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Wolfenstrad by Dirty Minds [web]
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added on the 2012-03-18 00:45:17 by Optimus  |
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Cool demo Optimus! Great to see another one in a mixture of C and assembly language :).
rulez added on the 2012-03-18 01:48:21 by Octoate 
i know nothing about limitations of the platform, but it looks quite nice anyway
Great little demo Optimus!! Effects & colours are very nice. Well done..
I like it
video anyone? (:
youtube (kinda darken colors because video converter on CPC emulator screw up and I had to retry recording five times in two emuls :P)
a little long but still good.
Very good demo Optimus.
I think it can be yet be done faster.
It is a piggy for you for one reason: WHY DO YOU STILL RELEASE YOUR PRODS IN A SUCH BAD WAY!
We a are in 2012, you could at least hide all the not useful files...
I think it can be yet be done faster.
It is a piggy for you for one reason: WHY DO YOU STILL RELEASE YOUR PRODS IN A SUCH BAD WAY!
We a are in 2012, you could at least hide all the not useful files...
I didn't found it relevant (maybe the CPC scene does?). Great demos are released on PC and all the files are there. Does it make any demo worse?
neat museum with demoish objects and bigscreens ^^
looks and sounds great ( even i don't know anything about cpc but i don't fucking care :D )
looks and sounds great ( even i don't know anything about cpc but i don't fucking care :D )
damn, this is elegant!
ΟΜΓ, an Optimus demo that dowesn't suck on everything but the code! Neat idea, neat presentation and nice little engine :D
Amazing tour de force!
That makes me remember that a good demonstration is about pushing the limits. And that's what you've done here.
So it's a double thumb up for me.
Keep up the good work guys. I'd LOVE to play a Wolfenstrad game, that's for sure ;)
That makes me remember that a good demonstration is about pushing the limits. And that's what you've done here.
So it's a double thumb up for me.
Keep up the good work guys. I'd LOVE to play a Wolfenstrad game, that's for sure ;)
Very nice! Amstrad forever!
Well done Optimus... Great old Wolf effect (: I like it !
Looks and sounds very impressive.
There's a minor glitch on the left and right screen border, which is - i assume - why you mostly have scenes where the camera only rotates but does not move.
But that doesn't spoil the impressiveness one single bit.
I like it!
There's a minor glitch on the left and right screen border, which is - i assume - why you mostly have scenes where the camera only rotates but does not move.
But that doesn't spoil the impressiveness one single bit.
I like it!
:)
Damn, that cheered up my Sunday morning!
New version added, with simple catart and hidden files, for the convenience of your CPC cultural rules :)
We added a simple CATart in order to polish a bit more the whole thing.. If you want, you can download the new version in order to avoid comments like Krusty's one! ;)
Good surprise to watch it !
FX as texture are excellent idea. I also enjoyed camera's movements (not that easy to setup).
As Krusty pointed out, multiple files in directory gives slow loading and also gives me the feel that the demo is unpolished, which is sad.
Good job to everyone involved in this production !
FX as texture are excellent idea. I also enjoyed camera's movements (not that easy to setup).
As Krusty pointed out, multiple files in directory gives slow loading and also gives me the feel that the demo is unpolished, which is sad.
Good job to everyone involved in this production !
@norecess: we improved this, by adding a simple CATart in the latest version! We are sorry that we didn't think of it before uploading the very first version, but we tried to correct it! Please d/l the latest version.
yes!
Pretty awesome, my favourite aspect is the scrolling text on the walls. Is there a technical reason as to why there is a slight fisheye distortion?
@fizzer: I do apply for fisheye distortion but it's just not perfect. I am not sure why. And, there is a process which might make it loose more precision and one can see the walls are not perfectly straight when looking directly vertically at them but there are little inaccuracies, which is something I am willing to research further when I use this engine for a future project (game probably).
Nice production, good graphics and strong code ! I find the music a little bit strange, but just heared it on a emulator at the moment.
I don't agree with Krusty saying it needed a cart'art. If your prod does not fill a whole disk, why doing a cart'art... You just should have linked the prod in one or two files , that would have been cleaner :-).
I don't agree with Krusty saying it needed a cart'art. If your prod does not fill a whole disk, why doing a cart'art... You just should have linked the prod in one or two files , that would have been cleaner :-).
Vexing pace, music and colors.
Good
Admirable! It was a great idea to "write" effects on the walls. :) Yes, I remember various Wolfenstein engines for Spectrum and many of them had something moving on the walls but this idea is better and original... I like the tune, too.
