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congratulations on making a borring keyframed demo, only displaying scenes exported from your favorite modeller.
sucks added on the 2003-03-24 10:35:48 by rasmus/loonies 
Nice style-3d-flyby with a funky tune.
Sorry for the tooltip bit in the screenshot. ;)
Sorry for the tooltip bit in the screenshot. ;)
RA5MUS: and what about music quality & 3D art?
Hangs after 3 seconds of stonehenge here.
Tomaes: 'S' Key for ScreenShot when watching the demo works fine too :P
Yeah, another flyby. Visually it's quite nice, but if you're going to do a flyby, at least take the time to use decent frame composition. (rule of thirds, leading space, director's line, etc...)
All the same, it's not as bad as many other productions.
All the same, it's not as bad as many other productions.
3d flybys is boring! But much of the modelling was really nice. Textures looked really good and the music was a really kick-ass song!
I like the visuals and music a lot.
A demo I'll watch again and again :)
Perhaps some framings and the cut are perfectible, but if you consider that everything was put together in a hurry at the party place, the result is pretty terrific.
A demo I'll watch again and again :)
Perhaps some framings and the cut are perfectible, but if you consider that everything was put together in a hurry at the party place, the result is pretty terrific.
Nice design but quite a simple script and too few scenes.
Music synch is good, but it's not everything. :)
Music synch is good, but it's not everything. :)
nice demo, good design and artwork, good looking rendering engine.
Was ranked 2nd at the demoparty, between a Pegasos demo and an Amiga PPC one.
this is very kewl.. even if i usually don't like flybyes..
stylish graphics, very nice to see fra's design in a new mandarine demo..
++ for the funky soundtrack
btw, what's that buggy diagonal black line in the middle of the screen ? render to texture artefact ? i have a gf4go with 31.30..
stylish graphics, very nice to see fra's design in a new mandarine demo..
++ for the funky soundtrack
btw, what's that buggy diagonal black line in the middle of the screen ? render to texture artefact ? i have a gf4go with 31.30..
31.10 more precisely
flrnt: fucking noise effect !! =P
I noticied disabling hardware antialiasing remove that buggy diagonal black line..
I noticied disabling hardware antialiasing remove that buggy diagonal black line..
norecess: oh yah, it's not my kind of music and the 3d looks like a plugin-gallery.
RA5MUS: so please, tell that it's not your type of demos instead of telling us that the demo is boring..
Tomaes: use Irfanview for screenshots.
Demo: the rendering engine looks very nice. cool colors, good design, etc. the music is also cool. this demo rockz.
Demo: the rendering engine looks very nice. cool colors, good design, etc. the music is also cool. this demo rockz.
funky tune, rest is kinda ok.
wow, i think i never use hardware antialiasing , my gf4go 420 is slow enough without =)
don't worry some other demos have the same kind of artefacts =)
don't worry some other demos have the same kind of artefacts =)
wow, impressive staff :)
Very very interesting design and ambience, just a bit too short :/
Very very interesting design and ambience, just a bit too short :/
"and the 3d looks like a plugin-gallery." - uhm, lightwave have builtin radiosity renderer , so does max5, the rest is kindof, standard 3d..
i have that line bug to, and ofcourse i use antialiasing, but not the same tech. as nVidia one, so my guess is simply that its buggy code :-)
i have that line bug to, and ofcourse i use antialiasing, but not the same tech. as nVidia one, so my guess is simply that its buggy code :-)
un trés grand coup...
bravo!!!
bravo!!!
un grand coup....dans ton cu.. :)
RA5MUS -> can you please tell me what plug did I used ? handmade polygons models + shadow maps + a few keyframes : are those things PLUG-INS for you ? Could you tell me what software are we allowed to use without being considered as a plug-in-abuser ? Should we use notepad.exe for modeling and debug.exe for texturing ?
Just tell me my 3D is boring or you don't like my style, this would be OK.
