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Ouch...
I do not know why, but I read that the title was "RAIN"...
I do not know why..

Putin = Hitler 2.0

Rather tasteless, don't you think?

...I'd always support coding efforts on that respect...there's a place for art in anything...we are not living in a computer-pouet-happy-world-bubbly-bubble...and this one here just reflects a reality taking place unfortunately...though pouet might not be the place to discuss how it came that far...

An impressive production that’s both art and political statement, in 256b. I like it.

You wanted to express your feelings in these sad hours. I think that's it. Stay strong Ukraine and I wish this nightmare to end as soon as possible.

Not tasteless IMHO

These are dark days.

not tasteless. found it hard to watch, kept wanting it to stop, not because of the visuals but because of the war. proper art.

Aw... To be precise there many 2.0s these days. Sometimes just with a kind, smiling mask...

Do note judge it under your FIRST impression. Let it be...
Personally, first I found it delicate (personal sensibility), but later I came to the conclusion this production most probably hurts noone. It is an (artistic) expression. Strong, with emotions, but expression. I do not need to watch it daily nor watch it at all...

And you do not see bodies here with a zoom x1000, as the media feed you almost daily...

Thumbing down is like thumbing down shooter games (Operation Wolf, or Rambo or whatever) cause you are killing ppl in there.

Not easy times we got now... Not easy...
Be strong sisters and brothers!

sim, I live in Russia and I know what I'm talking about. Putin is a crazy dictator.

Hi BiTL.
I did not want to offend you and hope you did not feel bad. Thank you for your answer.

I think I know what you mean. It is a delicate subject for here, and I prefer to avoid it here (even if I am interested in that geo-political stuff).

But as I said, there are many 2.0s out there... In many countries. Too many! Some with a sheep-like face expression.
And the man you are talking about does not wear this mask (too often).

What mantratronic said

Fuck Putin, fuck his cronies and fuck everyone in the West who's wishy-washy about it or a Putin apologist.

Also - these 256 bytes hurt in exactly the right way.

What Preacher said.

Brilliant and definitely done with taste.
I'm sure every sane person in Russia or Ukraine wants peace. War is madness.

By supporting Ukraine, you support the Nazis and those who killed children. How it stinks in here.

totally what preacher said :/

Disturbing in a good way. Stay strong Ukraine.

Also what Preacher said. I didn't even realize the flag was being replaced with Russian colors. The visceral statement with a simple effect in 256 bytes is rather brilliant. To the last thumb-downer, turn off the Putin propaganda (aka Fox News of the East), and watch some actual video of the destruction happening right now.

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Fuck you

i saw it this morning and had the day to think about it. without context/meaning as explained by ilmenit it cries for being misunderstood imho if one does not know ilmenits position. but that can always happen with political things. tbh i was curious it the russian flag will be drawn completely or if the code was faulty ;) silly me.

even though i think politics can be or are important in any form of art it is simply not my thing. what my thing is however is the idea, the concept and how it comes together. so thumbs for that.

Yeah, without the clarification the intro could be seen both ways and it wasn't sure if it condemned or glorified what's happening...

But with it it's a strong artistic expression, and also a good 256b intro. Stay strong, and what Preacher said.

This is what I call Art with capital A.

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you draw inspiration from what you see around you. sad is this situation is, you actually made a good piece about it, both in content and in sizecoding tech.
Keep being like this.

Stop war!

Миру мир, войне пиписька

I really hope that this whole nightmare, lasting already 8 years, will soon end in peace. Patience and strength to the residents of Russia and Ukraine. Especially those who got into the epicenter of these events, forced to leave their home or lost loved ones.
I wish the adequacy to the government of all countries of the world in decision-making. I hope and believe that WW-III will not come...
Our grandfathers – Russians, Ukrainians (and others), who passed WW-II together, sharing their last shirt and a piece of bread, protecting each other with their bodies – were dying not for such future.
Russia is not the enemy of Ukraine! Stay in a sanity and sober mind. Do not incite enmity between peoples and inside the States...

I'd never had thought that I could give a thumb up to prod on this 'platform'.

Stop war!

So so. Yes, please end this war.

I don't think most Russians support Putin. The invasion of Ukraine is a humanitarian disaster. Thousands of women and children leaving the country. War, invasion is never a solution.
In a war "...young people kill each other without knowing or hating each other..."
Now, imagine the people of Pouet going to war, and we have to fight each other. It's INSANE!
The problem is Putin and his friends, who present a completely distorted worldview to Russians, they present a dystopian scenario where the rest of the world is against Russia and they must protect themselves from the rest of the world.
Well, the world is different now, we have Internet, we communicate, we do projects together, we work together, we are friends!
Only insane people start wars. Russians, Ukrainians or anyone in the world just want to live their lives peacefully, nobody wants war, any human loss is terrible.

war sux

Stop war!!

we remember well who supported Nazis:
German–Soviet military parade in Brest-Litovsk 22th September 1939

worth to mention that the leader of Putin's Wagner Group is just neonazi:
https://en.respublica.lt/signs-of-neo-nazi-ideology-amongst-russian-mercenaries

Why don't we accept that we are just all Nazis and get over it?

