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oh, psshhht, nevermind, it ignores high contrast colors. Pure pain to use. Back to IE I go.

The wet paper bag that is your solid case against tabs in whatever you want to target the next post.


I know. When memory fails, I can always open a new TAB and browse to another page in this thread. P01 did, and that was pretty tongue in cheek to begin with. in case you need to be reminded, you also didn't start about televisions.


I know you didn't. You did plead the case that they were unnecessary for normal operation, which on the level you argued, is the exact same scenario for tabbed browsers.


If that is something that you want to plead your shaky case for, be my guest. The entertainment value probably won't be any less.

To recap: that's great Doom. Now go make a comic about it!

Should we open a dedicated doom/shifter bickering thread? There you could argue all day long about all things google & photoshop. :)

On topic: I'm satisfied with my Opera 9.5x setup, config-ed and speeddial.ini-tweaked to my needs. It works for the most part and since I don't use all those soon-to-be-replacing-my-desktop online applications besides webmail, I don't think that will change all that soon.

Shifter: My "case" is obviously just fine since you don't have anything to say about it. Yes, you can open another TAB. I could open another WINDOW just as easily. Difference is my window would be represented on the task bar, i.e. the bottom of the screen (though that is configurable too), whereas yours would be represented on the tab bar nearer the top of the screen. It's a question of how you want to group the documents you're working with. My belief is that one consistent system for doing so, whether those documents are web pages, pictures in Photoshop, Word documents, whatever, is a far better option, as opposed to each app doing its own thing. I believe this is also far better in tune with what Google are trying to achieve, that is, removing the distinction between web pages and applications.

If that's so shaky, please give me another perspective. Unlike you I don't get a kick out of being insulted and insulting others and I'd actually be interested in revising that opinion if there's something wrong with it. Pointing out that "oooh but you use Photoshop and that sort of uses tabs although in a completely different way from what we were talking about but they're still called 'tabs' so you must love tabs haha loser" is not another perspective, it's not even reasonable, it's just a childish way of polishing your own ego.

Tomaes: That won't be necessary. As long as Pouet is full of people looking for an argument, every thread is the bickering thread.

Google Chrome is magic. You won't find the program installation in your usual programs folder.

but chrome *is* safari, just with google branding.

also, what the hell is this image supposed to be showing me, just some arbitrary "performance" metric?

Now give JavaScript the graphics API it has always lacked and this might get really interesting...

@BattleDroid
Excel (at least the one from Office 2000) works the way you describe. Every open excel spreadsheet comes up in the taskbar seperately (although this is achieved by a hack rather than each being a seperate application instnace). I would much prefer it if it used tabs :-)

At least if EVERY app had one panel in the taskbar, and then every document in each app had a tab, that would also be consistent. Actually, i'd probably really like that.

Bluerberry: 2D Canvas is close to it. Audio and Video are coming too, with playbackSpeed/volume/seek/loop/callbacks control, they're not perfect but that's a significant jump in the right direction. An interesting direction at least.

but how many browsers will feature sound in javascript

better look into flash's direction for now

For now.

Opera and FireFox will have it. Most likely Webkit too. So what does it leave ? IE ... good grief.

hrm the google chrome logo looks like an all seeing eye! :)

probably some truth to that, they spying on what we look up.

Yes, I think that would be ideal. They sort of tried to do it in XP with the automatic grouping of "related items" on the taskbar, but it's done so stupidly it just gets in the way. Oh well.

And yeah, Excel uses the taskbar in a stupid way. Like if you close one spreadsheet, it sometimes closes other spreadsheets too, depending on whether you're actually running multiple instances of Excel or not, and you can't tell easily. Grr! That has annoyed me much over the years.

I'm surprised nobody discussed advertising yet. That's where google makes money after all. No news on whether chrome and adwords like each other more than they should?

With the contract google have done, I doubt there's any issue about your browser reporting to the ad servers what sort of stuff you've been looking at, especially if it's not passing your history over but just 'requesting something relevant. It's indexing each page you visit, and there's a convenient 'private browsing' mode to avoid it, are those features for the benefit of the users or google? :)

Google:

1) Release Chrome
2) Unable adblockers
3) ...
4) Profit!

i hate it.

i don't want it.

get it far from me.

texel: That should be like so:

1) Release Chrome
2) Unable adblockers
3) Profit!

This doesn't make sense.

Google releases a browser, hoping to profit from the ads they can push through it and the information they can collect about browsing habits and the like.

This browser is open source.

How long will it be until someone rips out all the "phone home" stuff from the browser and releases a "clean" version, free from adware and spyware? Maybe that has already happened?

Either Google is counting on enough people using the browser unmodified, or there is some other motive behind this (though the EULA seems to suggest otherwise).

no one making fun of chrome's EULA thing in here yet? thats odd.

ah, no, guybrush mentioned it last page already :)

google doesnt need to push any ads...

...they make money by collecting informations and selling em...thats how they also do it with their search-engine ( normal google ) forever already...

that said and having in mind how stupid the installer is,i won´t ever install googlechromeshit

copy paste, still number one cause for bugs in systems ^_^

So no more spying EULA, a permissive BSD licence, sounds like a good browser to me again. But I'll wait untill a build comes up without any "phone home" features.