Just tell me my 3D is boring or you don't like my style, this would be OK.
liked it.. !
rasmus: sometimes you can be a real asshole :)
rasmus: sometimes you can be a real asshole :)
nice 3d style, somewhat flawed composition, but I guess that was a hurried prod...
nice... a little bug sometimes (a black line in the screen)
okay :) (nothing for me though)
3d slideshow of fra's art ;)
Very nice mood and design. I liked it. We could say that the music doesn't really fit the visuals (or the contrary), but the very good job on synchronization makes the global thing very nice and coherent.
PS : yeah i know it sucks to thumb up a prod of his own group but 1) i'm french, and everybody knows french and their selfishness are ruining pouet.net 2) i didn't take part to this demo and well, i don't give a fuck :)
PS : yeah i know it sucks to thumb up a prod of his own group but 1) i'm french, and everybody knows french and their selfishness are ruining pouet.net 2) i didn't take part to this demo and well, i don't give a fuck :)
Boah! Nice design. nice music and overall presentation! thx!
Cute, but I feel it's a little 'empty', or perhaps what is empty is my head... (sure it is :D)
got all kinds of errors
fra/norecess: relax, it's not a personal assault im trying to conduct. i merely stated that i didn't like the overall feeling from the demo. i'm sure your modelling skills are evil; and the scenes looks pretty -- but they gave me the impression that it was someone doing tests of various plugins (fx. a shadowmap plugin which has become so popular lately).
in particular i liked the scene in the screenshot because of the growing red-thingies.
now there. elaborated.
in particular i liked the scene in the screenshot because of the growing red-thingies.
now there. elaborated.
no innovative stuff, but it looked cute and had some okay music. so a piggie!
so nice ... keep the FRAA touch alive
there is precision, all is ok
i know my machine isn't really up to date but this ran in like 0.5 fps.. (gf2mx,win98)
ach gut !
pretty cool, after intial high hopes with the opening.. it was a little let down by too much repeatition. piggie for me.
Indeed, it's a little bit empty. 'guess we lost the storyline in the hurry. Errr, that's quite usual nowadays :/
For the fake-GI-look you're talking about Rasmus, i admit : i used this demo to make some experiments with lighting schemes, staging and so on. That's why i'm doing demos : experiment. It might be boring to certain people, 'Redline' being obviously far from being the perfect demo.
For the fake-GI-look you're talking about Rasmus, i admit : i used this demo to make some experiments with lighting schemes, staging and so on. That's why i'm doing demos : experiment. It might be boring to certain people, 'Redline' being obviously far from being the perfect demo.
nice muzak, nice demo ... good job guys
i like it
Pretty nice demo, but it could have been a really great demo. Atleast no speed problems on my pretty old machine :)
nice but not my flavour so 8-P
c bien mignon tout ca y'a qu'a en faire une autre j'crois
han ! good code and good music !
next time, more effects pliz ;)
aller nono, fais en une autre ;)
next time, more effects pliz ;)
aller nono, fais en une autre ;)
liked.
ahaha macaw is having a problem here ;)
art is nice but a bit too empty maybe
music isn't my cup of tea bit it's a question of self i assume.
demo is nice but nothing more
no thumb up, no thumb down, just a lame comment i know
blabla this demo is nice.
art is nice but a bit too empty maybe
music isn't my cup of tea bit it's a question of self i assume.
demo is nice but nothing more
no thumb up, no thumb down, just a lame comment i know
blabla this demo is nice.
objects are cute!
Good demo, good design, good music :)
Graphs are also a little basics, but global design is here !
second place nonstolen ! Go one mens !
Graphs are also a little basics, but global design is here !
second place nonstolen ! Go one mens !
ouuuups, rulez missed :)
- for code (lws flybie, no effects, black line bug sometimes)
+ for music (best part of the demo)
+ for design (good concept)
~ for artwork
nice overall, but there is still room for improvement guys ;)
+ for music (best part of the demo)
+ for design (good concept)
~ for artwork
nice overall, but there is still room for improvement guys ;)
Great 3d demo. Looks and sounds wonderful.
No design.
No Code.
No music.
No spirit.
jylam is definitly the worst coder ever, before rectum cauda.
Please stop smoking out scene with farts like that, and try doing something a bit *original* or at least *spiritfull*. (what I mean by this, is do a linux demo).
jylam on windows, haha!
No Code.
No music.
No spirit.
jylam is definitly the worst coder ever, before rectum cauda.
