NVScene 2008!
category: general [glöplog]
Oh well.
I'd like to make a humble note here that having great hardware doesn't necessarily equal a great demo && being able to do a great demo doesn't require great hardware. Cause that mindset kindof defies this whole, you know... demoscene thing... like, breaking the limits and all that.
Happy me i'm not a coder.
Fuckings to intel btw.
Fuckings to intel btw.
STFU already! Demoboxes are a privilege, not a fucking right! It comes from a private company! They have the right to decided who they give a computer to or not.
I can tell I was very disappointed -_-
this said make no mistake I'll deliver the prod anyway asap.
seems I'll stick to this 5yo dinossaur till... hm... 2016 :]
this said make no mistake I'll deliver the prod anyway asap.
seems I'll stick to this 5yo dinossaur till... hm... 2016 :]
fuckings to xernobyl for thinking nVidia is giving the stuff :D
It should have been some nvidia manager-guy responsible for deciding who got boxes and who didn't so all of you could send sincere fuckings to a company instead, leaving out all elitism problems :)
oh man... the amount of fuckings would be a _lot_ more...
:D
:D
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So if you decided not to give a demobox to that machine because they are kind enough to be supporting a private demoscene party with a company machine on lone for an evening, that's sad.
added on the 2008-05-21 01:41:10 by type2
What's sad is that you pop out of nowhere with your freshly created account (30 min ago), talking out of your ass and judging Gargaj and his work.
Now stop complaining already. If you help by providing a linux compo machine, do it because you want to help, not because you expect a reward from it. A second compo machine also means additional work for the orgs as well, they are doing you a favor somehow.
Also, a little reminder won't hurt :
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Why not just ditch the demobox crap and come for this weird reason called "fun" ? added on the 2008-05-18 22:53:40 by LiraNuna
For the first time we have a company that widely supports sceners to create something through a big event with a lot of hardware given in advance. Yet, people are complaining, over and over.
Strangely enough (or not), those people are far from being the most productive on the scene. And the hardware excuse is a sorry excuse : you don't need high-end machines to make marvels, Navis proved it many time with his outdated hardware. That Nvidia thing is a bonus, not something they owe you.
Nobody prevents you from entering the compo and win some hardware over there if it's indeed your only concern.
Easy conclusion for Nvidia and the people who helped to have this event : next time, organize nothing, don't support anybody, don't give away anything, that's the only way to have 0 complaint and 0 whiner.
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Easy conclusion for Nvidia and the people who helped to have this event : next time, organize nothing, don't support anybody, don't give away anything, that's the only way to have 0 complaint and 0 whiner.
Wow, all of that fuzz around something i never should have said. Guys, i repeat, i seriously don't give a fuck about free hardware, humble, humbleness and elitism. I was GUESSING that it all was about elitism and guessed wrong, thus why i said "sorry".
actually navis plans to do it again - they didnt get a box either (not sure if they even asked for one.)
and yeah, reading the thread back, that quote was something that kinda made me wonder too.
i mean seriously, people, have some sensibility, you make it sound like it's the end of the world that you didnt get a box - sure, it can be friggin disappointing, i understand that, but first off you didnt LOSE anything, no wasted effort or anything of the sort, secondly perhaps try to be at least social enough to appreciate the people who DID get boxes, and perhaps wish them the best to create the next debris/lifeforce/masagin/rob is jarig... and yeah, i sound like a god damned hippy but the whole concept of free boxes was to help THE SCENE as a concept, nothing else. if you dont like the idea, we can live with that, but i'm sure some would disagree.
and yeah, reading the thread back, that quote was something that kinda made me wonder too.
i mean seriously, people, have some sensibility, you make it sound like it's the end of the world that you didnt get a box - sure, it can be friggin disappointing, i understand that, but first off you didnt LOSE anything, no wasted effort or anything of the sort, secondly perhaps try to be at least social enough to appreciate the people who DID get boxes, and perhaps wish them the best to create the next debris/lifeforce/masagin/rob is jarig... and yeah, i sound like a god damned hippy but the whole concept of free boxes was to help THE SCENE as a concept, nothing else. if you dont like the idea, we can live with that, but i'm sure some would disagree.
irokos : that was not meant for you but for the redundant complaints in general and for the lame "we help with a linux machine and we have nothing in return" :)
<3 keops <3
computers dont make demos, people do.
and keops has a golden point, the people who complain, are
the fuckwads who don't produce anything.
we live in an unfair world. there you go.
computers dont make demos, people do.
and keops has a golden point, the people who complain, are
the fuckwads who don't produce anything.
we live in an unfair world. there you go.
keops has spoken. back to your holes lamers!
there were 80 demoboxes and more than 120 people applied. it's obvious that not everyone could get one. i think that complaining will get us nowhere, there are no more demoboxes now! so either go on with your plans and make your demo for the NVscene event, or else, release your demo at another party this summer...
What a nice turn of events to wake up to.. :)
Actually, there were 120 groups who applied. Each group had to specify how many people would be working on their prod, as a sort of rudimentary way to help estimate their "need". If we count up all of those, we're looking at 302 boxes requested, which might help shed some light on just how popular this turned out to be.
