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anyone have some tips on a good screen to replace my old 19" CRT?

i'm thinking about something in the 22"-27" area. All the different kinds of panels are a bit confusing, so I thought I should ask here, where people want both screens that are good for graphics work and are good for viewing demos on.

atm i'm thinking about either a semi cheap samsung 22"-24" that could last a few years, or a semi expencive Dell 27" 2709W Widescreen.

dell 2408fpw for all your needs. Or any non-TN monitor at around the same price (>350E )

be aware with the samsung models, you aren't really sure what panel you get in them .. afaik .. could have changed though but the price is so low on them that you could end up with a semi-crappy panel.

As navis says, go for the dell one, dont know about 27", thats seems as a very big replacement for 19", but if you got the gold for it, go for it ;)

Also, if you're ever intending to use a Mac, then definitely steer clear from Samsung. Their shitty software for adjusting monitor stuff didn't work on my MBP, and after a bunch of googling and tech support their response was: "We don't support our products with Apple computers".

Thats weird, since Samsung make panels themselves, and a lot of other brands use Samsung panels.

My previous Sony Bravia LCD TV had a Samsung panel, for example :-)

Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP is around 750 euro
Dell UltraSharp 2709W is around 800 euro

They have so other 24"s but all based on TN.

I wonder if IPS based panels are good for moving graphics, seams they are great for 2d work and color repensentation.

I'm also a little interested in a new monitor. The Dell 2408WFP has composite and S-video inputs which is pretty cool, but my existing 20" Dell monitor has those (and is 4:3 so better suited for Amiga stuff anyway), but apart from that the specs seem no better than those of other brands that sell at half the price.

How would one go about comparing the 2408WFP to cheaper alternatives like, for example, this? "Non-TN monitor", what does that mean?

neptun: eBay is your friend. :)

We use 22" benq (M2200HD) monitors at work. They're pretty cheap (around 220 euro in norway), they come with HDMI, runs at 1080 natively, and has a few other nice additions (comes with web-cam, built-in usb hub, speakers and headphone line-out).

I'm used to 1600x1200. I wouldn't dream of getting a new monitor unless it was at least the same resolution. :)

xeron .. samsung makes more than one kind of panels you know ;)

doom .. you can't judge monitor quality by the specs, that would be too easy

If i was in your place, i'd order a couple of these.

Well. sorry for the french link, but 250 euro for 26" and 1920*1080... hard to beat. :)

Nice list of difference on the panels. Looks like I want IPS panel ;)

http://www.lcdresource.com/lcdtech

Problem with the DELL, from my personal perspective, is that I have a 2408WFP at work and in some wierd way my eyes get tirred from reading text on it. Dunno if its the VA panel or if its nature of looking into a lamp all day.

I looked around a bit and HP has a S-IPS monitor HP LP2475w for around 550 euro.

sorry, 1920*1200, i fail.

nystep: i can't even see what panel they are using, and never heard of that brand. So a bit iffy for me to get those :)

doom: never ordered on ebay as you generally are in bigger trouble if something breaks as compaired to ordering in from a reseller in denmark (who has to follow danish law).

neptun: those 24'' dell monitors have s-pva panels with a rather very image quality. i own one of them (2408WFP) for two years now and i am very satisfied...

"rather very" was meant to be "very good" ;-)

Thanks for the link, now I know all about TFT panels. :)



Surely there are better Danish resellers. There must be some middle man you can remove from the equation and save a bunch of money.

I found this, BTW: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/panels.php which seems very handy. A few relevant results:

- Dell 2408WFP (*) (widescreen) has a 24 inch 6 ms (g2g) S-PVA (Samsung LTM240CS05) panel.
- Dell 2709W (widescreen) has a 27 inch 6 ms (g2g) S-PVA panel.
- HP LP2475w (widescreen) has a 24 inch 6 ms (g2g) H-IPS (LM240WU4) panel.
- BenQ M2200HD (widescreen) has a 22 inch 2 ms (g2g) TN panel.

Sony VPL-HW10

2k€ in europe.

pommak: hehe nice idea, but I don't have the wall space for that, and sitting with a projector on my lap is not optimal :)

Hyundai W-241D also has a Samsung S-PVA panel, but costs only like 500€

this forum post on ars has many info.... my head is exploding soon.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2049206&enterthread=y

just walk into a store, have a look at the panels and buy one you like :)

You might also look want to look into older monitors. My Dell 2001FP is still in great shape, it does 1600x1200, has VGA, DVI, S-Video and composite inputs, bells and whistles like a picture-in-picture function. I'm not at all bothered by the 4:3 aspect. And as it turns out, it's an S-IPS panel which would explain why I've always found it had a great picture, perfect for graphics work.

Now, I paid about €500 for it in 2004-2005 (AFAIR). They dropped in price a little since, but then Dell stopped selling them. Anyway the point is that it doesn't look like high-end monitors are really getting any cheaper. The recent dramatic price cuts are only for the TN (and a few VA) monitors. So maybe you'd be better off looking for an older model, like the 2001FP. Amazon (the US one, sadly) has a seller that claims to have them in stock, and they're going for $279, which is fucking cheap, really. Maybe you shouldn't rule out second-hand, either?

StarCraft and some another games with strict screen resolution r a good reason for CRT mony