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rulez added on the 2021-01-05 10:22:14 by xeron 
Wow!! Ghandy is back!
A real amiga diskmag, thanks for this lovely gift! *cries of joy*
A real amiga diskmag, thanks for this lovely gift! *cries of joy*
A nice surprise, dudes =).
Will have a read!
@Xeron: A self-vote or an excitation-vote? ;)
Will have a read!
@Xeron: A self-vote or an excitation-vote? ;)
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A self-vote or an excitation-vote?
Xeron coded the diskmag engine (originally used for Devotion) and handed it over to me back in 2002 so it could be updated for Jurassic Pack. So while he is involved as he coded the original mag engine, it is hardly a self-vote in case of JP.
Awwyeah, can't wait to read this!
Yeah I was not involved in JP18
(specifically)
Amiga diskmags FTW! Thank you!
HOT news! Let's read it now!
sweet
Wow, diskmags exist?
Preemptive thumb just for releasing! Will read through it later.
The last article is pure BS, the backpack never worked, MAGIC is still around, I just checked!!!!!
just had an extended morning read of this long-awaited mag. it was great fun! hardly any fillers. and so many interviews! it's hard to pick highlights - but if i had to, then it'd be probably those with norby, yop, and saimo.
please keep it up, guys!
please keep it up, guys!
I'm eager to read it. In the meanwhile, get my thumb up!
So looking forward to a diskmag again on the Amiga, will boot up very shortly on real hardware. Thanks for bringing this! Here is my thumb!
Finally an offline mag!
for the love of diskmags
No waaaaaaaaayayaaaa
Fresh diskmag release, fantastic job. Back to the roots!
Yeah, you guys did it - congratulation and thanks for this nice release! I have started to read the nice and interesting write ups!
Cool a nice new issue for the new year interesting articles i read so far.
What a coincidence !
Two days ago i was just thinking that i missed some new Amiga diskmag.
Two days ago i was just thinking that i missed some new Amiga diskmag.
w00t?!?! What a surprise! Downloading... and starting...
Just took a look into it. Excellent work! Thank you!
A nice surprise! Well done to all involved.
nice articles. I actually read them. Thanks for the info :)
Nice read!!
Cool with the prefs. The music sounds great on my A1200 Blizzard IV.
Thank you :)
Cool with the prefs. The music sounds great on my A1200 Blizzard IV.
Thank you :)
Very pleasant surprise, good work getting this released :)
Ghandy and Novel pulled it off! What an outstanding job to release an offline Amiga magazine in this day and age. Cheers, guys! You rock!
The gfx (the panel, welcomepic, endpic and clipart) are extremely cool! Imho the best JP has ever featured. The engine by Xeron and updated by Stingray is sweet. And I am in love with Okeanos' tune 'Jurassic Funk'. The other 2 tunes by Okeanos and Curt Cool are very nice too. And JP 18 features enough decent articles. I like the interviews particularly. Well, sceners say I can't vote for this release just because I wrote a few bytes for it, so it's a piggy from me, although I really wanted to thumb this production.
The gfx (the panel, welcomepic, endpic and clipart) are extremely cool! Imho the best JP has ever featured. The engine by Xeron and updated by Stingray is sweet. And I am in love with Okeanos' tune 'Jurassic Funk'. The other 2 tunes by Okeanos and Curt Cool are very nice too. And JP 18 features enough decent articles. I like the interviews particularly. Well, sceners say I can't vote for this release just because I wrote a few bytes for it, so it's a piggy from me, although I really wanted to thumb this production.
What Sane said. Plus a thumb.
