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And to think, YouTube just added support for 60fps. ;) Is this "Bad Apple" video the beginning of a another Scene meme/cliche?
Anyway, great job! Not only did it have to fit on one side, but with the text and images at the start and end. Though if you could have waited ~4 weeks, submitting this to Nordlicht probably would have knocked their socks off. :)
Anyway, great job! Not only did it have to fit on one side, but with the text and images at the start and end. Though if you could have waited ~4 weeks, submitting this to Nordlicht probably would have knocked their socks off. :)
OMG!! :-)
Good, good, let the video flow
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Awesome !
Awesome! Although I'd still like to see a cartridge version with more space....
Haha cool! I love the music to SID remake.
I thought that would be amazing for someone make this on amiga500. But on C64, that was incredible.
Amazing
Piggie for non-syncing audio (which is essential)
love your work, even that I find this one to have too much artefacts to be 100% enjoyable (you've spoiled us already), but hey - it's a single sider!
and the SID version of the tune is awesome!!
respect!!!
and the SID version of the tune is awesome!!
respect!!!
A bit too blocky for my taste but still very enjoyable, great tune as well. Challenges are great fun and this is true demo spirit, thumbs up! :)
Tell us how you did it. Advanced humanity!
Advanced=advance
Now turn the disk and play the fucking game! :D
Awesome!
http://www.geocities.jp/submarine600/html/apple.html
/r ripping haters
/r ripping haters
What StingRay said.
I was expecting a REU port, but streaming from a floppy.. yowza. The SID was cute.
Great proof of concept! And I love technical write-ups, so an extra thumb up for that.
Quite impressive i have to say :)
Ugly as hell, but an impressive form of ugliness! You're compression master dear Mr Algorithm! bring us more! :D
I enjoyed the sid a lot!
I enjoyed the sid a lot!
Cool. Now add colors :)
I love bad apple and this is a gerat version <3 <3 <3
Algorithm: amazing! :) I watch again and again the original and yours (under vice). My favorite part of the animation is when the girl fall and start running around 2:55 in the video as the movement make it feel very alive.
you know, I will be curious to know what can be done using a C128... the disk drive can read both sides (1328 blocs per disk). The CPU can be set to 2Mhz, but you will lose the VIC-II chip.. there is another video mode (80 columns) with higher resolution. I don't know if the charset can be re-program and if your code could be ported...
when thinking about compression, sometime we can dream big... Could the song be compress as well as the video on C128?
you know, I will be curious to know what can be done using a C128... the disk drive can read both sides (1328 blocs per disk). The CPU can be set to 2Mhz, but you will lose the VIC-II chip.. there is another video mode (80 columns) with higher resolution. I don't know if the charset can be re-program and if your code could be ported...
when thinking about compression, sometime we can dream big... Could the song be compress as well as the video on C128?
seems like its the time of custom streaming video techniques for slow computers.
Great prod !
Wow!
Amazing!!! Great!!! :)
It's an achievement esp. in compression, but mebbe some more fidelity in exchange to filesize would have been more viewer friendly?
awesome technical prod, as usual with Algorithm :D
Algorithm: I did not expect to see this prod. coming out after releasing Eclectic, within the same month! How many prod. do you usually plan/do per year? Have any specific dates you target or you go as things goes?
Impressive
Looks like crap, and a fucking SID remake instead of the soundtrack? Massive thumbdown -- "Make It Smooth Or Don't Make It At All".
I'm kind of astonished that one can fit about 10secs of video into a set of 256 16x16 blocks. This is likely due to the fact that the orig video has low entropy (i.e. is quite "simple", lots of redundancy). On other videos the compression would'nt produce so nice a result.
Anyway this is a real achievement. Congrats to the coder! Thumb Up.
Anyway this is a real achievement. Congrats to the coder! Thumb Up.
hum 256 16x16 is not exact. Please read
==> "10secs of video could be defined using at most 256 different 16x16 patterns" is more accurage
==> "10secs of video could be defined using at most 256 different 16x16 patterns" is more accurage
Who the fucks care about how good u can compress this shit when it looks like shit.
attitude!
Angry people are probably jealous. :D
How long did it take to compress the whole 2200 frames ?
How long did it take to compress the whole 2200 frames ?
Nice proof of concept! There's also a megadrive version, but this is 8 MB and not 170 KB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vPe452cegU
This time with clickable link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vPe452cegU
Algorithm: I read the comments and I do feel also bad for some of them related to your works. Well, if you look to any kind of productions on social media (youtube, ...), there is always a ~10% which is doing a big thumb down. So, it`s a good sign when you have a couple of people giving bad critics, that's mean your production get higher viewers! ;) It`s better to have 100 comments, 10 000 views and 10% thumb down then 100% thumb up, but only 50 views. ;)
if I was still involve on gp2x... I will like try to make a bad apple version on it.. ;) but will probably be 200kb just the executable before I add the data.. as I never work to shrink down the executable/music lib...
if I was still involve on gp2x... I will like try to make a bad apple version on it.. ;) but will probably be 200kb just the executable before I add the data.. as I never work to shrink down the executable/music lib...
Thanks for the explanation. Only a few hours spend in pre-processing. I'd thought it would require days (GPU used maybe ?).
Is the genetic selection strategy for finding the optimum tiles better than other clustering methods ? I'm thinking about k-medians or k-means clustering for bit vectors: the tiles being considered as a binary vector. Does it produces better results? Is it faster? or is it simply easier to code?
Is the genetic selection strategy for finding the optimum tiles better than other clustering methods ? I'm thinking about k-medians or k-means clustering for bit vectors: the tiles being considered as a binary vector. Does it produces better results? Is it faster? or is it simply easier to code?
Great compression! Love it.
nice work.
"CSAM Super" looks great. I should have known: everything that contains SAM in its name works great :) I will give it a try. Is it specifically tuned for the C64? or is it possible to customize it for other machines ?
Not bad. :)
o_O Impressive!
Bad Apple confirmed for standardized crazy-ass video encoding / decoding test clip.
Too blocky/many artifacts for me to really be able to enjoy it. Appreciate the effort and hard work though!
Very impressive!
I can't really say i like the video being "covered" here very much, but technically, this is extremely impressive!
I didn't mind the artifacts much, I actually found them to add their own "style" to the visuals. Very impressive, good sir!
Oh, and extra
for the writeup!
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Liked the video back when it was a meme, the remake just loses too much when the sync is gone and you can't really see what's happening. I mean it looks *really* bad, which is of course due to the extreme compression that won you the bet.
Gaahh, super!
Generally I'm not especially impressed by the Bad Apple.
But playing it from a floppy on real hardware changes everything.
Algorithm has provided another coding-masterpiece production.
Music sounds very pleasant and not much different from original. And introduction gives very positive mood.
But playing it from a floppy on real hardware changes everything.
Algorithm has provided another coding-masterpiece production.
Music sounds very pleasant and not much different from original. And introduction gives very positive mood.
Kool!
WoW, you did it. A great way to use the driving disk properly without hesitation or bugs. Excellent. I like this better than soundrecordings.
Impressive! Thanks for the writeup.
Soundtrack sounds nice to me, definitely the best SID version that I've heard so far.
Soundtrack sounds nice to me, definitely the best SID version that I've heard so far.
What? I didn't thumb this yet? The Soundtrack alone is enough for thumbing this one up
:)
quite an achievement
It's a pity the animation is so horribly scarred by the compression used, but hats off to the challenge.
meh
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if this prod is a fake, some info is false or the download link is broken,
do not post about it in the comments, it will get lost.
instead, click here !
Each frame packed to around 70 bytes and running at 12fps streaming fully from disk!