Because we're not. Don't believe what your nihilist far right bubble feeds you.

My post can be taken under any context. If everyone is separating people in the good-bad buckets, anyone can be the Nazi, even those who call others Nazis or other epithets (like far-right alt-right and whatever), because the title sticks, it puts them automatically to the subhuman category.

And I need to say something, but I am sure this will put me on the pro-Putin bucket list. So I have to preface it with "I don't support what Putin does, it's totally wrong!" (I am actually angry that a country in the civilized world decides to invade another country in our home Europe, it's close proximity to most of us, and makes me wonder if things are stable in the world).

Ok, after I did this preface, I only want to mention the one thing that rubbed me wrong in this whole situation. Instant virtue signalling from the media and all the world about poor Ukraine and evil Russia. Instantly profiles all around social media with yellow blue flags, we stand with Ukraine, solidarity, Onlyfans modes and pornhub caring. Suddenly the people switch from an old narrative to a new one, like everyone knows what's going on in eastern Europe, have taken a side while they don't understand the complexity of the situation and all others who might simply want to discuss in more depth the complexities of what is going in certain Ukranian regions, might be called Putin apologists. Meanwhile a lot of bombardment by images and videos of destruction and poor people, some of them fake news (like showing images and explosions being from the war, but some are footage from years ago, like some gas explosion in China, etc). And I am not saying it's fake, I am not saying war is not happening, but how can I trust the media when it's obviously news trying to sensationalize things towards a certain people.

And the trouble most people will see the news and instantly it's going to be a wave of sensationalization towards certain narratives and everybody suddenly caring fueling the senationalization of certain groups or countries more. It might be more easy to fall into this virtue signaling, with this war as it's obvious which country is the invader and which the invaded and anyone supporting the other side will look obviously bad. But my annoyance here is not whether to support someone (both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers are anyway in shit right now, in fact I'd think the Russian soldiers are more demoralized sent to a war being the bad guys), but how easy the media and social creates a barrage of virtue signalling, and now regular people who might want to discuss might be put in the bad-guy bucket (although I don't think a demoscene forum is the best place).

Because that shit happened with other groups, and most mainstream media dominate one opinion and the other opinion is called far right. Because this virtue signalling and media sensationalization split the regular people in pro covid restrictions and anti lockdowns, and now people are hating each other. Because they were reprogrammed like pavlovian dogs from the mainstream. I'll admit it if you tell me that I was also reprogrammed by the alt right cycles (except I will not accept the are far right or even alt,. because that's a strong accusation, one of the context of my "we are all nazis if you wish" is also that). But that's happening all over the place and it's making me sick. It is a (let's use another recent "dogwhistle") Mass Formation Psychosis. See something sensational on the news, start with the bumper stickers, create a global narrative of good vs bad guys. Where good/bad = the regular people whose opinions support the perceived good/bad in the world.

Sometimes I wonder if I should be writing these things here. But I should own the things I believe. If people post certain stuff, I should tell my opinion, even if I will be on the unpopular side.

Summarize your point (if you have one) in 30 words or less and I'll read that, as long as none of those words are "virtue" or "signalling".

Optimus, your last "I'm leaving" manifesto is almost a year old - if you stand by your principles just gtfo for good.

And I didn't left, I wanted to make demos.

российский военный корабль, пошел нахуй!

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Quite good post by Optimus, typical "answers". And a piggy for the prod.

Russians obviously won't like it.. but I don't care that much.. like it or not.. there will be no sympathy and respect for Putinian Russia and Russians in the Free World. There is only one brave Russian that I personally respect today. The one that was sent to Sybir just because he wanted to come back home.

Luckily at the battleground, there is huge difference between slaves and warriors. Ukrainians are the warriors!

Funny, I can appreciate this prod and fully support its message, but at the same time prefer Optimus to stick around and continue making cool demos rather than to "gtfo". The less-funny part is how that's an utterly foreign notion to too many people these days.

hey, faggots from Gayrope, you are next!

Did not want to open a separate topic, so pardon me.

I wander who gave a right to ban ppl "like that" after "this or that" as an expression.
Too many users perhaps? If there was just few users, I wonder if banning would have been so frequent. Yes, OK, might be the subjects would be less aggressive as well.

Ban, if really needed (oh well), should in my opinion be done temporary (YES) for a week or month. If no "calm attitude" from the person, then we could consider a permanent one.