♥
And now that I have read it, a solid thumbs up - the effort alone deserves that thumb, but it is certainly not the effort alone. Everything featured is up to the great diskmag standards of yesteryear. Good graphics, panels, colourscheme. Very fitting diskmag music, especially the first tune. There are not that many articles, but this is in no way a criticism, it already takes a lot of effort in this day and age to gather and write those that are featured. I find there's a really nice mix of Ghandy's informative, investigative fact-based journalism, the more classic ego/writing-from-my-own-opinions-based-mained pieces of Sane (I mean that in a positive way, that style has always also been near and dear to my heart) and Novel's more in-depth exhaustive writings about things both informative and storybased. So you basically get three styles in one mag, and I really appreciate that, since they're all well-done and serve to highlight the respective strengths of each of them. Let me pick out three specific articles that highlight the width in styles:
"The Making of the Cure by Retream" by Ghandy. Great opportunity spotted right there, of course this deserved an article exploring who this new and interested scener would be. That's exactly what informative/positive scenejournalism should spot and provide an outlet for, very relevant, very news-worthy. Also I see your 'scene-based-non-dividing-journalist-doesn't-go-into-the-political substance' choice and respect it since that follows your line and leaves it up to the reader after getting the information.
"Learning 68k Assembly - Now or Never" by Novel. I could have picked your lengthy and well-written covid-19 influenced party articles, but I extra-liked this informative one that actually helps and stimulates people to find resources and give OCS coding a go. I am also left wondering how your effort went, good cliff-hanger for follow up articles. It'd be cool with more of such articles for scene-inspired people who might need pointers to help to get started in a field. That's also relevant informative journalism, but with a more story/personal angle to motivate the readers personal involvement in the topic. Same method employed in the other articles. I (also) like this bridging between the other two writing styles, you put some meat on the bones and provide a personal angle without opinion-piece-based division or made up stories.
"Short Story - Don't ask Magic" by Sane. Hehe well, it's still ethically not so nice to mildly flame a beaten horse eventhough you also went all in and exposed your psycho-bombloving side, but oh I still enjoyed this article and laughed aloud. Well-written too (as all articles were), you do have funny-bone and good ideas to execute on. Also, there's this very nice (and by now, utterly gone) classic 'arrogant editor with his own opinions' vibe in many/all of your articles that I feel right at home in, though certainly scaled down to a less edgy version since the glory days of RAW++. But this one felt like coming home to something that was very mid-nineties, the well-written imaginary story with real sceners put in to have fun with. Maybe catering to a select and super-small audience, but that audience was also me, so hey, most memorable article for the chuckles and topic.
But overall it's great seeing this width and spread of articles and styles on one mag, especially considering that there for obvious reasons are not many articles.
So yeah, thumbs up, but also a somewhat lengthy former/fallen main-ed review because hey, editors like that, and you deserve it for the effort. I'm glad you got this together and it was very well-done all around.
"The Making of the Cure by Retream" by Ghandy. Great opportunity spotted right there, of course this deserved an article exploring who this new and interested scener would be. That's exactly what informative/positive scenejournalism should spot and provide an outlet for, very relevant, very news-worthy. Also I see your 'scene-based-non-dividing-journalist-doesn't-go-into-the-political substance' choice and respect it since that follows your line and leaves it up to the reader after getting the information.
"Learning 68k Assembly - Now or Never" by Novel. I could have picked your lengthy and well-written covid-19 influenced party articles, but I extra-liked this informative one that actually helps and stimulates people to find resources and give OCS coding a go. I am also left wondering how your effort went, good cliff-hanger for follow up articles. It'd be cool with more of such articles for scene-inspired people who might need pointers to help to get started in a field. That's also relevant informative journalism, but with a more story/personal angle to motivate the readers personal involvement in the topic. Same method employed in the other articles. I (also) like this bridging between the other two writing styles, you put some meat on the bones and provide a personal angle without opinion-piece-based division or made up stories.