Please stop smoking out scene with farts like that, and try doing something a bit *original* or at least *spiritfull*. (what I mean by this, is do a linux demo).
jylam on windows, haha!
This demo has some misunderstood vivid feedbacks... I personnaly found it very enjoyable, way above the average. And it *has* a soul, thanks to Fra =)
After about 1 min I had to press esc.
"No design.
No Code.
No music.
No spirit.
jylam is definitly the worst coder ever, before rectum cauda.
Please stop smoking out scene with farts like that, and try doing something a bit *original* or at least *spiritfull*. (what I mean by this, is do a linux demo).
jylam on windows, haha! "
once more "kikiprods" and it's members have proven to be both incompetent and utterly stupid.
No Code.
No music.
No spirit.
jylam is definitly the worst coder ever, before rectum cauda.
Please stop smoking out scene with farts like that, and try doing something a bit *original* or at least *spiritfull*. (what I mean by this, is do a linux demo).
jylam on windows, haha! "
once more "kikiprods" and it's members have proven to be both incompetent and utterly stupid.
Not bad, but the music is too commercial-sounding for my personal tastes.
i got this mail:
"stupid!
it's from jylam....
occupy of your problems, noob"
i think that your capability to comprehend goes below sealevel. fucking frech idiot ;)
and who you calling a noob? you guys call yourselves 'kikiprods'.. oh come on.. stil wouldnt approve of that! typical french more-arrogant-than-worthy low-life useless motherfuckers.
go make another ugly totally-deprived-from-humor demo.
"stupid!
it's from jylam....
occupy of your problems, noob"
i think that your capability to comprehend goes below sealevel. fucking frech idiot ;)
and who you calling a noob? you guys call yourselves 'kikiprods'.. oh come on.. stil wouldnt approve of that! typical french more-arrogant-than-worthy low-life useless motherfuckers.
go make another ugly totally-deprived-from-humor demo.
must I recall you that this text comes from jylam ? (the "coder" of this demo)
so, who is stupid ? stupid steve-dave (c) (tm) (r)
i dont like jylam and this demo, can I express it ? pff
i prefer some of their older stuff, more diversified
so, who is stupid ? stupid steve-dave (c) (tm) (r)
i dont like jylam and this demo, can I express it ? pff
i prefer some of their older stuff, more diversified
the music is damn shagadelic ! :)
"must I recall you that this text comes from jylam ? (the "coder" of this demo)"
first have a look at your own horrible crap before bashing jylam. and to answer your actual question: yes i knew. you're just too stupid to interpret remarks and the possible thoughts behind them.
and to answer your second question: no you can't, you fucking faggot.
now go sit in a corner, "noob".
first have a look at your own horrible crap before bashing jylam. and to answer your actual question: yes i knew. you're just too stupid to interpret remarks and the possible thoughts behind them.
and to answer your second question: no you can't, you fucking faggot.
now go sit in a corner, "noob".
wOOt this is f*ckin cool !
Awesome soundtrack and Fra style, I want more ^^
Awesome soundtrack and Fra style, I want more ^^
thumb up, for the fun :)
So, Tawny, let's making some things clear.
"No design. No Code. No music. No spirit."
No design -> you like or not, you simply can't say there's no design (and I really like this one).
No Code -> maybe, that's right, not too much effects here, we were slapped by time, even if I think we can consider the (good) player as code anyway. I'm not responsible for this part, and it's a very good replayer we have.
No Music -> "ahahah". Sorry, you're just out of topic here. Maybe you dislike the music, hey it's art, sure not everyone will like it. I do, most of people think it feets perfectly the demo. You can have your opinion, but you can't say it's bad music (as your musician if I recall ok)
No Spirit -> I don't know what you want. I really can't understand this.
Conclusion : I don't know if you really enjoyed the demo, maybe, maybe not, and in fact, I don't care about this. What I care about, is the fact that you waited for the next demo I worked on, and you flamed it, just because I flamed your some *years* ago. It's quite lame to flame others work because you don't like me.
This demo is 1/ graphically nice 2/ smooth 3/ musically very good
And sorry, I keep my opinion, as MANY other guys, we can't say that about the crap bill gates thing you group released.
