Laptop needed for WebGL - advice please!
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Hi,
I have no clue about laptop 3D accelerators, but just from general knowledge, they're generally of the "Intel Integrated" variety. Well, I want a laptop I can do WebGL on, and I'd like to know if this would be enough.
If no proper 3D cards, such as the ones available on desktops, are available for laptops, is there a way to get it to use software?
Thanks.
I have no clue about laptop 3D accelerators, but just from general knowledge, they're generally of the "Intel Integrated" variety. Well, I want a laptop I can do WebGL on, and I'd like to know if this would be enough.
If no proper 3D cards, such as the ones available on desktops, are available for laptops, is there a way to get it to use software?
Thanks.
The man from the clue shoppe suggests buying a laptop with a GPU from ATI or nvidia.
Oh shit, it's this guy.
All current new laptops will do WebGL, even Intel Integrated ones. If you want them to do WebGL faster, get a better GPU.
If you need to know what one is best, check the GPU charts on notebookcheck.net:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html?&3dmark01=1&3dmark03=1&3dmark05=1&3dmark06=1&3dmark11_gpu=0&archive=0&benchmark_values=&cb11_ogl=0&cinebench10_ogl=0&codename=0&condensed=0&corespeed=1&daysold=0&deskornote=0&directx=1&dx=0&gpu_fullname=1&heaven=0&memorybus=1&memoryspeed=1&month=&multiplegpus=0&or=&pixelshaders=1&professional=0&search=&shaderspeed=1&sort=&technology=0&type=&vantage3dmark=0&vantage3dmarkgpu=1&vertexshaders=1
All current new laptops will do WebGL, even Intel Integrated ones. If you want them to do WebGL faster, get a better GPU.
If you need to know what one is best, check the GPU charts on notebookcheck.net:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html?&3dmark01=1&3dmark03=1&3dmark05=1&3dmark06=1&3dmark11_gpu=0&archive=0&benchmark_values=&cb11_ogl=0&cinebench10_ogl=0&codename=0&condensed=0&corespeed=1&daysold=0&deskornote=0&directx=1&dx=0&gpu_fullname=1&heaven=0&memorybus=1&memoryspeed=1&month=&multiplegpus=0&or=&pixelshaders=1&professional=0&search=&shaderspeed=1&sort=&technology=0&type=&vantage3dmark=0&vantage3dmarkgpu=1&vertexshaders=1
unfortunately even mobile phones can do full webgl - that should give you an idea on how "powerful" they decided to make webgl :(
mobile phones can do some pretty awesome gfx too these days. Besides, what would be the point of a new web standard that doesn't work on mobile?
it might work on amiga?
can i call with my amiga?
Lunaquatic runs on Safari for iOS 4... less than 1FPS, but it runs. So it all depends on your GPU.
Only amiga makes it possible!
At the moment, WebGL is slow even on my pimped out i7 GTX570-rig, so..
There's a HP range with Quadro mobility GPUs in 'em, check it out
Anyone who can point me to a good webgl to check performance on my Fujitsu laptop with Quadro 880M GPU
When running it made some strange pauses.. but endpart was very fluent here on my laptop.
Fujitsu Celsius H700, i7 2,67GHz, 8GB Ram, W7 64bit, NVidia Quadro 880M (1GB)
Fujitsu Celsius H700, i7 2,67GHz, 8GB Ram, W7 64bit, NVidia Quadro 880M (1GB)
rome even runs decent on my 4 years old laptop (c2d@2ghz+nv 8800GS) so... guess you dont need a fucking expensive lappy for basic webgl coding (assuming you dont need a truckload of shaders + everything running at 60fps all the time) :P
Yep ro.me was fluent and nice on my laptop as well, it didn't seem to even break a sweat (i7/amd 6750m (review)). Chrome as suggested by the site and 1680x1050 fullscreen.
Rome runs pretty fluid on my Phenom II X4 + AMD FirePro V3800(The not so well known successor of the FireGL line), despite the fact its a cut down Radeon 5570. Browser is the SRWare Iron (Chrome version 13).
Hello? Is this the biggest GPU dick waving thread? ;P
On topic:
If you really want a small netbook with good graphics:
10" --> Atom Dualcore N570 with an ION2 GPU or an AMD C-60 that has an integrated Radeon 6290 GPU.
11-12" --> Atom Dualcore N570 with an ION2 GPU or an AMD E-350 that has an integrated Radeon 6310 GPU.
Don't go for the integrated Intel graphics (ala GMA 3150). They suck... The new Intel Atoms N2x00 are not out yet and there seems to be some problem with their GPU or drivers.
As for driver quality on both windows and linux:
1. Nvidia
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2. AMD / Intel
3. others
On topic:
If you really want a small netbook with good graphics:
10" --> Atom Dualcore N570 with an ION2 GPU or an AMD C-60 that has an integrated Radeon 6290 GPU.
11-12" --> Atom Dualcore N570 with an ION2 GPU or an AMD E-350 that has an integrated Radeon 6310 GPU.
Don't go for the integrated Intel graphics (ala GMA 3150). They suck... The new Intel Atoms N2x00 are not out yet and there seems to be some problem with their GPU or drivers.
As for driver quality on both windows and linux:
1. Nvidia
.
.
.
2. AMD / Intel
3. others
ASUS U36J. Not the best GPU & CPU - but nvidia & intel, good battery runtime and lightweight.
(and not that expensive)
avoid intel GMA.
Well that's 13"... I have an Acer Aspire 3820T (i5/Radeon 5650/SSD) and am very happy with it. The newer 3830 seem to suck though and look like shit.
http://www.rome.ro/ -- known to make everybody his biatches
The whole NV Optimus thing is actually pretty nice - the GeForce takes over when there's hard 3D work to do and the rest (GUI, movies, etc) is handled by the internal Intel GMA3200 which is easily fast enough. Just remember that the default config is only to turn on the GF for known executables - until I found that setting I was like "why is everything so slow and why doesn't dx11 work?" :)
(got myself an Asus K53SV lately - good stuff for little money. If you can live without USB3, 5Ghz WLAN and a high resolution display. But you'll get a Sandy Bridge I5 (2 cores, 2 threads each), GF540M and 6GB instead)
(got myself an Asus K53SV lately - good stuff for little money. If you can live without USB3, 5Ghz WLAN and a high resolution display. But you'll get a Sandy Bridge I5 (2 cores, 2 threads each), GF540M and 6GB instead)
U36J has USB3 but not the latest intel GPU. What KB said, and if you want to go for linux on a optimus machine - well you are kinda fucked (maybe the situation changed but I don't think so). But you can disable at least the NV stuff and run the whole thing with acceptable power consumption.