"Short Story - Don't ask Magic" by Sane. Hehe well, it's still ethically not so nice to mildly flame a beaten horse eventhough you also went all in and exposed your psycho-bombloving side, but oh I still enjoyed this article and laughed aloud. Well-written too (as all articles were), you do have funny-bone and good ideas to execute on. Also, there's this very nice (and by now, utterly gone) classic 'arrogant editor with his own opinions' vibe in many/all of your articles that I feel right at home in, though certainly scaled down to a less edgy version since the glory days of RAW++. But this one felt like coming home to something that was very mid-nineties, the well-written imaginary story with real sceners put in to have fun with. Maybe catering to a select and super-small audience, but that audience was also me, so hey, most memorable article for the chuckles and topic.
But overall it's great seeing this width and spread of articles and styles on one mag, especially considering that there for obvious reasons are not many articles.
So yeah, thumbs up, but also a somewhat lengthy former/fallen main-ed review because hey, editors like that, and you deserve it for the effort. I'm glad you got this together and it was very well-done all around.
Upvoting already only for the beautiful thumbnail here on Pouet - haven´t been able to check contents yet (if you wrote something offending against me I gonna downvote next episode instead). :-P
Feels like time travelling back into my youth.
Thanks for keeping the diskmag spirit alive.
Feels like time travelling back into my youth.
Thanks for keeping the diskmag spirit alive.
A wonderful return to the demoscene after many years! Great magazine, congratulations!
Managed to get this run. Enjoyed every bit of it <3
I second to what Virgill had said
Enjoying reading it just now, thanks!
PS. btw it works perfectly on Uae4Arm @ my phone =)
PS. btw it works perfectly on Uae4Arm @ my phone =)
Enjoying these interviews immensely! So many fun stories.. just one example to whet your appetite in case you didn't open this mag already:
"Nobody wanted to pay for phone calls
I heard that .... is related to a leading manager of the Polish Minister for Telecommunications, which is why he was allowed to make free calls. They finally busted him one day. However, when they searched him, the police thought that his Amiga was a typewriter. They only looked for MS-DOS PCs and left everything there at his home..."
And that F2 track by Okeanos is really catchy!
"Nobody wanted to pay for phone calls
I heard that .... is related to a leading manager of the Polish Minister for Telecommunications, which is why he was allowed to make free calls. They finally busted him one day. However, when they searched him, the police thought that his Amiga was a typewriter. They only looked for MS-DOS PCs and left everything there at his home..."
And that F2 track by Okeanos is really catchy!
Nice Facet interview! And I especially liked the 2nd song.. great guitars..
(and also hearing a new PreTracker tune is always special to me :)
(and also hearing a new PreTracker tune is always special to me :)
Amazing to see new diskmags! Thank you so much for this.
Great stuff, but i have no clue, why i cant it to run any emulator i tried so far. Does this mag have a emulator detector and only works on real hardware?
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Great stuff, but i have no clue, why i cant it to run any emulator i tried so far. Does this mag have a emulator detector and only works on real hardware?
It does run in winuae. Even I managed to do that (as my A1200 is being recapped now).
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Great stuff, but i have no clue, why i cant it to run any emulator i tried so far. Does this mag have a emulator detector and only works on real hardware?
It runs fine in WinUAE and other Amiga emulators. You need to run at least SetPatch before starting the mag. The mag also requires at least 8-bit screens and 68020+ CPU.
Which emulator settings did you use?
good job, I enjoyed the interviews especially!
if I may come with a request - how about some behind the scenes articles? like e.g. Facet tips for pixel art, Slide tips for music making etc?
if I may come with a request - how about some behind the scenes articles? like e.g. Facet tips for pixel art, Slide tips for music making etc?
It has an emulator detector, but it doesn't prevent you from running the mag. The trick is to "proceed at your own risk".
I'm curious how the emulator detection works!
I'm curious how the emulator detection works!
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I'm curious how the emulator detection works!
By using a simple prefetch cache trick (which worked fine back then but nowadays is not reliable anymore). I'll either remove the emulator check completely for the next issue or do it without relying on features which aren't emulated correctly.