Just think 5mn before flaming.
(Jylam, who will be very happy to see this type of comments if they were constructives, at least a bit)
So, Tawny, let's making some things clear.
"No design. No Code. No music. No spirit."
No design -> you like or not, you simply can't say there's no design (and I really like this one).
No Code -> maybe, that's right, not too much effects here, we were slapped by time, even if I think we can consider the (good) player as code anyway. I'm not responsible for this part, and it's a very good replayer we have.
No Music -> "ahahah". Sorry, you're just out of topic here. Maybe you dislike the music, hey it's art, sure not everyone will like it. I do, most of people think it feets perfectly the demo. You can have your opinion, but you can't say it's bad music (as your musician if I recall ok)
No Spirit -> I don't know what you want. I really can't understand this.
Conclusion : I don't know if you really enjoyed the demo, maybe, maybe not, and in fact, I don't care about this. What I care about, is the fact that you waited for the next demo I worked on, and you flamed it, just because I flamed your some *years* ago. It's quite lame to flame others work because you don't like me.
This demo is 1/ graphically nice 2/ smooth 3/ musically very good
And sorry, I keep my opinion, as MANY other guys, we can't say that about the crap bill gates thing you group released.
Just think 5mn before flaming.
(Jylam, who will be very happy to see this type of comments if they were constructives, at least a bit)
Ho shit, forgot something :)
"jylam on windows, haha!"
1/ I never made a demo where bill gates is evil and the penguin an angel.
2/ The Linux version of the demo has been coded at the same time as the win32 version, expect release very soon
same conclusion as the top message
"jylam on windows, haha!"
1/ I never made a demo where bill gates is evil and the penguin an angel.
2/ The Linux version of the demo has been coded at the same time as the win32 version, expect release very soon
same conclusion as the top message
jylam: this win32 version already works with wine :p
bah
demo is ok but like couloir 14 and caillou...no news here....
Yeah! I've enjoyed this one a lot! great work, not too many demos important released since The S (for me), this reminds me the colouir style, so you guys have a style?¿ funny effect on that *Thombthumb alike* Red likes evolving, cool ilumination, and great shadowmaps- You've benn using Luminaire on this one? the music it's funny enough, and quite good sincro. BUT hey! there's some kind of bug, beware of the delay in the very first frames shown at the beginning, you're precalculing some tables? cause this, the music END before the demo, and looses some sincronism
I shouldn't have an opinion on this demo but i like for one reason : there was a great ambiance during its making of !
(i thumb it up because kenet thumb it down for stupid personal reasons)
(i thumb it up because kenet thumb it down for stupid personal reasons)
as you wish
watching too much Intense Pattern lately? >:)
Very nice soundtrack, average demo.
Whee, I got the 1337th download from scene.org :)
Anyway, just supporting norecess here, nice demo!
Anyway, just supporting norecess here, nice demo!
- loader and the not packed datas are not clean, black line bug too on my conf
+ great color scheme, ambience is good
++ music is very good, who sing ? Med or RedRibbon ? :-))
-+--+- too empty towns, some good cams, some bad cams, little bugs on lightmaps, cool robot, too simple synchros
+ is it a sequel of Orange Comes in 3D ? :)
+- more like a clip than a demo, good point!!! but too short
an OK prod.
+ great color scheme, ambience is good
++ music is very good, who sing ? Med or RedRibbon ? :-))
-+--+- too empty towns, some good cams, some bad cams, little bugs on lightmaps, cool robot, too simple synchros
+ is it a sequel of Orange Comes in 3D ? :)
+- more like a clip than a demo, good point!!! but too short
an OK prod.
nice and smooth ! I like the lightmaps
Rules a bit
zone : dead link in the pouet.net page
Knowing some of the graphics from times ago it's a pity it looks like a scene throwing in the end. Althought the music is good in itself it doesn't really fit the picture. Synchros are a bit dull and not so timed. On the positive side the graphic style is damn good but doesn't render as well as when I was first shown it (strange wires in the space burger, jaggy 16bit zbuffer, washed out 16 bit textures -> DirectX c'est naze mais Nono arrête OpenGL ou alors régle ces problémes! Tu les traine depuis une eternité!). The music is really good when listened out of the demo, there's was plenty of room for great visual work something Fra manage very well when he take the time to. I would have liked some framing effect during the landscape cuts, better video/audio coherence, even a thin story line to follow would have helped to compensate for the lack of rythm. Also I really hate 640x480 almost as much as my uxga tft does. Considering the currently available demo panel this one is okay to see but has major flaws.
