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Looked Amazing on the stream. Have to check this on my pc tomorrow! Great work pixtur!
rulez added on the 2015-03-20 03:22:50 by magic 
Just to clarify: I didn't do any design on that one. Alex is to blame.
Amazing, I'm awestruck.
not exactly sure where this is supposed to take me but it really look 10 times as impressive in realtime as on the stream.
alx rulez.
alx rulez.
weird and wonderful, cosmology baby!
oh this is great!
Awesome! The screenshot totally does not do it justice!
Extremely awesome!
magnificent
Video plz.
Looked good on the stream, but amazing in realtime (my god it's good to have a demo-capable PC again). Loved the music, sfx and sync. Graphics also awesome. Scenes conveyed a real sense of scale. Would love to see some of them in a VR environment.
cool one... good efx and sound...
the demo manages to take you away for some minutes ...at work now and totally forgot about this while i was watching the demo...
the demo manages to take you away for some minutes ...at work now and totally forgot about this while i was watching the demo...
YouTube please!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Coronoid+Still+youtube
Pure awesome.
<3 probably the best demo in a long while! beautiful flow and transitions
cool, as alx is now doing design and pixi the coding I can relaxed lean back in my retirement chair and say: great work guys! ;)
Best Still demo since and after Passing? This was inspired by Interstellar, right? First of all nice soundtrack, particularly the first minute and a half, but beyond that it felt like it was trying to abide to the direction too much making its progression feel unnatural. The explosion/collision motif also beyond the first occurrence felt a bit jarring and contrived, because it completely halted the nice progression the demo managed to build up until each one. The demo-format is too short imo to have everything reset in one minute intervals, so I was basically left expecting something at least twice as long because the demo felt like just an intro to something even greater. A lot of great moments inbetween though, very pretty and all that jazz, loved the texture on the orange-brown rock thingy in the first half. I would've hoped perhaps a bit more attention to the backgrounds, but then again it might have caused too much clutter. One more nitpick I have is once again those polygon particles which I just can't get excited of, but I don't think those have ever been this good before.
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Great
holy crapbucket that was awesome, sync-demo to rule them all! \o/ Great direction, brilliantly clean music!
:U
whow !!!! cinematic seems like video pure beauty. i thought about interstellar at viewing it. there are moments of pure beauty. thanx a lot for making it, one of my fav demos from all times. thanx a lot :)
Awesome in every way!
That's simple but great synced.
very nice. just when it would become boring and uninteresting (around the middle of the demo), here comes the pixtur's color palette of blue and purple, and instantly everything is okay again. :)) water canyon scene is just awesome.
A perfect demo. This demo is not to be judged, it is to be admired.
I'm gonna have to rewatch that at work on a powerful computer. Love it anyway !
Wow.
nice idea, some great looking but the overall miss some dynamism
It's very ambitious and like noby I was expecting something much longer or I don't know;
That said, it's pure beauty all the way long, the transitions are awesome, and the soundtrack fits perfecty.
That said, it's pure beauty all the way long, the transitions are awesome, and the soundtrack fits perfecty.
Yeah, this is really good
excellent
Superb.
zomg! some kind of exiting a black hole and exploding into a new universe!
This was just beautiful, awesome work in all departments.
YES! This is so fucking brilliant! Congratulations with making one of the best demoscene prods i have ever seen! This is simply extremely elegant storytelling with very interesting motions(!) and incredible visuals coupled perfectly to a highly fitting soundtrack. I am super stoked right now. Thanks!
I am totally speechless °___°
Wow! Registered just to thumb up.
Also, Calcifer and this demo seem to be united by one idea. Is it going to be a trilogy?
Also, Calcifer and this demo seem to be united by one idea. Is it going to be a trilogy?
In lack of words (everything already said), i'll just leave this here ;)
Everything - from the soundtrack (which is a stellar bit of sound design/music) to the visuals (gorgeous), to the flow and design is brilliant.
bravo, best thing I've seen demoscene wise for absolutely ages.
<3
bravo, best thing I've seen demoscene wise for absolutely ages.
<3
Ok this was massive
the build up and sound direction is immense.
Bloody hell Tom! That's instantly going on the "Stuff to play non-sceners" playlist! JCO's soundtrack is stunning, great sound design. just.. rghajghj.. ARGGH!!
MOM, PLEASE
Very cool!
perfect prod
wow
awesome work. love the sync of the sounds with the visual direction.
awesome work. love the sync of the sounds with the visual direction.
Unusual, tight, impressive.
nice demo with nice music runed by cheesy, pathetic, hollywood second part.
Very nice demo and love the matching details in the soundtrack.
love it!
The cheesy, pathetic, hollywood second part is awesome. I really like the last scenes of this demo, they are just awesome stylewise.
And ofcourse a thumb!
Epic!
wow, stunning job here. Masterpiece!
Pretty ok. LOL. NO, IT ROCKS!
MOAR!!
Beauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutiful!
simply wonderful!
looks so much cooler and supposedly has much less budget than the latest space mission from india! and congratulations jco for being the scenes amon tobin now! awesome demo! one point of criticisim: why do there always have to be tiny winged creatures?
Just wow :)
Really, really pretty. I love it.
Pretty!!
Synch! Nice effect!
this is really a good demo!
Synch! Nice effect!
this is really a good demo!
That was.. impressive... Very amazing!
Alex, this was beautiful. Completely coherent and whole although I still don't know why exactly. I don't even.
Now go get some HDR(+PBR) already :)
Now go get some HDR(+PBR) already :)
Hollywood is calling! Superb!
I quite hate you now...
Whoa.
Great production!
Хорошо. Работает AMD ASUS R9 270x ( 14.12 ) :)
OMFFJGGGGJGJGJGKJGKGJ that climax tho!! :D:D:D:D
i would've liked to see this on a bigscreen, instead of with laptop speakers and laptop 15" screen. via youtube.
That was a great experience!
Great show! Wow!
Thank You, Still!
Thank You, Still!
for the wow moments
Best Still demo since finally inside; Very polished, good build-up, attention to details, and a soundtrack that makes a good red carpet.
Thank you very much for this piece of code. Words cannot describe the beauty of this.....
btw music in the second part was FUCKING awful.
make a demo about it
Damn! Good job!
Very cool
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really well conducted, music is awesome
super cool, i loved it (especially on the big screen)
Bit big, but good use of the tool and a PC demo with sync that doesn't lag behind for a change :)
Also, I like space and the music which is designed to fit the visuals. :) More demos should do that, even though nothing at all has to be synced really for that to work. Cool!
Also, I like space and the music which is designed to fit the visuals. :) More demos should do that, even though nothing at all has to be synced really for that to work. Cool!
This feels like a new milestone in demo design. Cinematic, and yet unmistakably a product of the demoscene.
good music.
Not sure what this was all about :) ...but it's very nice. Music/sound is a bit empty imo and the "tri-polys only" really ruined it for me :(
O_o--b
it was pleasant to look
Interesting different take on a demo (almost feels interactive).