Code:
*******************************************
*** EMULATOR CHECK ***
*******************************************
; checks if running on an emulator like WinUAE and displays a
; warning requester if an emulator is detected
CheckUAE
lea .mod(pc),a0
move.w #$7001,(a0)
.mod moveq #0,d0
beq.b .amiga
; emulator detected, display warning requester
lea .txt(pc),a0
lea .but(pc),a1
lea .ttl(pc),a2
bsr Requester
rts
.amiga moveq #1,d0
rts
.ttl dc.b "Attention!",0
.txt dc.b "Emulator detected! Proceed at your own risk!",0
.but dc.b "Understood|QUIT",0
CNOP 0,4
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Great stuff, but i have no clue, why i cant it to run any emulator i tried so far. Does this mag have a emulator detector and only works on real hardware?
I used wb3.1 + classic wb @ as real as possible hw emulation with 030, ks3.1. Both winuae and uae4droid worked fine.
Maybe unpacking on PC was the problem, I used dopus 4.x under amiga os.
Thanx for this lovely issue, Diskmag RulezZ!
Please contact me in case you still have problems with executing Jurassic Pack. It runs even on FS UAE on macOS. But however, you'll have to start setpatch or the complete workbench before you run the beast.
And thanks a lot for your kind words. That's quite motivating for all of us! Next issue will come out during X-Mas 2021 or January 2022.
And thanks a lot for your kind words. That's quite motivating for all of us! Next issue will come out during X-Mas 2021 or January 2022.
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you'll have to start setpatch or the complete workbench
SetPatch is required, full workbench is not. The engine happily runs if SetPatch has been run. In case of problems it may also help to start the preferences program to select the desired screen and audio modes.
Great to see this Diskmag is back!
I have updated the engine and added a check if Setpatch has been run. Jurassic Pack should now always display an appropriate error message if at least the required libraries could be opened.
Those having problems running Jurassic Pack should try the updated engine, which can be found here.
I have also used this occasion to remove the emulator check. :)
Those having problems running Jurassic Pack should try the updated engine, which can be found here.
I have also used this occasion to remove the emulator check. :)
Wow, they are still alive! Long live Amiga scene!
A new issue of Jurassic Pack — what a pleasant surprise and a good read!
Now it works - awesome works StingRay
Thx StingRay!
One little nitpick...or let´s call it a suggestion to improve next issue:
I wasn´t even aware there were more than one music-tracks (maybe i just enjoyed the 1st one that much, so i forgot having read about multiple tracks before!)...
...so maybe implement a music-rotation:
whenever a track ends play next track
whenever all tracks have been played, repeat playlist!
(maybe it has that feature already, but either it didn´t work for me, or i just didn´t realize the tracks changing, as they all sounded like one long song in the end?!)
I wasn´t even aware there were more than one music-tracks (maybe i just enjoyed the 1st one that much, so i forgot having read about multiple tracks before!)...
...so maybe implement a music-rotation:
whenever a track ends play next track
whenever all tracks have been played, repeat playlist!
(maybe it has that feature already, but either it didn´t work for me, or i just didn´t realize the tracks changing, as they all sounded like one long song in the end?!)
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wasn´t even aware there were more than one music-tracks
It's mentioned in the "Help" how to change tunes. And if you have a look at the panel there sure is something to see that might have to do with music selection too.
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so maybe implement a music-rotation
As this is a diskmag and not a music disk I don't think I'll spend time implementing this. Especially considered that it really is not that hard to change the tunes by either pressing the F-keys to select the tunes directly or using "m" or the panel to open the menu selector.
Lovely well crafted mag by skillful people!
StingRay: ok, got you, fair!
to unpack on pc just use 7zip, as it knows about lha/lzh/etc.
this way it will run in UAE for sure!
to unpack on pc just use 7zip, as it knows about lha/lzh/etc.
this way it will run in UAE for sure!
Well done, and congratulations on the effort!
nice mag, read a bunch of articles already
Oh! Yes!
enjoying the good read. thank you very much!
