect towards people around himself, would have apologized, but not for the fact of making others upset, BUT FOR HAVING DONE A MISTAKE. Yes, he copy/pasted parts of existing logos, and for that you trash us. What's the fucking problem?
Anyone can ask for being excused. Anyone. But for that you have to recognize your mistake. He doesn't. This makes a fool of him, not us. So, step back, take in charge what concerns you, and stop being so fucking retarded when it comes to things you don't know about. And if you wanna leave, just do it, no need to have another melodrama around here from people who don't know half of the truth.
Now, if Titan is pathetic, okay, we love that, but we recognize our mistakes at least. And hey, that doesn't hurt, did you know about that?
Hardy: before making statements, ask to the opposite side if their version is the same as from the one being so called "offended".
About h2o, if he was a real human Man, with a heart, if he had any self indulgency and self esteem, self respect and respect towards people around himself, would have apologized, but not for the fact of making others upset, BUT FOR HAVING DONE A MISTAKE. Yes, he copy/pasted parts of existing logos, and for that you trash us. What's the fucking problem?
Anyone can ask for being excused. Anyone. But for that you have to recognize your mistake. He doesn't. This makes a fool of him, not us. So, step back, take in charge what concerns you, and stop being so fucking retarded when it comes to things you don't know about. And if you wanna leave, just do it, no need to have another melodrama around here from people who don't know half of the truth.
Now, if Titan is pathetic, okay, we love that, but we recognize our mistakes at least. And hey, that doesn't hurt, did you know about that?
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i hate ppl with no idea of what its about! i also hate ppl saying just "lol"! ;) and also ppl that are younger while direspectful!
Well, seems we have different concepts of respect.
Respect is something you have to earn - you don't get it by being older and flaming other sceners on pouet. Think about it.
Just in case you want others to respect you - you currently seem to be moving in the wrong direction - at the speed of light.
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Just in case you want others to respect you - you currently seem to be moving in the wrong direction - at the speed of light.
can you tell me, on mother's of jesus the flying twat sake, what does fairlight have to do in here, pretty please?
that's a good question. what DOES fairlight have to do in here?
i dont care about the respect issue. you bunch do graphics for peeps who crack games. so dont play the fucking ethics or copyright issue cos you all walk the very same thin line.
let's be human here: someone did a big boo-boo. big deal. someone found out. big boo-boo after all.. lots of people pointing at the big boo-boo. guy who did the big boo-boo feels bad but. it's logical you dont wanna make a total ass out of yourself, so, either you play around the big boo-boo or deny the big boo-boo. in the end. there'll be the big boo-boo.
now. do you feel happy, that you pointed the guy on his big boo-boo? does the guy need to feel bad cos of the big boo-boo? the consensual construct in all of this is that the guy wont make the big boo-boo again and the someones who found out dont give a damn or find the next big boo-boo. and. in the end, who fucking cares?
and talking about patronizing (hardy did)... you're all a bunch of cunts!
let's be human here: someone did a big boo-boo. big deal. someone found out. big boo-boo after all.. lots of people pointing at the big boo-boo. guy who did the big boo-boo feels bad but. it's logical you dont wanna make a total ass out of yourself, so, either you play around the big boo-boo or deny the big boo-boo. in the end. there'll be the big boo-boo.
now. do you feel happy, that you pointed the guy on his big boo-boo? does the guy need to feel bad cos of the big boo-boo? the consensual construct in all of this is that the guy wont make the big boo-boo again and the someones who found out dont give a damn or find the next big boo-boo. and. in the end, who fucking cares?
and talking about patronizing (hardy did)... you're all a bunch of cunts!
on a side note, i need a bus to Outline cos havoc wants to jump off a 1m building!!!
maali: that boo-boo soup got you too far.
as i said to gargaj in the thread we all know about, i've had my dose of "you do graphics whatever for pirate groups so fuck you with your respect word" - we do it for our art to be spread and period, artscene is artscene, we won't comment about it here, you don't have the arguments i've got nor do i have yours, it's all okay about that so please, once and for all, seriously, stop with that, because it seriously is far, far away in the universe and is completely another point.
now that this is stated, can i be seen as something else than someone "playing the fucking ethics or copyright issue and add more blah blah stuff", please? thanks in advance.
the fact is, that when you build a relationship with someone, if you respect him, you wait for him to respect you in return. whatever the relationship is, even if only weak and not that friendly at a long distance but cool and sweet in real, respect is something that has to be shown whenever you can, with anyone anyways.
that said, knowing the fact that we all have the same passion, and knowing the fact that h2o is a part of it, having him jammin' in saying he's just sorry and learned from his mistake would be a total normal thing.
and to reply to your question, that's far deeper than the lines you read. i talk about actions which just are enveloppes of fundamentals. h2o coming over here and apologizing would show he learned from his mistake. it's not only about "he won't do it again", it's about "he won't do it again, learn why he did hurt other, learn why he doesn't have to do it again because even if he doesn't feel hurt, it hurts other and they ARE important because of friendship and simply because they are human beings".
i don't take any pleasure in having someone apologizing for his mistakes, i take pleasure when i see that this someone learned from it, found a new human side in himself, and is completely happy about it.
in the end, who fucking cares? alien, kenet, me. because of the top mentionned facts, and because personnaly, i did all of this to have h2o showing modesty and humility, real human feelings and emotions, instead of hiding behind a lie which only brings the so fucking good image i had from him down, seriously down, completely down, whatever he's done in the past for the scene and for -insertwhatevergrouphereincludingdeviancedemolol-.
now, instead of repeating the same things about how and why we roll this way, can't you just fucking understand that we do it because we got good arguments, we learned from our mistakes, we want peace and respect and that's mostly about it?
as i said to gargaj in the thread we all know about, i've had my dose of "you do graphics whatever for pirate groups so fuck you with your respect word" - we do it for our art to be spread and period, artscene is artscene, we won't comment about it here, you don't have the arguments i've got nor do i have yours, it's all okay about that so please, once and for all, seriously, stop with that, because it seriously is far, far away in the universe and is completely another point.
now that this is stated, can i be seen as something else than someone "playing the fucking ethics or copyright issue and add more blah blah stuff", please? thanks in advance.
the fact is, that when you build a relationship with someone, if you respect him, you wait for him to respect you in return. whatever the relationship is, even if only weak and not that friendly at a long distance but cool and sweet in real, respect is something that has to be shown whenever you can, with anyone anyways.
that said, knowing the fact that we all have the same passion, and knowing the fact that h2o is a part of it, having him jammin' in saying he's just sorry and learned from his mistake would be a total normal thing.
and to reply to your question, that's far deeper than the lines you read. i talk about actions which just are enveloppes of fundamentals. h2o coming over here and apologizing would show he learned from his mistake. it's not only about "he won't do it again", it's about "he won't do it again, learn why he did hurt other, learn why he doesn't have to do it again because even if he doesn't feel hurt, it hurts other and they ARE important because of friendship and simply because they are human beings".
i don't take any pleasure in having someone apologizing for his mistakes, i take pleasure when i see that this someone learned from it, found a new human side in himself, and is completely happy about it.
in the end, who fucking cares? alien, kenet, me. because of the top mentionned facts, and because personnaly, i did all of this to have h2o showing modesty and humility, real human feelings and emotions, instead of hiding behind a lie which only brings the so fucking good image i had from him down, seriously down, completely down, whatever he's done in the past for the scene and for -insertwhatevergrouphereincludingdeviancedemolol-.
now, instead of repeating the same things about how and why we roll this way, can't you just fucking understand that we do it because we got good arguments, we learned from our mistakes, we want peace and respect and that's mostly about it?