I'm not fun of the "you unlocked level 10-weapon"'ish sounds, but otherwise the looks and sound good, and keeps being interesting after several times watching it.
I'm not fun of the "you unlocked level 10-weapon"'ish sounds, but otherwise the looks and sound good, and keeps being interesting after several times watching it.
yeah, hmm... flying explosion triangles, I loathe them. The last part is exceptional, but falls way short of a masterpiece (see last few still demos) due to short runtime and some disconnection between scenes.
Are these physics balls from farbrausch box of toys?
Are these physics balls from farbrausch box of toys?
nice (and even better with a few manual pushes :)
Holy Still ...
Amazing sound design! Cool motion design as well.
Very solid (music/video synced) prod as classic Amiga demos were.
Very solid (music/video synced) prod as classic Amiga demos were.
What a thrill!
Starfieldi oli alussa ok, sit alko taas ettii wow efektii, jota ei tullut.
Enjoyable, almost like a short film the way the soundtrack and visuals and synced. I wanted something else for the end, but as a whole it's good. Though, a bit of "I've seen all this so many times and I'm so sick of it already".
First part was like "okay" but second part is awesome and sound effects and sync makes it really trippy.
I wish it was longer and had more "synched chaos" but love it anyway, kudos!
Fucking uberawesome. A great demo.
Whoaaaaaa :-)'
This has put a grin on my face for the whole duration. I don't understand any of it but I'm blissfully following it, and the final is magnificent.
Too bad I had to see it on Youtube though, as it crashes my graphics driver after the explosion at around 3'00.
This has put a grin on my face for the whole duration. I don't understand any of it but I'm blissfully following it, and the final is magnificent.
Too bad I had to see it on Youtube though, as it crashes my graphics driver after the explosion at around 3'00.
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A thumb down for Navis' comments. It sounds pretty snob.
A thumb up for this amazing piece of demo which is just breathtaking.
Thank you.
A thumb up for this amazing piece of demo which is just breathtaking.
Thank you.
"... is not a valid Win32 application." error on my very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 box. It wasn't bad on YouTube.
snob because I dont like triangle explosions? come on, its easy to see that a) they look cheap, especially when they are long and nasty b) break the 3d illusion - you had a solid sphere and now oops we make it explode and guess what, it was a shell after all, empty of matter c) dont get me started on how it looks when you add additive blending on top of that mess. It works some times, very rarely, but not this way.
AntDude: I have no idea how you expect any reasonably modern PC demo to work on XP (and likely 10+ year old hardware to match). Not to mention the security hazard that an unsupported OS implies. It's time to move on. :)
A thumb up for Navis' comments.
Additionally I'm tired of low-quality stuff hidden behind "artistic artifacts" and "cool" glitches, like come on, really?
Additionally I'm tired of low-quality stuff hidden behind "artistic artifacts" and "cool" glitches, like come on, really?
This demo make me post again….Amazing!!
Made me wish be a good math coder…and to speak English!
Made me wish be a good math coder…and to speak English!
I didn't enjoy it - most likely because of the fact it kind of lacks any significant pace at all. However, lots of work must have gone into the design, which I always appreciate - hence a piggy.
This was made for the big screen!
Definitely going on my "demoscene promotional playlist".
Definitely going on my "demoscene promotional playlist".
It has some 828 vibes although it's far from being that gloomy. And it's not as perfect.
The aesthetics and direct remind me more of motion graphics videos than traditional PC demos, even more than with the previous Still demos. So kudos for breaking new(ish) ground in the demoscene. Additionally, the execution is definitely more than solid for what it is.
Great production which I really want to love, but overall it's not what I'm looking for when watching demos.
Great production which I really want to love, but overall it's not what I'm looking for when watching demos.
Very good!
liked it very much, amazing ending.
just out of curiosity, it was all time #1337 when i posted this comment. =)
just out of curiosity, it was all time #1337 when i posted this comment. =)
An epic of epic epicness.
Nice. Better than the invite imo.
Lovely music/sync. Beautiful visuals. rulez
amaze-balls
Beautiful!
Excellent!
Fantastic, this is how modern 64k intros should look like!
Majestic! I love every second of it.
Okay.
i like this a lot! it has an epic touch and it really pushes the demoscene forward.
although i have to admit, that concepts like this are nothing new in fields like motion graphics etc.
i go for the music too - except the cheesy kettle drum part (reminds me of second reality).
although i have to admit, that concepts like this are nothing new in fields like motion graphics etc.
i go for the music too - except the cheesy kettle drum part (reminds me of second reality).
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Fantastic, this is how modern 64k intros should look like!
Agreed. If only we could get them to sound this good.
/me bows down...
Still wont ever stop to amaze me !
Wish I had some hires shots to get wallpapers :)
Still wont ever stop to amaze me !
Wish I had some hires shots to get wallpapers :)
okay, so that's jaw dropping
omg the audio! Wow!!
I like that this is not typical 08/15 demo material and instead explores "new" territory (well, new for the scene at least, which is a bit sad). Plus, the sound is fantastic! And nice sync, although the concept of the demo lends itself well to that.
But the garish colors in the first third and the horrible triangles (as others mentioned before) drag this down a lot for me.
Overall still a thumb up of course.
But the garish colors in the first third and the horrible triangles (as others mentioned before) drag this down a lot for me.
Overall still a thumb up of course.
kunstscheiss
wow, this really cries out for a continuation. I loved it.
Fantastic sound, fantastic visuals, fantastic worlds. Fantastic synesthesia between the different elements, fantastic direction.
It took my breath away. This is probably my favorite demo in the last 10 years or so.
It took my breath away. This is probably my favorite demo in the last 10 years or so.
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This is probably my favorite demo in the last 10 years or so.
I didn't give thumb down, because I appreciate the effort of developing a tool, plus in hands of some experienced artist (alx) overall it's not so terrible terrible.
But I just cannot stand a comment like this, also by a well respected demomaker as Preacher is.
Seriously, it looks to me like a first try of a tool - I think even authors know they could do better than this. And you guys are into "let's be positive" trip or something?
I watched it again after your comment. And well... this is the first demo in ages that gives me a proper kind of a synesthetic feeling of sound linked with visual. I don't really care the technical aspects, or even have the ability to judge any more what is technically good or not. It just takes me to worlds and places and I get butterflies in my stomach. A lot of what it does is kind of unexpected, the different scenes are connected in a way that somehow makes sense for me, especially in the end. That's what demos are about for me. Or were, once.
It gave me the feeling like I had when I was a kid when I saw cool things for the first time, or that I still get sometimes when I discover a truly great band, or read a particularly stunning poem, or stand on the beach looking towards the distant ocean.
I haven't written many lines of code as a hobby for over a year or so, but this made me want to do it again. And oh yeah, the thumb.
It gave me the feeling like I had when I was a kid when I saw cool things for the first time, or that I still get sometimes when I discover a truly great band, or read a particularly stunning poem, or stand on the beach looking towards the distant ocean.