Besides I see many experts here, many geo(ego?)-politicians, many fighters for freedom.

What PulkoMandy proposed (is an interesting list).

I just spotted that there is a list of political demos, there is few missing I'm aware of like Channel 88 by FUSE and Kaldahar by Amnesty and 911 by Anadune, all Polish

as a ru citizen being totally shocked by such unprecedent aggression, i won't totally agree with your point of view, as escalating the hate is NOT the way to stop that useless war.

and to be honesty, it's all our (both West ignoring pootine imperial ambutions and Russians being unable and somewhat, shamefully, unwilling to stop pootine and seeing how he scorching political field and every public process over at least last 10 years since 2011-'13 protest) fault that we did nothing to halt, and it's our joint responsibility to restore peace

Wbc, it’s fair what you wrote and I wish there was more opinions from RU people like yours, heard and… influential

Optimus is right, we (ordinary peaceful people) don't know a lot about this situation. Many people judge by what media write, and this is 90% fake. And there is a lot of black stuff about Russia, distributed including by order from Ukraine and not only (not from ordinary peaceful people, of course). Perhaps the residents of other countries will not like what I'll say. But the West (I mean primarily the government and the media) has strongly condemned Russia's actions for many years. For any reason. Although let's face it: they are not angels themselves and act only in their own interests, clinging to any reason, just to roll out some new sanction. They don't give a damn about Russia. Although no, they want to weaken Russia, because they don't need a strong Russia. And the situation in Ukraine is important to them only from the point of view of their own interests.

But I am sure that there are many sane people in the West who do not believe everything that is pushed to them. And they do not always agree with the actions of their government. There are also many such people in Russia.

fuck off

Jin X, прости, но ты дебил

One has to be extremely ignorant to believe anything else, especially during war.

JinX, as long as the Russian government suppresses free media and arrests peaceful protesters your statement is just bullshit.

BiTL, раз уж мы перешли на русский, то выражаясь в твоей манере, дебила советую поискать в зеркале. А со мной в таком ключе разговаривать не нужно. Ты меня не знаешь, и я тебя, к счастью, тоже. Но хамская манера твоего общения, в котором нет ничего кроме оскорблений (людей и флага), говорит сама за себя. Такие как ты как раз и разжигают вражду, фашизм и ненависть к своей стране, когда чьи-то слова не совпадает с их "гениальными" умозаключениями. Так что продолжать диалог не вижу смысла.

42Bastian, Serpent, we live in a world of free Internet, not depending on local media, and we can rely on much more extensive data than what is shown on official channels.

ilmenit, firstly, in order to assess the situation, it is necessary to look not only at individual action, but also at their causes. Deep reasons, not just lying on the surface. I am not thrilled with what is happening, believe me, I don't want war and death of either peaceful Ukrainians or Russians (like all sane people). But I don't like the fact that the West considers itself to be angels-benefactors, bringing peace, and Russians – almost fascists, bringing evil and aggression. Secondly, if we talk about humanity, the West is no less aggressive towards Russia. Only this aggression is not military, but economic. The sanctions affect the entire civilian population of Russia (not just the government and oligarchs), who do not touch anyone and want to live in peace. Our prices have soared almost 2 times for most products in a week! And this is not the limit. And it was arranged by the humane, damn, West. Is this normal, in your opinion, in relation to peaceful Russians?

I'm not going to start a feud here and blame each other, because I think we all want world peace. I just urge you to look at things more comprehensively. And at all these political games.

So, is it good or bad to hit everyone who is in the same room with someone who is "trying to murder a child"? We, the civilians who will suffer the most from sanctions, didn't start this war (not 8 days ago, but actually several decades ago, if not earlier). Everything that is happening now didn't begin on February 24 of this year. And not even in 2014. I hope you know that. And this game is played by politicians of a large number of countries. Some are active, others are reactive, others are passive, and others are entering into a favorable moment for them. This is not just a response to the war in Ukraine. Do you seriously think that sanctions will stop the war, and not escalate the conflict?

The sanctions will eventually remove Russia's ability to wage a war like this when the economy grinds to a halt. So yes, they will stop the war. Also, Russia has the option of stopping the imperialist war right now, if it wants to.

Sanctions are a humane version of conflict. Shooting rockets at children, like Russia is doing now in Ukraine, is not.

A very strange humanity that ruins the lives of the civilian population...

Oh the irony.

jin x, oh irony, then poland is main benefactor. we've just taken half a mil of refugees to our homes. yes, homes, not refugee camps.

Jin X, еще раз, ты дебил. И позорище русской демосцены.