Which setup shall be chosen to make this work with WinUAE?
@Adok You will have to run a Kickstart rom 3.X (not below!). Execute setpatch before you try to run JP or follow the instructions from StingRay above. The engine also runs perfectly with FSUAE (emulator for macOS).
With Kickstart 1.3 I got no response when running one of the executables. With Kickstart 3.1 I get the error message "Couldn't load libraries". I set the directory where Jurassic Pack #18 is stored to hdd0:.
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With Kickstart 1.3 I got no response when running one of the executables.
Jurassic Pack needs at least V39 (Kickstart 3.0) to run.
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With Kickstart 3.1 I get the error message "Couldn't load libraries". I set the directory where Jurassic Pack #18 is stored to hdd0:.
Jurassic Pack opens graphics, dos, intuition and asl.library, you most probably lack the latter one as it's the only one which is loaded from disk. What happens when you type "version asl.library" in a shell?
I get "Error in Open".
"Error in Open" is the 1.3 error message, again, Jurassic Pack needs at least OS 3.0 to run! And you lack the asl.library, copy it to the "Libs" directory of your system partition and you should be able to run Jurassic Pack.
Oh yes!
Finally I poured myself a glass of whisky, turned on my Amiga and read some newspaper ;) Cool journey back in time. I especially enjoyed the interviews with the graphic artists. Thanks you guys - great job!
Excellent! Just enjoying this mag.
An Amiga diskmag in 2021! Fantastic!! Great work!!
You can now read all articles from JP#18 online. But please be warned: Of course it's not the same feeling as starting the diskmag on a real machine or emulator.
This is just awesome. Great that Jurassic is back after all these years. This was a splendid issue, and could have been released in the glory days of diskmags back in the 90s. I am already waiting for the next issue from Ghandy. It's not often we get our hands on quality Amiga diskmags nowadays.
Finally read all the articles great diskmag its nice to read them on a old commodore 1084 monitor nostalgia.
Superb to see JP back after 12 years! Really enjoyed the feel, quality and nostalgia of this prod and its just a shame I had to run it under emulation.
Hopefully Ghandy will stay motivated enough to carry on. Excellent work!
Hopefully Ghandy will stay motivated enough to carry on. Excellent work!
Just finished all the articles. Quite possibly one of the most interesting mags ever. Enjoyed the collectors article by Curt Cool, the Berlin club article by Novel. At the end there was even a “diskmag editors on diskmag editors” finale article too as is tradition. It was setting up the Diskmag editor avengers end game with a huge group of editors assembling gathered by Sane.. Yet I felt it fizzled out.. eager to know the conclusion which is not quite spelled out
Preparations for the next issue are ongoing, but you will have to wait until Winter 2021 for issue 19. We had to drop our idea of a Summer issue. Support of all kind is of course still more than welcome! You want a new issue? So do something and help us, please!
New diskmag release on Amiga +1
Please motivate Sane in supporting the next issue
I miss his passion currently..
Ghandy u might be a criticaster on fb for me
But respect for bringing back the disk into diskmag on the amiga!
Please motivate Sane in supporting the next issue
I miss his passion currently..
Ghandy u might be a criticaster on fb for me
But respect for bringing back the disk into diskmag on the amiga!
I just came back to revisit some of the articles. This is still high quality! When we can expect new issue? I have an article drafted which can be shared with you guys. Light a torch.. share a signal!
@hollowone: The deadline for the next issue which is probably the last issue ever (?) is in two weeks. Please write a mail to Lsobiraj AT protonmail dot com. Thanks!
Deadline has passed, thanks to all the contributors for their faith in us!
Forgotten thumb, keep it up!
Thanks. I was not exactly thinking to contribute yet, but to consume for sure! Hopefully this won’t be the last!
And my drafts will have more time to get polished! :) fucking tricky year. Very mind boggling
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