I haven't written many lines of code as a hobby for over a year or so, but this made me want to do it again. And oh yeah, the thumb.
@Preacher: sure, I understand, you didn't write many lines of code for a while, so you are excused ;) But even credits says it "started as a test".
I can agree that artistic direction is interesting, by I take into account that it was alx behind it, and as I checked out his other prods he can do way better than this.
Another thing is he is using a decent tool, so he can tweak parameters as long as he pleases - which is a good thing, but as long as there is a technical depth behind it!
And this is exactly what I am missing here and what is differentiating (to me) demoscene productions from say non-realtime motion graphics.
If I turn off my right-brain-hemisphere and rely only on the left one, it's not so terrible, but I have both fully activated, ok?
I can agree that artistic direction is interesting, by I take into account that it was alx behind it, and as I checked out his other prods he can do way better than this.
Another thing is he is using a decent tool, so he can tweak parameters as long as he pleases - which is a good thing, but as long as there is a technical depth behind it!
And this is exactly what I am missing here and what is differentiating (to me) demoscene productions from say non-realtime motion graphics.
If I turn off my right-brain-hemisphere and rely only on the left one, it's not so terrible, but I have both fully activated, ok?
pixtur makes demos almost the same way as the god created everything around us.
Yes, let's keep debating whose subjective point of view is correct!
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the demo manages to take you away for some minutes ...at work now and totally forgot about this while i was watching the demo...
This quote makes my day.
@tomkh: The complains about the triangles just make me smile. If you think demoscene is only about "technical depth", well that's a perfectly valid point of view. If you had any track-record, I might even agree. I'm personally more into the diversity of the scene. If a demo actually provokes Navis into writting any comment, the mission is almost accomplished. I'm really looking forward to his upcoming stuff.
And of course I'm also looking forward to your upcoming release. Maybe we can have a beer at revision and you can show me, what you're working on. :-)
@pixtur: I didn't mean disrespect. My comments has nothing to do with a tool.
Just, I want to enjoy the demo aesthethically and at the same time be pleasently surprised or even excited about new/unusual rendering/procedural generation technique etc... And to be honest, particle effects (even if plenty), explosions and a mesh deformed by a noise are not exactly a novelty for me - but maybe I am missing something here?
Just, I want to enjoy the demo aesthethically and at the same time be pleasently surprised or even excited about new/unusual rendering/procedural generation technique etc... And to be honest, particle effects (even if plenty), explosions and a mesh deformed by a noise are not exactly a novelty for me - but maybe I am missing something here?
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Yes, let's keep debating whose subjective point of view is correct!
Yes, please! I like hearing about other subjective points of view, as I often learn something that way. :-)
wait, the design-demo vs tech-demo debate is still a thing? :D
thanks for the great feedback on the soundtrack! as a sidenote, my first draft of that "second part" had distorted electric guitars in it (there were no visuals yet during that development phase). luckily alx suggested doing something else instead ;)
thanks for the great feedback on the soundtrack! as a sidenote, my first draft of that "second part" had distorted electric guitars in it (there were no visuals yet during that development phase). luckily alx suggested doing something else instead ;)
@jco: it's not, apparently and obviously design wins big time, it's just a sentiment to old and even non-existing times when pure-tech ruled the world.
Also, sorry for maybe being to harsh, what you did is good, just IMHO you could do a little bit more on a tech-side (hint: Fairlight, even Cocoon lately, where is some advanced lighting stuff? some volumetric stuff? some fluids? anything?).
But of course it's your choice, if you don't care about tech-savvy audience and this is not your target audience - fine for me. As pixtur said - variety is good. Apparently many people love it, I'm totally ok with that. Sorry again, for picking the "wrong channel on a TV set" then ;)
Also, sorry for maybe being to harsh, what you did is good, just IMHO you could do a little bit more on a tech-side (hint: Fairlight, even Cocoon lately, where is some advanced lighting stuff? some volumetric stuff? some fluids? anything?).
But of course it's your choice, if you don't care about tech-savvy audience and this is not your target audience - fine for me. As pixtur said - variety is good. Apparently many people love it, I'm totally ok with that. Sorry again, for picking the "wrong channel on a TV set" then ;)
(ironically it has won on NVScene, but who cares, right)
I saw it live at the party. They should have sent a poet. This was goddamn brilliant.
tomkh: in my book a demo doesn't need to be technically groundbreaking to work well. in this case the wow factor comes from the tight sync of the visual and sound design. yes, it's not new in the world, but it's fresh in the demoscene, atleast to me, and quite a few others it seems, it felt refreshing. if you think this is something you could easily done with any demotool, by all means please make a demo about it, i'd love to see something like this done even better.
OK, this is an absolute beauty most of the time. Too bad the massively self-intersecting, coder-colored triangle-soup that appears at 0:33 kind of ruins the fun for me. The rest of the demo is so awesome, it's quite sad that it needs to make up for that my-first-opengl-experiment. It does manage that, though. But it makes the total way less awesome than the rest of the demo deserves.
Pixtur: i read your comment. Ok than good work 1x ! :)
Does that mean your new mega demo will be at Revision? :)
Does that mean your new mega demo will be at Revision? :)
@psenough: It definitely opens up a discussion and is a hint for other demomakers to maybe actually put even more effort into design, tooling, compositing etc... AFAIK usual demotools (I'm not that much of a fan, but I've seen some 64k, werk-zueg etc..) have very basic event synchronization, curve editing, etc... so yeah - we can do better here! And this is a good example.
Which is a kind of optimistic conclusion.
And guys, I don't hate it and I didn't thumb this down, just I think it is not yet "there" and I think you could possibly create something way better in the future and for a bigger audience, i.e. by adding more tech-stuff.
Which is a kind of optimistic conclusion.
And guys, I don't hate it and I didn't thumb this down, just I think it is not yet "there" and I think you could possibly create something way better in the future and for a bigger audience, i.e. by adding more tech-stuff.
Just a technical question:
what tool are you using (if using one)? is it a version of the tool from Fr where you have more freedom to do your own effects etc? is any hardcore lowlevel programming happening here? and is it the same for all still demos (like beta and intrinsic gravity that are very different?)
what tool are you using (if using one)? is it a version of the tool from Fr where you have more freedom to do your own effects etc? is any hardcore lowlevel programming happening here? and is it the same for all still demos (like beta and intrinsic gravity that are very different?)
ah also, when all is said and done...
what is interesting and really great about this piece is that it shows what happens when a top quality designer gets his hands on (good quality and well-made) "standard demo" equipment and spends a load of time, care and effort with it: they make it awesome.
amazing work on the sound design as well.
i agree about triangle explosions in general although i think here they worked better than in previous still demos, but i do think the piece lost its way a bit in the middle in the cycle of explosions - but it found it again for the great landscape at the end.
what is perhaps sad about this is that it shows up many "coders trying to design" like myself for what we are: coders, covering up our lack of design abilities with technology, when we should have just dialed back and made proper use of what was already sat in front of us (if only we could).
amazing work on the sound design as well.
i agree about triangle explosions in general although i think here they worked better than in previous still demos, but i do think the piece lost its way a bit in the middle in the cycle of explosions - but it found it again for the great landscape at the end.
what is perhaps sad about this is that it shows up many "coders trying to design" like myself for what we are: coders, covering up our lack of design abilities with technology, when we should have just dialed back and made proper use of what was already sat in front of us (if only we could).
