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AFAIR it was quite nice
rulez added on the 2007-04-10 20:15:27 by p01 
if not a bit too long, but very nice indeed! fuckings to XNA though, i watched the vid. great job.
thanks for the greetings, binaries please!
Firstie.
:) And this time 100 % promised NO SELFVOTES for this product, since we completely missed to vote for "la classe" consumation reasons.
yeah!
Golden greetings to all of you from GIANA.
She's an old fashioned girl, you know?!
She's an old fashioned girl, you know?!
trsi ... since the ice age... roxxx
WTF?
There is nothing in there that looks sufficiently advanced to justify a XBOX360 demo. Also ugly colors and bad flow.
There is nothing in there that looks sufficiently advanced to justify a XBOX360 demo. Also ugly colors and bad flow.
thanks for the 360 prod, but too dull, better luck next time!
i guess the platform could do MUCH better, but a firstie is a firstie. and actually this one looked good no matter what platform, 'cause h2o knows how to twist the pixels. only the blur was too much, especially on the starwars scroller part.
overrated
Maybe the most of you have not recognized, that this demo includes a fully playable Gianna Sisters ...
However we learned our lessons ...
In forthcomming production we dont count on oldschool amiga feelings anymore and try to arrive finally in the years after the amiga styled demos, since we recognized that only a few people get attracted by effects which impressed us so much in the past ...
However we learned our lessons ...
In forthcomming production we dont count on oldschool amiga feelings anymore and try to arrive finally in the years after the amiga styled demos, since we recognized that only a few people get attracted by effects which impressed us so much in the past ...
Nice one, but missing the final sync. ;)
very fresh and stylish, should have gotten 2nd place in my opinion
Like a big fat ugly Xbox360 commercial
for the effort and giana sisters!!
cool
Started out ok, but then ruined by the most obvious joke crap.
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However we learned our lessons ...
In forthcomming production we dont count on oldschool amiga feelings
This is not your and also not my opinion for true, the Giana Idea was the best in this demo. It was excactly that what we wanna see.... So don´t go the "Deutschland sucht den Superstar" Way - Keep on demoing this way how you like it to do - it was brilliant and i hope in the next demo is again a old-skool effect.
Greetz, AMI ;-)
RockZ.
>> i forgot to rate this prod <<...
Not bad, not that good either.. And not the first.
it started somewhat promising, but it was to empty and the oldschool votegrabbing thing didnt really appeal to me at all..
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However we learned our lessons ...
In forthcomming production we dont count on oldschool amiga feelings anymore and try to arrive finally in the years after the amiga styled demos, since we recognized that only a few people get attracted by effects which impressed us so much in the past ...
You get a thumb up for this statement! (and for making Shifter happy ;))
I've been very into XNA development latelly, so I was glad to see that one. Well I must confess that I was planning to make a XNA demo sooner or later...
I'd really like to take a look at the binaries.
Congrats guys!
I'd really like to take a look at the binaries.
Congrats guys!
goodie!
changing your own style to please ppl like okkie & shifter : binairy suicide !!!
stick with your own style instead of trying to make another forced farbraush or being the new future crew.
stick with your own style instead of trying to make another forced farbraush or being the new future crew.
+ massive growing weed (loads of polys, right? :))
+ the logo stuff (weed logo, xbox360, the bugs, etc)
+ giana sisters
- too repetitive (smurf village shown for eternity)
- confilicting styles (techno demo style rotating logo and growing stuff)
- nice to have a single colorscheme, but it doesn't fit with smurf color.. maybe some poisoned smurfs by gargamel?
it's technically not too impressive considering the hardware but it's a first..
overall: piggy. but keep up the good work!
+ the logo stuff (weed logo, xbox360, the bugs, etc)
+ giana sisters
- too repetitive (smurf village shown for eternity)
- confilicting styles (techno demo style rotating logo and growing stuff)
- nice to have a single colorscheme, but it doesn't fit with smurf color.. maybe some poisoned smurfs by gargamel?
it's technically not too impressive considering the hardware but it's a first..
overall: piggy. but keep up the good work!
tristar and red sector , just the name rox already! :).. luve this demos some good idéas like always.
Trsi forever
Trsi forever
VERY GOOD ! i need to thumb up !
is ok
At least one coder of the demo should say something...
I quite agree with all the comments here, good or bad... The demo could have been a lot better but we really wanted to release it for BP, so the final touch to polish it, remove some nasty bugs, make a better sync (even if the XNA sound API is really rubbish.... no good sound control) wasn't possible.
For the people who claims that the 360 can do better ? Yes ! But we use what Microsoft provides and currently it is limited to the embedded .Net compact framework + shaders (quite buggy for the moment, but released this year,look for XNA), so it is far from developping a native 360 demo. By the way, our goal was to code mostly oldskool efect with some nice effects, not to to a Farbrausch demo...
For the people asking for binaries ? A real issue to as IT IS NOT POSSIBLE, to run the demo on the xbox you have to provide the sources... and currently we don't want to... we're really oldskool ;-) We'll see later.
And I hope you liked the little game embedded.... This for sure will be provided later as a standalone version with the source and so on to be able to play it :D 8 levels ready for you !
And we wanted it to be the first real demo on the 360 (not a portage of old demos).. For sure the next 360 demos will be better but ours too :D
So just consider it as : a new beast is there ! Let's code demos on it !
I quite agree with all the comments here, good or bad... The demo could have been a lot better but we really wanted to release it for BP, so the final touch to polish it, remove some nasty bugs, make a better sync (even if the XNA sound API is really rubbish.... no good sound control) wasn't possible.
