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Let's be clear about this. Why do most sceners have nobody to fuck?

Because women suck.

They're broken. They behave like aliens, like idiots, like robots. Just not like human beings.

Let me ask you this.

How often has a woman come up to you and asked you if you want to give her some sex? Just like that?

How often have you even heard of women do that sort of thing?

Yeah. That's the thing. They don't do that.

So let me ask you: Why not? It would be the most natural thing in the world to do. You want something - you ask someone to give it to you. WHY DON'T THEY DO IT?

Here's a clue.

They have been taught by their idiot mothers that they have to wait until a guy makes a move on her. Yeah right. One of those guys that have also been so horrible broken by their mothers that they will never muster the courage to do that.

So that is the situation: A total dead-lock. Guys don't flirt properly, girls don't flirt properly. Nobody flirts properly and thus: Nobody has sex.

So there's the demo scene for you :)

Nobody has sex except for kb (well he claims he does :)) and the married guys.

But speaking of married guys: Married guys are like the biggest losers of them all. They can fuck ONLY ONE GIRL. And usually marriage degrades so quickly that this girl stops fucking them too. Yes. That leaves them with NO SEX. With a married man, you can usually watch his manhood go down the drain, year over year. They lose their edge, they lose their sex, they lose everything that makes them a man.

or maybe girls just dont fancy your generalisms and pseudo-psychologic bullshit? :P

i used to think like this also.
but then, 5 weeks ago, it finally hit me. girl don't like me, they like everything around me.
so i started bragging about what i can, music, math, proza, ICT... everything.
now i'm having sex twice a week, with a dif girl each time (only one ugly girl so far, only online date also...), and still dates comming up.
they don't know about eachother, and i'm thinking about keeping one for a while (y)

shut up optimus my friend

Navis: please update your blog ;-)

yeh, write an entry about magic!

it happened at my school reunion. a lovely woman wanted to have sex with me on the football course. i refused to do it because i didnt want to fuck in public and afraid that my classmates could look at us.

maybe if you want to fuck some girl you just have to do whatever the woman tells you to and go for it in whatever situation that may be. but i am no expert on this, so take this as easy read.

i have a question: how often did you come up to a women and asked her for sex straight ahead? my guess would be: exactly the number of times they did that to you. am i right?

btw.: girls are no idiots, you should not behave like you can generalize/objectify/"know" them, because as soon as they sense you think that way, they're doing their best to avoid you (as i would also if i were a girl). so it all comes down to bravery, a little bit of intelligence and a lot of empathy.

mr. rasterblaster: most women i met don't like guys that do whatever they say. but most of them like guys who treat them as real people...

That "real people" thing is very much the point.

It`s the men/boys that are stupid, they wanna impress using childish remarks and hence makes a damn fool out of himself. A girl don`t care if u have coded a world record 48 polygon glenz vector on the amiga 500.

today i learned some very important things - about women - on pouet!

for you, there's only one solution: RAPE.

hcdlt: well, sorry if i wasnt clear about that. she asked me. she didnt tell me to do anything. my point was also that you get asked by a woman when you least expect it.
you have to be yourself. i think that is important.

There is nothing wrong with girls. But I will answer because this thread is interesting.



I am not sure if it's true, but I think sceners and geeks and weirdos do have a girlfriend most of the times. Everytime I talk to a friend about a scener who did that crazy 4k, a weirdo like sotsoft (solo2 alike), some random guy who laughs unexplicably, some C64 coder who did a massive demo, they tell me "That guy is crazy, but I bet he doesn't have a girlfriend". But I do know they have. I have read it somewhere, they told it to me, etc. And most people I meet in the scene are not the lifeless people without a girlfriend. And most geeks.

I think that the stereotype that geeks don't have a girlfriend is generally wrong. Except if everyone is playing, everyone doesn't want to admit it and creates imaginary girlfriends. I can hardly do that, I can't lie about this.

Unfortunately me and you mr Ze Vibrator are the exception.



Yes, apart from the mother part (I don't know the real reasons), I think the reason for celibacy is not having the courage (or the impudence?). The few friends of mine who I know never had a girlfriend so far are thinkng it too much. "Maybe if I try to reach her, something will happen?", "Maybe if I touch her, it will be inappropriate?", "Maybe if I said that, it would be misunderstood?", "Maybe I should go more slowly with this?". We are afraid to reach girl, and flirt (and what comes next) because we could put her in a difficult position or it could be inappropriate, I don't know.

Most of them are not really geeks like we sceners. They could be, it's just not statistically significant, not the main reason for celibacy. So these people I know are the very very good sensitive guys. So good that they are afraid to move on. So good that it's not good anymore.