Optimus: It looks a bit like you are offsetting the rays by the cosine of the ray angle in order to counter the fisheye effect. Do you have a regular step in angle between pixel columns? If so, this is incorrect. You should be either using the tangent of the ray angle or a linear transform.... Probably difficult on the ZX!
Oops... I meant CPC....
@voxfreax if your file structure is poor, and hides it with a cat'art, to me it's not an enhancement
@t&j,voxfreax,optimus: little misunderstanding. I did not give a piggie because there is no catart, but because, as NoRecess noticed, there are too many files in the disc (5 files for less than 60kb of data)
@t&j ". You just should have linked the prod in one or two files , that would have been cleaner :-). " is exactly what I wanted to say
@voxfreax,norecess: yes a catart to hide the garbage is not an enhancement ;)
Any it's cool for people not using real floppies.
The original argument was about hiding the data files. It wasn't about the number of files. Now, the argument has transfered to this and I don't even understand why. The thing is, it would be worthy to argue about this if I had for example 8 or 10 small files and the loading was really long, but I think I have packed most of the stuff in quite a fewer numer of files. There is a big file with code and data packed together in 24kb iirc (the maximum possible might be 32kb I think) and a loader file (wolf.bin) with some more data packed together that it was easier to fit there but they are together and not scattered in separate files, and only the two runseq 10kb each files that maybe could be fused together in a single one but it was easier this way the way I relocated stuff in extra memory in the loader. But this is what I have, it's one big code-data file, two additional data-files and the loader packed with other remaining data of last resort. I thought structure-wise the files were quite ok. I had 4, it could be at best 3 and things are quite fused together.
The thing is that this discussion has started with Krusty's mention of not hiding my files and went on to the claim that my file structure is horrible which is not the case and it would never happened we had the catart in the very first beggining and hell knows what I would find if I had seen the contents of other popular CPC demos with a viewer.
I am not sad about it, I am just puzzled. If I released the same demo on the C64 nobody would care about these things.
The thing is that this discussion has started with Krusty's mention of not hiding my files and went on to the claim that my file structure is horrible which is not the case and it would never happened we had the catart in the very first beggining and hell knows what I would find if I had seen the contents of other popular CPC demos with a viewer.
I am not sad about it, I am just puzzled. If I released the same demo on the C64 nobody would care about these things.
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Optimus: It looks a bit like you are offsetting the rays by the cosine of the ray angle in order to counter the fisheye effect. Do you have a regular step in angle between pixel columns? If so, this is incorrect. You should be either using the tangent of the ray angle or a linear transform.... Probably difficult on the ZX!
Yep, that's exactly what I did I think, what you say in the first sentence. Another possible reason was, the pixel resolution has twice wide pixel, then my column renderer draws a byte which is two pixels packed, and when I tried the cosine method from my PC raytracer I got a wrong result, maybe because I have to compensate for the ratio? (though, I am not sure). So then I compensated by multiplying a factor x2 to the cosine fishbowl correction data which also still didn't made it and found a value that was almost good. Your other suggestions are interesting too, thanks!
optimus the demo does not make hot coffee you should be better adding that feature as well! :)
solid effort
Go Optimus go!
Very good frame rate. I can remember some old Amiga 500 demos with wolf3d slower engine that this one.
Cat Art or file struct is an irrelevant debate for me when there are important technical achievements here.
Cat Art or file struct is an irrelevant debate for me when there are important technical achievements here.
Raycasting + textures on CPC = thumb up! However, I didn't like the music that much.
@Optimus: Yes, I said at least, without explaining what would be better.
However, I am a bit sad that you did not understand why it is important ;)
Voxfreax never say that to you that the disc is a mess while working in the project ?!
@Rhino: yes, but there is only one issue in BF, the same than Optimus' prod: a bad impression when looking on the disc the first time ;)
There are still people storing several demos per 3" discs.
I add a thumb up for having polluted to much this thread
However, I am a bit sad that you did not understand why it is important ;)
Voxfreax never say that to you that the disc is a mess while working in the project ?!
@Rhino: yes, but there is only one issue in BF, the same than Optimus' prod: a bad impression when looking on the disc the first time ;)
There are still people storing several demos per 3" discs.
I add a thumb up for having polluted to much this thread
Good effects on the cubes.
@optimus don't get me wrong, you prod is excellent and I would recommend anyone here to watch it again and again :)
@Krusty: Sorry, I never realized you were talking about the file structure and not just the fact I didn't hide the catalogue. Though, I find the "crimes" I committed with files are not so extraordinary. Maybe we should discuss this in an email so that we don't polute this thread though.
great prod Optimus! I didn't know you can do that :D
Wow unexpected new big release by our fellow Optimus! Great gfx and sound as well. (Voxfreax & Sice) Yes a new baby for the CPC to enjoy!