Navis: http://tooll.io/
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If a demo actually provokes Navis into writting any comment, the mission is almost accomplished. I'm really looking forward to his upcoming stuff.
funny thing that, when the time comes you'll see many similarities between Coronoid and our new demo - and this must be down to pure chance (as it has almost been finished already). Still not sure about the music - maybe it is a good idea to shift to more sound fx based, who knows.. time will tell.
BTW I must have missed that...
Thanks for using your popularity as an argument and not even checking if I actually have any track-record. It's not much, I agree, but I try my best, in a "coder do everything" spirit, so obviously, not as popular as some celebrities over here.
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If you think demoscene is only about "technical depth", well that's a perfectly valid point of view. If you had any track-record, I might even agree.
Thanks for using your popularity as an argument and not even checking if I actually have any track-record. It's not much, I agree, but I try my best, in a "coder do everything" spirit, so obviously, not as popular as some celebrities over here.
And to be more precise: I kind of trying to follow @Navis and @smash over here (when they did all the code+most design, and maybe added some music on top), of course not as good results (yet), but it kinds of bothers me that they start to lose faith in "one man show" ;)
I dont loose faith in one man shows, but part of the charm is to work with others. Tomkh: are you by any chance the guy behind suboceanic (or something like that) , a 64k from asm 2005? I remember that I was rather impressed...
@Navis: sure, it's me, thanks. I just realized proper credits was not added to it (already sent a request to pouet). I didn't do much on a demoscene since then - usual reasons, life, job etc... except recently playing with 3d fractal surfaces (it's not working in real-time, yet ;))
nice explosions and stuff but it doesnt feel to getting anywhere.. point a -> point b you know, last part was nice and the blueish one: kind of 2001 space odyssey feeling to it.
It was a bit odd, I like that.
I first watched the demo muted, and thought to myself "that doesn't look good."
Now I watched the demo again with sound and was completely blown away. The way that the graphics are tied to the sound is simply amazing.
Now I watched the demo again with sound and was completely blown away. The way that the graphics are tied to the sound is simply amazing.
@smash:
Now that discussion again. it's even worse than my argument. This implies that things are set in stone: I will never be able to write a decent raymarcher. You would never be able to nicely balance pace and concept. However, extrapolating from your last releases your design skill develop with scary speed. (Some is sadly not true for my understanding for compute shaders).
@tomkh: Sorry about my earlier comment. This is was layover in Hearthrow does to you.
@navis: So I can expect this for revision?! Now you have me on the hook!
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what is perhaps sad about this is that it shows up many "coders trying to design" like myself for what we are: coders, covering up our lack of design abilities with technology, when we should have just dialed back and made proper use of what was already sat in front of us (if only we could).
Now that discussion again. it's even worse than my argument. This implies that things are set in stone: I will never be able to write a decent raymarcher. You would never be able to nicely balance pace and concept. However, extrapolating from your last releases your design skill develop with scary speed. (Some is sadly not true for my understanding for compute shaders).
@tomkh: Sorry about my earlier comment. This is was layover in Hearthrow does to you.
@navis: So I can expect this for revision?! Now you have me on the hook!
Nice graphics, but I can't get more than 24 FPS througout the whole demo. With an SLI of GTX 980.
@pixtur: at revision.. it would have been fun, but travelling during Easter has been an impossibility for many years. Another party... maybe in the far future, or sooner :-)
Just now noticed the greets... damn that's sneaky :)
Yoshi_Noir: runs at a pretty stable 20fps at 1920x1080 4xAA on a single R9 270 throughout (except the beginning at pretty much 60, and my pc is 7 years old about).
Yoshi_Noir: runs at a pretty stable 20fps at 1920x1080 4xAA on a single R9 270 throughout (except the beginning at pretty much 60, and my pc is 7 years old about).
@pixtur: thanks! Its partly fault of my profile on pouet, it should be updated just now. I still hold my views, but I totally agree that only talking is cheap, so not so proud about myself here;) I cannot promise much, but I hope to do some new real-time stuff as well. Either way - great work with the ttool, it is a true inspiration. I was doing few 2d/3d/even text editors myself (as a hobby), so I know how much work it takes to get something that others can use and actually want to use.
urgh
awesome, great work.
JCO goes full on Amon Tobin - one of the best demos of the last, say, 10 years?
it's mindboggling good. whenever i see a new still demo i get excited - and they never disappoint.
Different and absolutely freakin' awesome!
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wow the athmosphere dudez... <3
Stellar visuals coupled with an equally stellar soundtrack, beauty!
So I was digging a little in the demo assets, and unfortunately I have found out that even two main "effects" - floating noisy blob and the terrain (that everybody is drolling so much about) near the end are all modelled using external tools (like 3dsmax or Maya), not even "ttool".
I did this render straight out of Maya using .FBX attached:
I mean seriously... that's just two objects you have there that could be easily generated with a code and you model it like total lamers (sorry, but that's exactly what it is in a demoscene terms) and then some respected folks over here call it "the best demo since 10 years". No words. I'm very disappointed by the state of the demoscene nowadays.
I did this render straight out of Maya using .FBX attached:
I mean seriously... that's just two objects you have there that could be easily generated with a code and you model it like total lamers (sorry, but that's exactly what it is in a demoscene terms) and then some respected folks over here call it "the best demo since 10 years". No words. I'm very disappointed by the state of the demoscene nowadays.
^ Oh noes, someone used something pre-generated and didn't use 4kb size-coding methods in their 50+ MB demo, what an outrage. ;) If those meshes were ripped and wrongly credited, then you might have a point. But this is just trolling and/or ignorance.
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I mean seriously... that's just two objects you have there that could be easily generated with a code and you model it like total lamers
Oh fuck the fuck off.
You know why this is? Because coders (generally) can't design, and designers (generally) can't code. If you want to rather enjoy sume substandard prods that instead of being actually good adhere to some arbitrary restrictions, you can by all means leave and go masturbate with your very own personal subculture that imposes such canon.
@tomaes: I agree, "lamer" is reserved for other things (the one you mentioned), sorry.
@noby: I just state my honest crtique here, if you don't like it, please also calm down.
@noby: I just state my honest crtique here, if you don't like it, please also calm down.
@noby (again): but I can agree with you that restrictions are bad. The thing is having pre-generated asset is a restriction to me (i.e. you end up with a static scene, you can always call it "artistic choice" though, but I just don't buy it).
And again sorry for using the wrong l-word (my big bad over here).
And again sorry for using the wrong l-word (my big bad over here).