As the old Dutch saying goes, "soft surgeons make stinking wounds". Or to put it differently, I'm truly sorry that you and your loved ones might be facing uncertain or (god forbid) violent times ahead in your near futures. However, unfortunately I cannot think of another way to definitively prevent your nation's leadership from also starting to trample all over my own human rights at some point in the future if we do not resist them strongly right now. So yeah, a clash between political systems is now occuring, and all parties involved wield their strongest weapons short of the nuclear non-option. It's a sad state of affairs no matter any sane viewpoint. And there unfortunately seems to be no other way, the only way I can think of to accelerate matters is if the Russian people *somehow* manage to convince their leadership to drastically change it's current course of action. (AKA, Russian people are not the problem but the only real hope for a less terrible solution.)

Russians, this is not hate speech, this is just special operation to raise your awareness about the situation around you. Same like the whole world is not setting sanctions on you and isolating from you. This is just a special financial and political operation to liberate you from unhealthy capitalism, sense of freedom, liberty and other intoxicated ideas of so called West. In fact we all are helping you to come back to simpler life, you ought to prefer for centuries. Enjoy.

As a person from the ex-communist country I would say there is no capitalism there.
We spent so many years under totalitarian leftist system, there are still a lot 'ex' communists in power, in goverment, with they totalitarian way of thinking.
We need more than additional 30 years to be really free from that disease.

We just have to show them that their world can be free, with free speech, free market, free ideas, no fear, without control from that totalitarian side.

You are such funny Europeans - stubbornly repeating the shit that you are fed in the news and stubbornly denying facts that are not worth wasting time stating. We know all the personal data, they were transferred to the FSB, so it is not surprising that many people will be denied access to Russia for negative statements. limenit, better do the Mona Lisa and not this vomit

А что это самарский дед молчит? зассал небось?

Yes, your cries will not stop great Russia

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Limenite, look for a decent woman, the trolls will stop appearing

ilmenit: it's all g0blinish' twinks :)

West Europe said nothing when Russia invaded Georgia, Chechnya, Syria, taken Crimea in 2014. We all said not and did not enough therefore we have 2022 and Russia felt so strong to invade Ukraina with bullshit saying about their special mission to help free from nazi etc.

Destroying civilian targets is a war crime.
Killing civilians is a crime, a war crime.
Raping women is a crime, a war crime.

You can say media lies. Yes, the media lies. Injured people from buried houses that lost their families incoming to Poland also lie. They all lie? Russia just wants to help - seriously anyone follows this logic? over 1 million of Ukrainian citizens escaped their homes. I'm in touch with people being developers in Ukraina - the stories are terrible, terrifying.

Therefore - the Russian army is a set of criminals. And from the captured soldiers there is narration I've read in ss-men trials "it was orders, not my fault".

The biggest problem is that Russia has washed out her citizen's minds. They believe that Putin helps people in Ukraina. Soldiers are surprised that they are not welcomed by happiness. It's that bad. So how do you want to change perception of people in Russia? I know people that escaped from Ukraina and they called their families in Russia and - Russian people cannot believe in what they hear from their family from Ukraina. "It's not possible. We know from TV that the Russian army will help you, it will free you." From what? This narration about nazi in Ukraina - this is an episode from IIWWW.

Why is war, why Russia invaded Ukraina?

Natural deposits. Uran. Titanium. Iron. Natural gas. Ukraina is placed in 1st-3rd on the world list of these natural deposits. So, yes it's all about money - but this time world reacts much better then in 1939.

Someone said it should be stopped by Russia and by Russian citizens. Otherwise, they will be paying for Putin's war. It hits Russian people but also the rest of the world by increasing prices and fear of world war. But - let's be honest, there are too many countries that will not allow Russian to win over Ukraina and take this land. Also because of the money. And because more then anything after all - those who lose will pay.

#supportUkraine

That defence did not work then and it will not work now either. You are responsible for your actions, even if you did them out of fear or whatever.

Oh, and thumb.

NIE WIEDER KRIEG.

You should stop listening to FSB.

im not a person that wants to split the world in "good" and "bad", especially not the people living under a opressive leadership which is feeding them all sorts of propaganda.
what is happenig out there is politically very complex and it didnt start with the invasion of the ukraine. putin seems to be a mad man, completely shifting away from the truth and hanging on to a past long gone.
i dont want a nuclear war, in fact i dont want any war and the best way of making this stop is the russian people, and not the western military nor their weapons, deciding that its time for a real democracy.
i dont want people to die and suffer: no children, no women and also no soldiers - it doesnt matter where they live or what language they speak. i believe in unity, not in drawing lines on a map.

please make it stop and thanks for the message.

Ukraine war

Thank you for this prod, from a citizen of Russian Federation.

2 years later, after Bucha, after killing of Prigozhin and Navalny (putller's personal competitors) - it should be clear to everyone on mother Earth that the only reason for this nightmare is: putler does not want to give up power, he is too afraid to lose power. There is no clever "geo-politics" behind it, just a power-hungry psychopath.