Amazing!
Even if it is some kind of cheating, no filled textures when depth movement happens, but a nice surprise somehow. You guys shlould have a closer look at the A8, if you like "3D" on 8 bit computers. It yells for "3d" action games to be done :D
I was going for a piggy, because while this is technically great, I got bored by watching it on the bigscreen rather quickly.
But, the people bitching about catarts and hidden files made me smile, so here's a thumb.
For CPC users storing multiple demos on the same dsik: don't you know of |user ? It's made just for that !
But, the people bitching about catarts and hidden files made me smile, so here's a thumb.
For CPC users storing multiple demos on the same dsik: don't you know of |user ? It's made just for that !
I'm going back and forth on this one. Good tech, but I'd have to say a bit boring and coder colors for no good reason. Using effects as textures is neat. Hm. Nope, I'm sticking with my gut feeling piggie.
Ace!
Thumb down for files structure!! :)
Just kidding. First, it's the best polished Dirty Mind's demo I saw, so nice progress on this side (Voxfreax work). The music is an old, but still good, Sice track. And I like the textured effects on the walls.
The little drawback is the fishbowl effect and the "Y rotator only" when it's textured. But I still like the prod, thumb Optimus and all the team!
Just kidding. First, it's the best polished Dirty Mind's demo I saw, so nice progress on this side (Voxfreax work). The music is an old, but still good, Sice track. And I like the textured effects on the walls.
The little drawback is the fishbowl effect and the "Y rotator only" when it's textured. But I still like the prod, thumb Optimus and all the team!
Rather dull and ugly, but not awful.
..-._!
one up.
pretty cool, but it tends to get boring pretty quick. it needs a little more fresh tune than this one. still, here's my thumb.
Nice speed and fx, I'd be happy pulling this off in DOS. :)
Really nice tech demo... :)
Cute ! Well polished... (funny effect on the walls).
Well done!
Wow, Optimus finallz made something out of his numerous effects he has lzing around!
oops, z and y reversed..
Great!
Congrats to the team.
Rocktimus!
nice engine
I just uploaded a more compact version Grim send me. Thanks!
Thumb-up for the technical side of things, but that apart it's very boring and way too long. Need some more speed in the movement and less ping ponging between two similar positions again and again.
absolutely stunning
what DBug said
Excellent.
sucks yes
nice dynamic textures. good work pal.
oh heck I want to alter my vote...
Very nice work. I want CPC!!!
I just wish I knew the CPC better so I could appreciate this more.
@knoeki: then learn more about it :) Feel free to roam around pushnpop.net and present yourself!
good job!
aye!
CPC thumb.
Not bad. Now, make it a game. ;)
Oh my, Optimus, you rule so badly! however, i sort of don't get the title; what is it supposed to mean?
@rac: Something like a wordplay between wolfenstein and amstrad, though there is more story of how we ended at that title :)
Great demo.
The choice of fonts isn't the best. It's hard to read the greetings.
The choice of fonts isn't the best. It's hard to read the greetings.
@xemobyl: the prototype fonts are clear enough imo... However, the techniques used by Optimus in this demo 'butchered' the whole gfx...
not that it's Optimus' fault... I just say what i believe...
Yep, it's usual problem of texture mapping effects to not represent well the graphicians work.
I think they will do fine for menu fonts in our game though, their fat style reminded me a little of Doom's options menu.
I think they will do fine for menu fonts in our game though, their fat style reminded me a little of Doom's options menu.
thought i gave my thumb already =)
Mein Leben .. started with a CPC
CPC rulez
Fucking awesome
well done
Good to have some Greek CPC stuff.
Starting out myself on a CPC 464 - this just blows me away.... amazing stuff!!!
cool
Nice,but can you make a game with your code ? :D
super, breakfast prod
Best Technical Achievement on CPC for year 2012.
So CPC can do it too :)
Needs to be released as a game! ^_^
Impressive coding as ever from Optimus!!!
Impressive coding as ever from Optimus!!!
Is there a write-up of the Wolfenstein engine technical details available? If not, do you plan to write some kind of tutorial or discuss some details?
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Is there a write-up of the Wolfenstein engine technical details available? If not, do you plan to write some kind of tutorial or discuss some details?
Sometimes I thought of writting one in the past, then forgot about it. Not sure I'll get motivated to do so soon.
great wolf
great
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