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My views are pretty much the same as rainmaker's. Paying should be always optional. Art should be inherently collaborative and "open source".
added on the 2009-02-16 21:20:17 by visy visy
gloom: you are totally ignoring the fact that traditional promotion (tv/radio commercials, stars in tv shows, etc...) doesn't work well anymore : communities, buzz and 'piracy' are the new way of promotion above all else.
added on the 2009-02-16 21:25:09 by aftu aftu
thec: I'm loving Spotify as well. I hope they manage to find some revenue-streams though, so that the service can be kept alive. Their free "ad-supported" version doesn't have any advertisements (not a lot, anyway) and radio ads are dead, so.. I root for them. :)

aftu: Actually, that's exactly what I was saying.. Oh, and welcome back Zest.
added on the 2009-02-16 21:35:01 by gloom gloom
back in the days were there was no music industry there were also artists.
the industry is getting more and more obsolete these days, with the rise of alternative distribution methods.

and by ignoring new technologies and sueing everyones ass off they dig their own grave.
added on the 2009-02-17 01:39:48 by v3nom v3nom
just my 2ct
added on the 2009-02-17 01:39:56 by v3nom v3nom
gloom: i haven't ever heard any radio-ad on spotify (and I have it on all day), but I get many banner ads on the program itself (which is ok since I have it minimized all the time).

However, many (actually all, but I added new ones) of the albums I had on my playlists have dissapeared in the last days... I'm not sure the service will be able to last long (I hope I'm wrong though).
added on the 2009-02-17 09:31:18 by Jcl Jcl
v3nomsoup: well summed up.

though "back in the days" huge artists were sponsored by rich elites.


it's a new era for artists and arts, tools have never been that democratized, now masses can pretend to be artists too and there will be fewer overpaid superstars, it matches the end of a certain economic madness.

for example has U2 deserved to become multimillionaire ? ok they are (were) good but rationally not that much compared to many local rock bands...

like many people i've decided to support local scenes and web artists, directly ; merchants can go back to selling cans and tins :)
added on the 2009-02-17 09:42:42 by aftu aftu
Releated: http://www.golem.de/0902/65312.html (german)
added on the 2009-02-17 10:48:05 by raer raer
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Paying should be always optional.

how about making payments the decision of the author?
added on the 2009-02-17 14:47:46 by Gargaj Gargaj
that's the way to go
added on the 2009-02-17 16:38:19 by gr9yfox gr9yfox
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how about making payments the decision of the author?


Considering that obeying the law is generally optional that might be difficult task to accomplish.
added on the 2009-02-17 17:40:54 by 216 216
many laws are obsolete and distorted compared to real life practice.
added on the 2009-02-17 18:29:20 by aftu aftu
Quote:
The BBC reports that Swedish prosecutors have dropped some of the copyright charges against founders of the file-sharing site Pirate Bay. The charge of “assisting copyright infringement” was dropped, leaving the four defendants — Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde, Fredrik Neij and Carl Lundstrom — to face a lesser charge of “assisting making available copyright material,” according to the article.
added on the 2009-02-17 19:39:39 by gloom gloom
The trial was hilarious to listen to today :)
added on the 2009-02-17 22:22:34 by leijaa leijaa
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/693342/Live-Blog-DICE-2009-Keynote---Gabe-Newell-Valve-Software.html#readmore

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Last weekend, Valve decided to do an experiment with Left 4 Dead. Last weekend's sale resulted in a 3000% increase over relatively flat numbers. It sold more last weekend than when it launched the game.

Valve is smart :)
added on the 2009-02-19 17:25:32 by aftu aftu
an experiment being...? releasing the goddamn game on time? :)
added on the 2009-02-19 17:37:42 by Gargaj Gargaj
Half price in that weekend. (And it's fun and worth the money at half price, but not full).
It's interesting to know that they made 15% percent more money selling games at 25% the price.
added on the 2009-02-19 19:07:29 by xernobyl xernobyl
Nothing beats a quality original.
added on the 2009-02-19 19:07:55 by 4kum4 4kum4
xernobyl: games are usually too expensive at their launch date but to be honest that Valve experiment doesn't mean that games should be always at that lower price, the reason of this sales increase is mostly psychological : it's because people feel it was a bargain compared to the original price and specially for such a renowned game which has already become part of geek culture (like half-life, portal or tf2...)
added on the 2009-02-19 19:38:46 by aftu aftu
My sister is quite pro-anti piracy. At the same time she is pro-liberal economy. Is it just me, or is making money out of a 10+ year old product what these pro-liberal economy fanatics are against?
added on the 2009-02-19 20:38:32 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
wtf stefan you got siblings?
added on the 2009-02-19 22:45:34 by leijaa leijaa
and can they contradict themselves 6x in the same sentence too?
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and can they contradict themselves 6x in the same sentence too?

her career depends on it (not politics but almost)
added on the 2009-02-20 17:10:05 by Hatikvah Hatikvah

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