And an irony. You might have heard many girls saying "You are a very good guy, I like good guys and it's rare to see one, most people are assholes". A lot of girls are saying that but they go with the "assholes" anyways. Are the girls deluded?

mr r.: okay, i understand. and while you're right with "be yourself" (which doesn't help anybody who doesn't know himself, i'm afraid), it's totally okay to make the first step (suggestions, flirting and so on) as a guy too. i think there's no script as to who has to be the one to come forward, which makes it all the more exciting IMHO.

i've also had this experience with girl(s) asking me to make out, but i refused out of cowardness. can't say i'm sorry about that today though, because looking back, in almost every situation it was the right choice, or i would have lost a lot of reputation (not to mention self respect) by now.

optimus: there it is again. you're generalizing girls as if they all were the same. i bet most of them don't like that. you wouldn't like that if it was done to you either, wouldn't you?

btw, a lot of those "assholes" become assholes, because they got "your" girl. and while i agree that it helps a lot to don't think too much and thus blocking yourself from being a pleasant person to be with, it really doesn't help to be an asshole either. that only applies to girls you don't want to be around, because they've got some serious issues, trust me...

my experience was, that the more grown up the girls behaved, the more i liked them. the more grown up i behaved, the more those girls liked me. and of course it helps to talk about them and yourself and be really interested in the things she says. not because she's so pretty, but because those things really _are_ interesting. and if she didn't look like <put your favourite movie/porn/photo star here> before, she becomes more and more beautiful with every detail that impresses you.

Also, read this.

I used to feel bad with myself for not having a girlfriend but for what? Do I really need one? Most of the times it wasn't about the sex. Sometimes it was about feeling that someone cares about you. But you don't need that if you are confident with yourself. It was mostly my stupid idea that if I don't have one (and never had one) I would look like a total asshole, worthless, insignificant person. It was some kind of social pressure, I mean pressure from society ideas, everyone around you has a girlfriend, you see the same patterns on movies, it's only you, only the most insignificant person who doesn't and never had.

But this is bullshit! Why do you want a girlfriend? Are we maybe pressured by social rules, we need it to not show that we don't have one? And imagine one little thing, everyone bothers you to do it because they say it's the most beautiful, most natural thing, to love and be loved. But we render it unnatural, we make it be something coming out of fear.

I woke up. I have learned all these because of the rotating zen inside me. I also read articles like that. Oh,,.. and I searched for "I am XX years old and I don't have a girlfriend/boyfriend" on google. You see that you are not alone in this. And then you see paranoia, stupidity, needless fear. And then maybe you wake up... (it might takes ages)

Ahh,. I might blog about this.

Sorry, I didn't mean to generalize. I said that a lot of girls around my place say this thing and many seem to agree. The question still remains. Why do women say this? Why don't they try to hook up with some of the good guys. Those are the people who need someone to love them most. And those are the people who lack this. Then why doesn't it happen? (I said it actually, it doesn't happen because those guys are too good and shy to do some steps into that direction, by why does it remain like this, why do girls don't help approach these people if they all like those good guys? Oh,. it only happens in the movies :)

optimus: i don't _needed_ a girlfriend - i wanted one. and that always was meant as a reference to a certain girl i met. i think if you feel obligated to get a gf, you're damned to fail.
i don't judge people by their ability or interest in getting a gf, and i think everyone who does is just plain stupid. my cousin for example really wasn't interested in girls while being at school, because those girls didn't attract him for several reasons. even at university, it lasted about 2 years until he met a girl he liked. now he's her boyfriend and it turns out that you don't have to try to force sth you didn't want in the first place.
also, there are a lot of gay guys who think that they _have_ to get a girlfriend because of society's pressure, which interestingly enought almost all of the time translates to either "parent's pressure" or selfmade anxiety. just calm down and walk around with open eyes. and most importantly: don't make your self esteem depend on other people's opinions.

optimus: most girls like extraverted guys. bad guys are really expert on this kind of thing. but why would you care? using up all your energy on dwelling on the outside world doesnt help you at all. and what hcdlt said.

"to good" - no
"to shy" - yes, maybe

i know of some women who tried to help but didn't manage to overcome their counterpart's shyness. that's really a difficult thing to do, especially if that certain guy has a lot of issues that he didn't deal with yet.

also, don't think you're better than the next guy, because there's no way of knowing that. maybe a woman really doesn't like you and uses the "You are a very good guy, I like good guys and it's rare to see one" thing as an excuse to not having to tell you the truth. and maybe this woman really likes the other guy you referenced as an asshole for reasons that you don't get.

i've thought that i would've been be the better choice quite some times, but i'm afraid that the woman didn't agree, and rightfully so. because if she did not like me for whatever reason, i most likely wouldn't have been the "good" guy for her that i was considering myself to be. it hurts, but that's something you have to accept.

hcdlt: Deep.

i forgot: most romantic movies i've watched until now are utter crap, especially when it comes to "doing things right" with a girl. most of the times they're shallow, unrealistic and cheesy, with a crystal clear aim at young girls who dream of meeting the prince on the white horse who comes to rescue them from whatever they think they need to be rescued.

there are of course some really good ones too, like "eternal sunshine of a spotless mind" for example. if you haven't seen this one yet, you should. might be interesting for you (despite i don't really know you).

In this thread: girls don't like me, and it's their fault.