@tomkh: Sure, preferences are one thing, and completely valid. I myself have several, some of which are really out of the line with the general consensus within the scene. I didn't care about your opinions earlier, but it does seriously piss me off when the bottom line of your criticism seems to be not the prod itself, but the tools or workflow that were used. I think it's a ridiculous standard to apply that some implementations or design choices must be done a certain way or otherwise the demo isn't good. Not that I'm interested in continuing this discussion, but you really don't think the end justifies the means (within reasonable boundaries) when it come to demomaking?
@noby: I can agree that means justifies the end if your goal is purely aesthetical effect. And it's true that it is a kind of ethos for people like me (probably not even all coders) to generate "stuff" out of a code (possibly animate with a code as well) - and it is more impressive for me if somebody is doing similar stuff with an interesting artistic results and good real-time performance. So for me what counts is more like a good balance between artistic beauty and the code behind it when it comes to demos, and yes, it is subjective. Moreover, if I want to enjoy things in pure aesthetical sense I usually watch fully pre-calculated movies - and actually it would be nice to have good quality abstract content as movies as well i.e. the computer generated part in Tron Legacy is a good example, way nicer than this "thing" to me, although it would be nice to have more things like that, as a movie or real-time, but as you said - truly without imposing any restrictions.
tomkh: no one is forcing you to watch this demo in loop mode. you could channel your envy in more productive ways than posting on pouet. just saying.
@psenough: yeah, I don't even know why I'm "tilting at windmills" over here. This demo is nice, good enough, I just found it shocking that people are calling it "one of the best"... and to be honest that demotivates me to do any work on a demoscene. Maybe that's why I'm defending my statement so eagerly.
you don't have to do something like this to make a good demo. diversity is a good thing. i would suggest to just do your own thing. if you put your heart and effort into whatever kind of demoscene production you enjoy doing people will acknowledge it regardless if it's more focused on tech code or design.
can't please everyone, best thing you can do is please yourself. it's a lot more fun aswell.
@psenough: thanks. It doesn't have to be this way though. I like a spirit when there is both in one demo - impressive code plus let's say no compromise/restriction on design.
Maybe it's just a matter of learning how to cooperate better to create something like this.
Also I might be doing terrible PR job/too emotional arguments over here, but that was my initial and only point. And I back off for now, as I've hit post limit long time ago.
Maybe it's just a matter of learning how to cooperate better to create something like this.
Also I might be doing terrible PR job/too emotional arguments over here, but that was my initial and only point. And I back off for now, as I've hit post limit long time ago.
Thanks to everyone who commented.
I didn't really expect so many nice comments - so I am really happy about all the positive feedback and super motivated to work on more releases now! Thank you!
@gloom Thank you so much!
@urs thank you! Screenshot was pixturs choice! :P
@bloodnok thank you. Thinking about getting a vr port of this once I get my hands on a set of glasses. Should be fun since there is also a lot of stuff going on all around the camera.
@ultra wow. Thank you so much.
@cynic :D
@noby Thank you. I haven't seen interestellar yet so I don't know. But I think after I asked jco if he could remove the guitar-ending which was originally there he saw interstellar and got inspired and started a new ending.
@hornet. Thank you!
@yogib33r Wow. Thank you. Glad that you like it!
@theT Thank you! <3
@quisten Wow. My pleasure. Thank you!
@kravich Interesting – also because I wasn't even part of still when they made calcifer... making a trilogy out of it could be a nice idea =)
@HellMood thank you so much!
@orange Thank you. I put those birds in because I wanted to have something that shows the scale of the scene... birds are perfect for that... ;)
and btw. they are rigged and animated in tooll!!!!111
@cupe thank you so much! And thanks again for explaining me your hdr workflow. Tooll totally needs this!
@dixan :O :)
@tomaes. Omg thank you.
@gasman Wow thank you!
@puryx Thank you. Btw. Some minor parts should always be different every time you watch this... The longer you wait – the more noticeable the differences... ;)
@zafio thank you!
@navis yes you have a point there. Unfortunately the tooll in it's current state limits you to single triangles. I'd love to have more control over the width and chunkiness of the exploding parts... :)
@amiga4ever Wow. Thanks!
@a-move thank you. I feel honored.
@alkame The demo will be part of the next tooll releases. You can take any screenshot in any resolution then. If you need it urgently tell me the times and I'll render some out for you.
@kylearan thank you. Well the idea was to start simple in every aspect... but I understand if you don't like the colors at the beginning.
@preacher Feels like all the work I put into coronoid pays off when I read how you felt when you watched it. Thank you so much.
@sq almost... but his interfaces look much better... (I mean pixturs interfaces of course...)
@temix oh thank you! :D
@navis Thank you! And yes all of this was done in "Tooll2" – http://tooll.io And can't wait to see your new release!
@smash thank you for your feedback. I admire pretty much every release you worked on. And I think I share your view on the technical vs tool vs artist question.
@chock interesting comment... thank you.
@yoshi_noir hm. Check your drivers. This runs smooth on my geforce 450.
@gargaj thank you so much!
@tomkh Erm... yeah... of course these meshes were done in 3dsmax – so was the unicorn and the dolphins in eternal dream of beauty... I always use the right tool for the right job. Always.
I see no point in reinventing the wheel. And I also don't have the skill or the time to write my own tool, 3dmodeling application, api, driver, OS or to design and solder my own processor and gpu. Where do you draw the line?
I didn't really expect so many nice comments - so I am really happy about all the positive feedback and super motivated to work on more releases now! Thank you!
@gloom Thank you so much!
@urs thank you! Screenshot was pixturs choice! :P
@bloodnok thank you. Thinking about getting a vr port of this once I get my hands on a set of glasses. Should be fun since there is also a lot of stuff going on all around the camera.
@ultra wow. Thank you so much.
@cynic :D
@noby Thank you. I haven't seen interestellar yet so I don't know. But I think after I asked jco if he could remove the guitar-ending which was originally there he saw interstellar and got inspired and started a new ending.
@hornet. Thank you!
@yogib33r Wow. Thank you. Glad that you like it!
@theT Thank you! <3
@quisten Wow. My pleasure. Thank you!
@kravich Interesting – also because I wasn't even part of still when they made calcifer... making a trilogy out of it could be a nice idea =)
@HellMood thank you so much!
@orange Thank you. I put those birds in because I wanted to have something that shows the scale of the scene... birds are perfect for that... ;)
and btw. they are rigged and animated in tooll!!!!111
@cupe thank you so much! And thanks again for explaining me your hdr workflow. Tooll totally needs this!
@dixan :O :)
@tomaes. Omg thank you.
@gasman Wow thank you!
@puryx Thank you. Btw. Some minor parts should always be different every time you watch this... The longer you wait – the more noticeable the differences... ;)
@zafio thank you!
@navis yes you have a point there. Unfortunately the tooll in it's current state limits you to single triangles. I'd love to have more control over the width and chunkiness of the exploding parts... :)
@amiga4ever Wow. Thanks!
