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Global Warming is a SCAM

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There is a reason I am 100% humorless about this. My country has used the occation to go all out fascist state and it is becoming increasingly obvious that the weather and good old self loathing will pave the way for much, much more of this. Even if the science is spot on after all the random handling and adjustment on adjustment of data, the politics surrounding it is of a nature that has no stopping mechanism. it will and does not know when to back off again.

The reason I even want to talk about it with other people is not because I have a solution to it, but because I do not.
added on the 2009-12-16 20:54:35 by NoahR NoahR
Krabob You are confusing me with you now.
added on the 2009-12-16 20:55:12 by NoahR NoahR
iblis: the first post, so that's what i'll reply to (good start, no?)
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I read that Holland are leading the way by example and plan to legislate the introduction of GPS tracking devices in all new cars. The device will monitor how many miles you travel and charge an additional "eco-tax" for every mile.

similar system already exists in germany
added on the 2009-12-16 20:56:35 by havoc havoc
i read all other posts too now, and i agree with all of them :)
added on the 2009-12-16 20:57:51 by havoc havoc
btw, does anyone know where to find carebears-themed desktop wallpapers? thanks in advance!
added on the 2009-12-16 20:58:54 by havoc havoc
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i read all other posts too now, and i agree with all of them :)


That's great! what is not so great is that you must suffer from dementia or Schizophrenia since there is pro's, con's and everything in between. No clear consensus (just like among the scientists, funny how the ivory tower mimics real life some times).

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btw, does anyone know where to find carebears-themed desktop wallpapers? thanks in advance!


Sure
http://www.bedtimebear.com/forums/local_links.php?catid=1

You're welcome. Hope the...problem, gets better. But when it does, come back and tell us how it's going.
added on the 2009-12-16 22:16:37 by NoahR NoahR
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i read all other posts too now, and i agree with all of them :)

That's great! what is not so great is that you must suffer from dementia or Schizophrenia since there is pro's, con's and everything in between. No clear consensus (just like among the scientists, funny how the ivory tower mimics real life some times).


I guess that's just a way to say how vain this thread is !...
added on the 2009-12-16 22:21:56 by doh doh
how vain eebliss and rtype are.
added on the 2009-12-16 22:27:27 by krabob krabob
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I guess that's just a way to say how vain this thread is !...

Just like the climate science. But what is not vague is the political decisions our 'electees' are bending over backwards to impose on everybody.

Now we can add Russia to the list of nations whom suspect their weather data has been manipulated. (not lies, manipulated)
http://en.rian.ru/papers/20091216/157260660.html

"IEA analysts say climatologists use the data of stations located in large populated centers that are influenced by the urban-warming effect more frequently than the correct data of remote stations.

The scale of global warming was exaggerated due to temperature distortions for Russia accounting for 12.5% of the world's land mass. The IEA said it was necessary to recalculate all global-temperature data in order to assess the scale of such exaggeration.

Global-temperature data will have to be modified if similar climate-date procedures have been used from other national data because the calculations used by COP15 analysts, including financial calculations, are based on HadCRUT research."
added on the 2009-12-16 22:28:28 by NoahR NoahR
Crapbob, Just because we don't buy into your hippie wonderland in which food and clothing falls out of the sky and transportation happens on unicorns. I am not against reality like you are, I would just like a more honest one and have come to realise that if you do not pester ordinary people to the point of nausea, nothing gets done ever. Why is this? Because that is how people usually get their opinions by having them repeated as static background noise ad neaseum until something sticks.The same ordinary people who are the root cause of most of our problems by apathy
added on the 2009-12-16 22:32:46 by NoahR NoahR
Why talking or listen to what are obviously vain morons with no common sense ?
added on the 2009-12-16 22:53:58 by krabob krabob
“Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people.”

George Bernard Shaw
added on the 2009-12-16 22:55:52 by funkyou78 funkyou78
sounds pretty reasonable.
added on the 2009-12-16 22:58:33 by NoahR NoahR
... for a morron
added on the 2009-12-16 23:42:52 by krabob krabob
crapbob, I think your unicorns are running out of the pen. You better get them.
added on the 2009-12-17 00:23:17 by NoahR NoahR
CrzyClst: it was actually snowing here today. i'm not sure, but ive heard the upper atmosphere has to be pretty cold for that to happen. :)

krabob, don't read eebliss' Russian post...its scaaarey!!
added on the 2009-12-17 00:52:38 by button button
yeah? I am SO happy for global warming. parts of Denmark are closed of due to snow (Fyen) and here in Copenhagen it looks like it is going that way as well. As we speak I have 10cm+ of fresh snow outside the window and it is freezing bollox! If it wasn't for global warming we would have been completely covered.

Since snow is actually kind of unusual in Denmark (we haven't had proper winter for 10 years+ and last white christmass was in 1995) we are told that the reason it snows is....wait for it.....wait for it.....AGW!
added on the 2009-12-17 00:59:12 by NoahR NoahR
yep, well, it's pretty common here in the uk. we had it last year, and the year before that, and the previous one, and...well, you get my point. In fact 2008 was the coolest year on record but apparently our experts told us that thats "no evidence of a slowed rate of GW". :P

oooorly!? o_O
added on the 2009-12-17 01:16:59 by button button
It's strange how one moment global warming is a Terribly Complicated Subject where your opinion is not valid unless you've done weeks of research, and the next moment "ITZ SNOWING LOL THAT DISPROVES GLOBAL WARMING LOL".
added on the 2009-12-17 01:54:32 by gasman gasman
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It's strange how one moment global warming is a Terribly Complicated Subject where your opinion is not valid unless you've done weeks of research


that would be your side who keeps pulling the good ol' appeal to authority baloney and who keeps attacking peoples affiliations if they are not politically correct.

added on the 2009-12-17 02:21:28 by NoahR NoahR
i agree. apparently, even the creation of snow relys not just on constant cold temperatures but also the movement into and out of warmer regions. real weather is affected by lots of stuff: airpressure, humidity, wind speed, sub weather systems, sub atmospheric temps/pressure, complex interactions of chemicals, solar energy, ions, and probably a whole lot more besides (which even teh scientists are not fully aware of).

however, more recent research has proven that only the quantity of CO2 emitted by humans is affecting our climate.

go figure.
added on the 2009-12-17 02:28:04 by button button
delusional...
added on the 2009-12-17 02:28:24 by havoc havoc
+ what eebliss just said :)
added on the 2009-12-17 02:29:05 by button button
And I am sick and tired of you folks strawmen. Could you get them all out now that were at it? I spend weeks going through piles of crap, articles, commentaries, etc.. you come in and in and have a look at ONE. UNO, EINZ, A single one of all the puzzle pieces on the table atm. Still enough for you to draw an opinion clearly set in stone. So forgive me if I am ever so slightly sceptical of your -no doubt remarkable- research skills when you reach conclusions that fast on a single piece of information from a whole pile?

I never used the ice cores as a smoking Gun, but I think you were too busy debunking (google.com seachterms= anti whatever the other guy is saying) to notice. So get pissy all you want to, that is what it looks like.
added on the 2009-12-17 02:32:20 by NoahR NoahR

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