Now, I'm quite proud actually, because that number (302) means that on average, each group "applied for" 2.5 demo box kits. That is a fair, sensible number, and most importantly; it shows that people weren't out to abuse the system! (Imagine if this had been a gamer-related giveaway, og dear lord help me..)
With that in mind (we honestly did not expect this many applications) we had to change our original idea a bit and simply try to cover as many groups as possible with the limited number of boxes we had. As far as I can remember, no single group (with one exception) got more than two boxes. A vast majority got "just" one.
I would also like to remind everyone that we also took timing into account here. The "first come, first serve" principle was in effect when deciding how to distribute the boxes. When you have a storm of people signing up AFTER they saw people carrying equipment around at Breakpoint, that's nice and all, but of course we were always going to prioritize those groups who signed up BEFORE.
In the end -- LiraLuna and the rest who feel bad they did not get a box.. I am sorry, I truly am. I would have loved nothing more than to shower the scene with free hardware and then sit back, relax and watch those amazing prods coming as a result of it, but unfortunately we live in the real world (What? That donut in my refrigerator isn't envmapped?!?) and we have to live by the limitations set by that world.
HOWEVER! This is the first time NVScene is being arranged -- NVIDIA will surely use this as a benchmark for success for coming years. What happens at Breakpoint 2009? Will there perhaps be more boxes for people then? We don't know yet, but we DO know one thing: if NVScene is a success.. that sure helps. :)
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there were 80 demoboxes and more than 120 people applied.
Actually, there were 120 groups who applied. Each group had to specify how many people would be working on their prod, as a sort of rudimentary way to help estimate their "need". If we count up all of those, we're looking at 302 boxes requested, which might help shed some light on just how popular this turned out to be.
Now, I'm quite proud actually, because that number (302) means that on average, each group "applied for" 2.5 demo box kits. That is a fair, sensible number, and most importantly; it shows that people weren't out to abuse the system! (Imagine if this had been a gamer-related giveaway, og dear lord help me..)
With that in mind (we honestly did not expect this many applications) we had to change our original idea a bit and simply try to cover as many groups as possible with the limited number of boxes we had. As far as I can remember, no single group (with one exception) got more than two boxes. A vast majority got "just" one.
I would also like to remind everyone that we also took timing into account here. The "first come, first serve" principle was in effect when deciding how to distribute the boxes. When you have a storm of people signing up AFTER they saw people carrying equipment around at Breakpoint, that's nice and all, but of course we were always going to prioritize those groups who signed up BEFORE.
In the end -- LiraLuna and the rest who feel bad they did not get a box.. I am sorry, I truly am. I would have loved nothing more than to shower the scene with free hardware and then sit back, relax and watch those amazing prods coming as a result of it, but unfortunately we live in the real world (What? That donut in my refrigerator isn't envmapped?!?) and we have to live by the limitations set by that world.
HOWEVER! This is the first time NVScene is being arranged -- NVIDIA will surely use this as a benchmark for success for coming years. What happens at Breakpoint 2009? Will there perhaps be more boxes for people then? We don't know yet, but we DO know one thing: if NVScene is a success.. that sure helps. :)
I'm sorry for acting like a retard, I guess greed got into me ;(
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it shows that people weren't out to abuse the system!
better wait until the compo with that one :)
btw i do presume that all this does is move demos from the other summer parties to nvscene, right. i mean, that's not going to surprise people, i hope.
Skrebbel, most likely so. I expect it to especially impact Assembly as we are just before NVscene, and people won't simply have time to make two high quality entries.
I do think it is really cool for Nvidia to do all of this, and I whole heartedly support wha Scene.org, Gloom, Gargaj and the rest of the posse are doing. It's smart for Nvidia to focus their money on doing few things well (Breakpoint sponsorship, demoboxes and NVScene), although I wouldn't mind if they would have continued to sponsor ASM too ;-).
In the long run this is going to be supercool if it helps the US scene grow. For Europeans in the long run I don't think NVScene can become significant. There is just no substitute to really going to party, meeting friends and seeing your entry on the screen.
I do think it is really cool for Nvidia to do all of this, and I whole heartedly support wha Scene.org, Gloom, Gargaj and the rest of the posse are doing. It's smart for Nvidia to focus their money on doing few things well (Breakpoint sponsorship, demoboxes and NVScene), although I wouldn't mind if they would have continued to sponsor ASM too ;-).
In the long run this is going to be supercool if it helps the US scene grow. For Europeans in the long run I don't think NVScene can become significant. There is just no substitute to really going to party, meeting friends and seeing your entry on the screen.
skrebbel: you would like to watch a compo with 80 entries?
isn't it hypocritical to call it US scene if most nvscene prods will be remote entries from europe ?
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actually navis plans to do it again
oh noes :)
anyway i'm pretty sure that the more parties (til a certain limit of course) the more prods, the demoscene can't live without cool parties... so Nvscene is obviously a great addition.
Zest: have you ever been to a demoparty?