@a-move thank you. I feel honored.
@alkame The demo will be part of the next tooll releases. You can take any screenshot in any resolution then. If you need it urgently tell me the times and I'll render some out for you.
@kylearan thank you. Well the idea was to start simple in every aspect... but I understand if you don't like the colors at the beginning.
@preacher Feels like all the work I put into coronoid pays off when I read how you felt when you watched it. Thank you so much.
@sq almost... but his interfaces look much better... (I mean pixturs interfaces of course...)
@temix oh thank you! :D
@navis Thank you! And yes all of this was done in "Tooll2" – http://tooll.io And can't wait to see your new release!
@smash thank you for your feedback. I admire pretty much every release you worked on. And I think I share your view on the technical vs tool vs artist question.
@chock interesting comment... thank you.
@yoshi_noir hm. Check your drivers. This runs smooth on my geforce 450.
@gargaj thank you so much!
@tomkh Erm... yeah... of course these meshes were done in 3dsmax – so was the unicorn and the dolphins in eternal dream of beauty... I always use the right tool for the right job. Always.
I see no point in reinventing the wheel. And I also don't have the skill or the time to write my own tool, 3dmodeling application, api, driver, OS or to design and solder my own processor and gpu. Where do you draw the line?
@psenough: Very well said.
@tomkh: I believe a tool should be an enabler, not a proof of concept for its own sake. Working with a tool is only fun, if it enables you to do something new or do it better. With our tool for now, this is probably tweaking parameters, animations and messing around with scene-graphs. Of course I would love to have more procedural modeling tools, but unless we have them, I'm completely fine with using the most convenient tool at hand. Likewise I build some textures procedurally in tooll (because it's more fun and allows for more control) but still paint sky-maps with a Wacom in Photoshop.
And then again, who cares anyway as long as the idea and content are original and we have another demo-release? I think the only thing "wrong" with the demoscene nowadays is that are too few releases :-)
@tomkh: I believe a tool should be an enabler, not a proof of concept for its own sake. Working with a tool is only fun, if it enables you to do something new or do it better. With our tool for now, this is probably tweaking parameters, animations and messing around with scene-graphs. Of course I would love to have more procedural modeling tools, but unless we have them, I'm completely fine with using the most convenient tool at hand. Likewise I build some textures procedurally in tooll (because it's more fun and allows for more control) but still paint sky-maps with a Wacom in Photoshop.
And then again, who cares anyway as long as the idea and content are original and we have another demo-release? I think the only thing "wrong" with the demoscene nowadays is that are too few releases :-)
It's all fine, you did a good job, nice to have a release and so on... but generating close to random noisy mesh using even "perfect tools for it" (that say let's you do it just few clicks plus some kind of soft-modifier to drag "spikes") is not impressive for me. Why? Precisely because it's easy/cheap. And this content is cheap - even in pure artistic terms. Now, if this mesh would be generated in real-time and say animate/morph in real-time - it would do.
Thank You Demo Scene Police for Laying Down the Law on Content in Demos!
(from Chronicles of Riddick, Crematoria)
tomkh: the terrain in this demo is not just some perlin/fractal noise with a modifier. It looks to be more complex. Loading the fbx is also complex (probably). There is a lot of complexity in there from both artist and programmer.
I would also cheat this way (as most people must do)- model it in wings or blender (as I've done a million times before), or use a function, depending on my mood and time constraints.
I would also cheat this way (as most people must do)- model it in wings or blender (as I've done a million times before), or use a function, depending on my mood and time constraints.
@navis: It looks like fbm+modifier to me, additional "mesh complexity" may come from simplification that was applied afterwards, so they didn't have to implement lod for just this one shot.
But sure, I understand it is because of time constraints, just one can do better nowadays, for example: it would be nice to see something on par with CG movies, like this Crematoria planet I've posted (that looks surprisingly similar, especially later in the movie when the sun goes up with a big "woooh" sounds) - why not aim higher?
But sure, I understand it is because of time constraints, just one can do better nowadays, for example: it would be nice to see something on par with CG movies, like this Crematoria planet I've posted (that looks surprisingly similar, especially later in the movie when the sun goes up with a big "woooh" sounds) - why not aim higher?
tomkh: Go make a demo about it.
tomkh: I personally think that this scene in the demo is very well executed. It feels that all pixels are in the right place, and it needs nothing more; no more complexity, no clever coding to do things in realtime (or in loading time). Just like many paintings, they don't try to replicate the world like a photograph would but instead expose a different facet of reality, some times using just the most basic of tools - a single pencil stroke on a white canvas, see Picasso etc.
This type of work is more important for the demoscene, again imho, than trying to recreate an impossibly complex scene out of a computer game or a film.
Don't aim higher. Aim different.
This type of work is more important for the demoscene, again imho, than trying to recreate an impossibly complex scene out of a computer game or a film.
Don't aim higher. Aim different.
Sorry tomkh, it's just a really good demo no matter how you spin it. Better make a demo about it and move on!
Just watched it again, it is truly sublime and beautiful!
Stellar! Great soundtrack and the demo itself is just a seamless beauty.Really takes you away for a while.
Oh right...the thumb.
@navis: agreed, painting is not a reality, from Van Eyck, Botticelli, Caravaggio to Van Gogh, Monet, Klimt, Chagall and so on... form vs content, all supported with a great mastery and technique! I actually really like what you are doing - for example: a schematic tree in front of red city-skyline with fluid-like particles in "Lifeforce" is a genuine code-driven demo art to me - a great combination of form, technique and expression. And this sunrise on ice "wooh wooh" scene is some mediocre attempt to capture Interstellar+Riddick kind of "epic" bullshit-emotion-squeezers, easily resonating with infantile-mindset, no wonder so greatly applauded.
@tomkh, luckily, you provide us with great many examples of mature mindset in the comments here.
@introspec: oh, so "critical thinking" is so immature these days? Do you have anything to contribute to my short discourse about art, form and technique or you are just annoyed that somebody is sharing his opinions in a comment section that is supposed to be exactly made for this purpose?
@navis, would you be so kind as to tell tomkh a bit about the "forbidden fakery" you used in lifeforce? ;) but then again, don't feed the troll! also, i used commercial plugins/sound libs for coronoid :P
lots and lots of fakery- please people cheat as much as you can, getting that demo out is more important that following Moses' 10 commandments.
@jco: guys, if you say I am troll I give up. the only reason I am so eagerly defending my rather simple opinion over and over again is you cannot handle _any_ critique - I am a little bit harsh, yes, but not _that_ harsh. It's amazing. So please continue your self-admiration circle, no wonder demoscene is such an artistic niche.
here is a "making of" of the sountrack: http://www.jco.de/2015/04/the-sound-of-coronoid/
thanks for all the comments!
@tomkh, i think i get you opinion, and there are some valid points to it. it also is rather harsh and parts of your comments are straight out insulting.
thanks for all the comments!
@tomkh, i think i get you opinion, and there are some valid points to it. it also is rather harsh and parts of your comments are straight out insulting.