a lightwave sceneplayer, but good scenes & music
tonton clafouti : the engine development is being stopped ; new framework is on the way (OOP rules!) ; GL is a nice cross-platform API but DX remains the best 3D API for Win platform ; Music is damn good and I agree, Fra artwork has not been extended to his limit due to the engine limitations...
Blah, don't know what to say, we will do better next time. Probably not a demo, things are evolving with time and I become more and more interested my videogame/tools programming..
Thanks for your comment!
Blah, don't know what to say, we will do better next time. Probably not a demo, things are evolving with time and I become more and more interested my videogame/tools programming..
Thanks for your comment!
plek is so kind!!!!!
It's ok. Scenes looks nice, but it's a bit boring and I don't like house-music.
I didn't like the music and the demo was quite short but other than that it was quite nice
Music is great, the rest is OK :/
this was nice.
the long loading times do not seem plausible though.
the long loading times do not seem plausible though.
Awesome prod
Tech side is kinda not great (long loading, it lags on new scenes and the sincro is ruined, some texture maps could be more optimised to save video memory)
But it got style !
Very nice design. Absolutely kickass groovy tune that would rock any dancefloor.
Sad that demo is so short, can I have it running looped please ?
Tech side is kinda not great (long loading, it lags on new scenes and the sincro is ruined, some texture maps could be more optimised to save video memory)
But it got style !
Very nice design. Absolutely kickass groovy tune that would rock any dancefloor.
Sad that demo is so short, can I have it running looped please ?
The music wasn't very interesting, but the red line is a good idea and carried out well. Very French.
nicely integrated, almost new
had some fresh stuff (red lines \o/) in it, but ended up being a normal 3d flybye after all. funky music didn't seem to fit together with the visuals too well either. definitely not bad either, but not quite enough for a thumb up.
It's just Lightwave scene player... but very good player! I love this demo, the best of all i music! Very good prod!
It's just Lightwave scene player... but very good player! I love this demo, the best of all i music! Very good prod!
very good player
I love this demo and great music!
good job on the music, visuals are a bit disappointing and look like a badly encoded mpeg stream. i hate 640x480 on nowadays monitor sizes...
fluff.
the music.. the gfx.. the direction... the athmosphere...
all fits so well together, wich makes out of a "simple lightwave player" a wonderful demo that makes me smile :-)
KUDOS!
all fits so well together, wich makes out of a "simple lightwave player" a wonderful demo that makes me smile :-)
KUDOS!
[C] - [O] - [O] - [L] - [!]
dull flyby.
Fra: WE WANT MORE!
Fra: WE WANT MORE!
Could compressed better, but I still like it!
real great atmosphere for what's mostly a flyby. ups!
good score
Vieux cons power :)
Flyby and music sucks.
Vieux cons power :)
@rez : Good memories for sure :)
Youtube video: http://youtu.be/acs9M275ECY
stylish
Fra: WE WANT MORE!
(also more of redribbon tunes!)
(also more of redribbon tunes!)
Nice design, excellent music
always liked this demo although nowadays it looks generic, nice music.
should have thumbed this, this was nice back then
i like it
legendary
Not sure someone mentioned it, but this demo ran entirely on JFYE, @NoRecess's Lightwave 6 scene player.
Indeed, 3D scene re-players were some kind of national specialty, here, in France, during the 90's-ish. Some liked it, but it admit the method in itself had some shortcoming.
Thanks Nono, Med, Jylam and the rest of the team for the great opportunity to work on this lil'cute prod.
Indeed, 3D scene re-players were some kind of national specialty, here, in France, during the 90's-ish. Some liked it, but it admit the method in itself had some shortcoming.
Thanks Nono, Med, Jylam and the rest of the team for the great opportunity to work on this lil'cute prod.
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