Highly entertaining (the demo, not the comments). Awesome synch!
@jco: I apologize for insulting parts, trust me, this critique cost me a lot of emotions/health as well...like shit why I even started :(
Hi @tomkh, I have two problems with your arguments:
1. I feel a bit offended when you claim that I’m averse to critique. I work hard to talk everybody into giving me brutally open feedback. (To live by this principle was one of the reasons to start a company).
2. You seem to confuse giving feedback with being right. There just is not wrong or right here, there are only opinions. I really appreciate your comments and I might even try to use some textures to an upcoming project. But you have to accept that people sometimes ignore your feedback. It could be for a lack of technology/know-how or because of artistic freedom. Maybe it’s both. I do this stuff in my spare time (I guess I can also speak for Alex here) also because we can choose experiments are most interesting for our creative development. We explore, we experiment, we play, we learn (also through comments like yours).
Btw: Alex’ gave a talk on the topic of visual style at nvScene.
Of course, I’m more than happy to discuss more over a beer at revision or deadline.
1. I feel a bit offended when you claim that I’m averse to critique. I work hard to talk everybody into giving me brutally open feedback. (To live by this principle was one of the reasons to start a company).
2. You seem to confuse giving feedback with being right. There just is not wrong or right here, there are only opinions. I really appreciate your comments and I might even try to use some textures to an upcoming project. But you have to accept that people sometimes ignore your feedback. It could be for a lack of technology/know-how or because of artistic freedom. Maybe it’s both. I do this stuff in my spare time (I guess I can also speak for Alex here) also because we can choose experiments are most interesting for our creative development. We explore, we experiment, we play, we learn (also through comments like yours).
Btw: Alex’ gave a talk on the topic of visual style at nvScene.
Of course, I’m more than happy to discuss more over a beer at revision or deadline.
I think the audio sync puts it far beyond what it would have otherwise been (which was already a lot).
great demo as usual with Still!
some small things if I can afford, the colors at the begining looks like "normal map base color" and too pinky^^ and perhaps too many big triangle. and too short of course :)
And I just realized that 1x was the creator of Exodus....the most "demoish" video clip. when I saw it for the first time I said to myself: we must make a demo like this :)
some small things if I can afford, the colors at the begining looks like "normal map base color" and too pinky^^ and perhaps too many big triangle. and too short of course :)
And I just realized that 1x was the creator of Exodus....the most "demoish" video clip. when I saw it for the first time I said to myself: we must make a demo like this :)
@ntsc: haha, that's precisely what I wrote in my first email to him. :-)
@pixtur: thanks, it was also merely an overreaction to pop-culture bs in a recent blockbusters I've watched and the general state of "cg art", nothing personal. When I see explosions and hear "wooh" sounds everywhere it really acts on my nerves, sorry. As for revision I won't be there, but I am definitely up to participate and hopefully contribute something to "Deadline".
I said it before and I'll say it again, this demo is AMAZING. If you focus on a terrain and treat it like it's a random "press a button and use a few easy as 1-2-3 tricks", well you then miss the point. First of all it is a DEMO, so it is real-time. It has artistic value in many ways; soundtrack, real-time, sequences, scenario, timing, animations. It has a lot going for it. A lot of it could have been a fail in experience value, and there I think the stats show that it's a win (so far). Point being, it is a good demo.
I remember back in the late 90s when demos started using MP3s and many were mad and called for cheating. Since then, it has been the norm. Who actually still play tracker files in a demo today? Remember back then when demos such as Toasted by Cubic & $een (1996) or Square by Pulse (1997) had short video sequences. It's all just artistic value.
Overall, the experience is positive.
I remember back in the late 90s when demos started using MP3s and many were mad and called for cheating. Since then, it has been the norm. Who actually still play tracker files in a demo today? Remember back then when demos such as Toasted by Cubic & $een (1996) or Square by Pulse (1997) had short video sequences. It's all just artistic value.
Overall, the experience is positive.
@jco thank you for the making of. It was really interesting to see the process from your side of view! :)
@tomkh It seems like you really don't know yourself what you don't like about coronoid. The demo doesn't suit your taste - that's totally fine. But it seems like you're trying to convince everyone else not to like it as well... and you're insulting everyone who sees something in it that you don't. (Quote: "easily resonating with infantile-mindset")
And first you criticize "Coronoid" for having pre-computed stuff in it (2 meshes in total - no textures whatsoever) and say demos are only good if almost everything is elegantly solved in realtime and code and then you praise "Lifeforce" as a great example for these standards.
I just downloaded "Lifeforce" once more and found a total of 176 precalculated meshes and textures. Even the shadows of the meshes are baked in. And it uses videosequences as textures.
So where do you draw the line?
You don't seem to know either.
You're sick of the soundeffect and landscape epicness combination from hollywood trailers? Fine. :) I don't have problem with that at all. It's your opinion and I'd also like to hear it. That is what this comment section is for. But why do you try to convince everyone to have the same opinion and to not like demos like this?
@tomkh It seems like you really don't know yourself what you don't like about coronoid. The demo doesn't suit your taste - that's totally fine. But it seems like you're trying to convince everyone else not to like it as well... and you're insulting everyone who sees something in it that you don't. (Quote: "easily resonating with infantile-mindset")
And first you criticize "Coronoid" for having pre-computed stuff in it (2 meshes in total - no textures whatsoever) and say demos are only good if almost everything is elegantly solved in realtime and code and then you praise "Lifeforce" as a great example for these standards.
I just downloaded "Lifeforce" once more and found a total of 176 precalculated meshes and textures. Even the shadows of the meshes are baked in. And it uses videosequences as textures.
So where do you draw the line?
You don't seem to know either.
You're sick of the soundeffect and landscape epicness combination from hollywood trailers? Fine. :) I don't have problem with that at all. It's your opinion and I'd also like to hear it. That is what this comment section is for. But why do you try to convince everyone to have the same opinion and to not like demos like this?
@1x: come on, it's all over now, it's not worth going back to it anymore... in fact I have changed my mind and I can clearly see you respect honest criticism (which intially I thought you don't, after I was put under fire a little bit). So Alex, now I have to apologize you personally for acting like a "demoscene police" - my bad.
On the other side, it is true, that I do not pereceive some things as a positive trend, such as pre-computed stuff, but it is my opinion only (sorry, if most people are not interested, I should keep it lower profile) and I agree that I shouldn't discard a demo, because of that (for Lifeforce I was talking about one scene only, actually even one effect - fluid-like particle animation).
On the other side, it is true, that I do not pereceive some things as a positive trend, such as pre-computed stuff, but it is my opinion only (sorry, if most people are not interested, I should keep it lower profile) and I agree that I shouldn't discard a demo, because of that (for Lifeforce I was talking about one scene only, actually even one effect - fluid-like particle animation).
BTW the landscape scene reminds me of Harvest Records logo
nicely done! Plus the lens flares are pentagonal so we know it's not hg :)
magnifique.
This is awesome!!!
...totally awesome
Absolutely lovely.
fantastic!
Nice!
Technically very impressive. And very atmospheric.
But IMO it seems to be too much on its own, without any real content, message, link to reality... I prefer demos which not only have something to show but also something to tell.
But IMO it seems to be too much on its own, without any real content, message, link to reality... I prefer demos which not only have something to show but also something to tell.
wow this demo is something different! The way the sound and feeling is linked to the effects, like it puts you in a different world.. great synchronization with the effects.
tomkh: Drawing the line somewhere is crucial to get the demos delivered on time. We're talking about productions that are made whenever people get a free second over their rather busy evenings. These are not commercial prods with a blockbuster budget that a random connoiseur decided to sponsor! It would make sense to apply your metric over the latter, but doing so for the former is off the wall.
tl;dr: You could work a few years on a demo, sure. But then by the time you release it, it would've already been a dinosaur in terms of APIs, algorithms or techniques you used to create the outcome. Would that make any sense at all?
tl;dr: You could work a few years on a demo, sure. But then by the time you release it, it would've already been a dinosaur in terms of APIs, algorithms or techniques you used to create the outcome. Would that make any sense at all?
@kbi: I understand, but I just find it more exciting if a piece of geometry is described in a concise way, i.e. procedural generation algorithm + small set of control parameters, unless there is a clear need to have every vertex/detail sculpted by hand.
This is where I draw a line, but again, it's just my subjective view, so please, don't take it personally :)
This is where I draw a line, but again, it's just my subjective view, so please, don't take it personally :)
This must've been amazing on the big screen at NVScene. The soundtrack is orchestrated to each part of the demo so well.
I just.. I can't even. No.
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I mean seriously... that's just two objects you have there that could be easily generated with a code and you model it like total lamers
I just.. I can't even. No.
@phoenix: shit, guys, I have apologized for it few times already. It really doesn't make sense to bring it back over and over again. I overreacted, that's all.
Liked.
A big thumb up. This demo is really magnificient. Thanks !
this amazing demo deserves a better screenshot :)
So strange.
This is
a prod
for the
eternal
realms of
apotheosis*
Always Shedding Daylight !
Exquisitely satisfying palettes
without and with every color.
Quality from unseen unheard depths
Quietly, pervasively building up, into
a massive synthesized climax and
solid state frozen structured surfaces
The DNA strings showing similarities
with Vangelis and Pythagoras?!
Such subtle elements of freedom
* glorification to divine levels
a prod
for the
eternal
realms of
apotheosis*
Always Shedding Daylight !
Exquisitely satisfying palettes
without and with every color.
Quality from unseen unheard depths
Quietly, pervasively building up, into
a massive synthesized climax and
solid state frozen structured surfaces
The DNA strings showing similarities
with Vangelis and Pythagoras?!
Such subtle elements of freedom
* glorification to divine levels
omfg
Very great demo, excellent work. And -haha- vvvery instructive discussion about the generated groundmap, I was wondering how to do it for a prod \o/ I <3 demoscene so much !
looks and feels more like a demoreel made up of various disconnected scenes - most likely due to the sound not providing a consistent background.
really liked the fibonacci balls though =)
really liked the fibonacci balls though =)
great great demo. congrats
Fantastic.
.
great, nothing to say.
Simply suberb! Massive cinematic feeling. Perfect unison with the audio and the visuals. Sense of something "bigger" that you can't quite grasp. Lots of tiny details and polish you might not notice on the 1st watch. Get shivers every time watching this.
Like good wine, Still seems to age very well. :)
Like good wine, Still seems to age very well. :)
just beautiful.
such a beauty ...and I didn't thumb this yet ...
This takes me on an amazing journey.
wow - beautiful(l) - deserved winner!
World class sync
Watched this again, and I like the abstract story that it builds up without giving the viewer directions of what's going to happen.
Hello,
do your recent prods require framework 4.5 ????
with my windows 7 SP1 64 and framework 4.0 installed, I get an error and am invited to download and install version 4.5 ?
just asking because you say "4.0 required" ....
I didn't encounter a demo (or a game) requiring a framework version higher than 4.0, yet.
do your recent prods require framework 4.5 ????
with my windows 7 SP1 64 and framework 4.0 installed, I get an error and am invited to download and install version 4.5 ?
just asking because you say "4.0 required" ....
I didn't encounter a demo (or a game) requiring a framework version higher than 4.0, yet.
what them said.
@atlan: We're using 4.5 for the UI. So maybe the Player now also requires 4.5. Thanks for pointing this out. We will update the nfo for the next releases.
Damn! For so long I remembered this as just "stuff always banging into each other" - I must have been really tired when I watched it o.O
Mesmerizing visuals, great connecting theme, ace sound effects. I like how the "music" is not really music this time, shifting the focus all the more to the visuals which really deliver. Great transitions and effects, and ends just when it needs to end.
Top notch!
Mesmerizing visuals, great connecting theme, ace sound effects. I like how the "music" is not really music this time, shifting the focus all the more to the visuals which really deliver. Great transitions and effects, and ends just when it needs to end.
Top notch!
Combines tech and style in a very nice way. Demo that will be remembered far in the future.
Very pleasant demo with a high rewatch value. Excellent soundtrack as well.
I did notice minor sync inconsistencies early on, and I'm most puzzled that it runs "smooth" on 1x's GF 450. I mean I'm on a 560, which has twice the pixel fill rate, and it gets into the 10-15 fps territory by the end of the "sphere surrounded by pink triangles" scene and never recovers from there when using 1920x1200 with 4x AA. If I dial that down to 1280x800 and no AA I recover ~10 extra fps, but that's it. My graphics drivers are from August 2015. What exactly am I missing?
I did notice minor sync inconsistencies early on, and I'm most puzzled that it runs "smooth" on 1x's GF 450. I mean I'm on a 560, which has twice the pixel fill rate, and it gets into the 10-15 fps territory by the end of the "sphere surrounded by pink triangles" scene and never recovers from there when using 1920x1200 with 4x AA. If I dial that down to 1280x800 and no AA I recover ~10 extra fps, but that's it. My graphics drivers are from August 2015. What exactly am I missing?
i really like this prod. i love how the physic "feels": almost as if i am flying around in space :)
srsly, i love the physics in this.
srsly, i love the physics in this.
So I installed Framework 4.52 : works great after this.
Geforce 980, driver 344.75 (very stable one)
For people with Win7x64 (SP1) who never upgraded .NET (like me), here's the answer.
Geforce 980, driver 344.75 (very stable one)
For people with Win7x64 (SP1) who never upgraded .NET (like me), here's the answer.
awesome
I agree with tomkh's last comments about this
amazing
This is how every big-bang should happen.
choice is the incongruence of beliefs.
00:30 !
cosmic!
late orgacosmic thumb
Why I forgot to vote this lol, yeah one of my favorite demo
out of this world! and jco's making of is quite revealing as well. thanks!
mo' drummaz by the week!?
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