For the people who claims that the 360 can do better ? Yes ! But we use what Microsoft provides and currently it is limited to the embedded .Net compact framework + shaders (quite buggy for the moment, but released this year,look for XNA), so it is far from developping a native 360 demo. By the way, our goal was to code mostly oldskool efect with some nice effects, not to to a Farbrausch demo...
For the people asking for binaries ? A real issue to as IT IS NOT POSSIBLE, to run the demo on the xbox you have to provide the sources... and currently we don't want to... we're really oldskool ;-) We'll see later.
And I hope you liked the little game embedded.... This for sure will be provided later as a standalone version with the source and so on to be able to play it :D 8 levels ready for you !
And we wanted it to be the first real demo on the 360 (not a portage of old demos).. For sure the next 360 demos will be better but ours too :D
So just consider it as : a new beast is there ! Let's code demos on it !
For the first one factor. Keep doing it ;)
DHS in the greetings, instant thumb up ;-)
Not the best console demo I've seen but still I like it.
this one started out really good, then the oldskool shit started.. and you repeated the effects way too many times.
looking good isnt everything.
despite the effort and that it had a few ruling effects.. i still need to give it a thumb down, because it promised so much but failed to deliver.
looking good isnt everything.
despite the effort and that it had a few ruling effects.. i still need to give it a thumb down, because it promised so much but failed to deliver.
Evil : I will never forget my roots ;-)
never never never... There is still a bit of Kephy somewhere...
never never never... There is still a bit of Kephy somewhere...
i like it!
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A cool demo by a cool crew, with some good ideas. I particularly enjoyed the oldschool part.
[-] The color scheme makes it look like an official x360 advertisement
[-] Amiga boot screen? Fuck you! + all other oldschool faggotry (especially the Giana Sisters thing)
[-] Not releasing the binary or even the sources.
[-] Amiga boot screen? Fuck you! + all other oldschool faggotry (especially the Giana Sisters thing)
[-] Not releasing the binary or even the sources.
[quote]In forthcomming production we dont count on oldschool amiga feelings anymore and try to arrive finally in the years after the amiga styled demos, since we recognized that only a few people get attracted by effects which impressed us so much in the past ...[quote]
Cool! Sucking the large and scaly pecker of satan for the all mighty crowd pleasing.
Cool! Sucking the large and scaly pecker of satan for the all mighty crowd pleasing.
NOOOO THEY'LL BE STEALING MY BB-CODE SLASHES!! :O
[Q] "Fuck you! And all other oldschool faggotry (especially the Giana Sisters thing)" [Q]
Hmmm, little Giana is not the type of girl who appreciates four letter words. Send her flowers instead and behave nicely when a lady is around!
Hmmm, little Giana is not the type of girl who appreciates four letter words. Send her flowers instead and behave nicely when a lady is around!
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Cool! Sucking the large and scaly pecker of satan for the all mighty crowd pleasing.
You know what , i have the style i prefer, and goddamn i love the amiga late ecs times, i was always fighting for this styles, but listen ... 4 Prods and 4 times NOT ENOUGH people voting for our stuff, that means we are not state of the art ....
All who knows how good we can party, could only imagine the party we start once we get placed under the top 3 :)
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"Fuck you! And all other oldschool faggotry (especially the Giana Sisters thing)"
Calm down and stop spreading your cheap and stupid barking please, that helps noone ...
AND MAYBE YOU LEARN HOWTO QUOTE BEFORE GIVING SHIT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING SINCE MORE THAN 15 YEARS IN THE SCENE ...
Anyway lets give that new modern art a try, we all still dont wear no Hippie cord pants anymore, and this was cool too ( in the 70s )
Är det Joe Labero eller Tomas Brolin på bilden? eller en hybrid?
2007 the year of the come backs
what a MASSIVE prod
and even if it is on a xbox360, hey!
(joking hehe)
keep going keep going \o/
what a MASSIVE prod
and even if it is on a xbox360, hey!
(joking hehe)
keep going keep going \o/
I like it
oh, i just read that you won't be handing out binaries. Isn't that against the BP rules in some how?
anyways, mediocre demo with very bad coloring.
anyways, mediocre demo with very bad coloring.
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it started somewhat promising, but it was to empty and the oldschool votegrabbing thing didnt really appeal to me at all..
what ps said
Sorry if my words came out too strong, but seriously an Amiga boot screen image in a demo is about as "cool" as a fake blue screen of death...
my thumbdown is mainly aimed at retards who claim to be "oldskool", and then proceed to vote this quickie-prod over this masterpiece
the overall design and flow is really slick, only if some parts were shorter (growing trsi, jelly village). especially liked the transitions in the beginning. and some great ideas and crafted small details (bugs, upscroller, shadows on the main layout, background animations at parts). a great demo if you ask me.
and for people bashing this for being too xbox360ish: isn't using a style favoring the underlying platform preserving some consistency to the overall idea here, being amigaish that is?
and h2o talking about changing styles. i really wonder how it's output will be :)
and for people bashing this for being too xbox360ish: isn't using a style favoring the underlying platform preserving some consistency to the overall idea here, being amigaish that is?
and h2o talking about changing styles. i really wonder how it's output will be :)
I do like it to a certain extent. But really, that Amiga bootscreen did not add anything. Move on to new things. :-) It's not a bad demo but some parts looked way too recycled from your last psp demo (not that I don't like those effects, but, as with the amiga bootscreen, it's time for something new) and some parts are shown way too long so it gets boring. Nice to see first 360demo! :)
Enjoyable, yes. Perfect, no. XNA, ick.
Rasmus: I don't think you CAN provide binaries on 360/XNA. I don't know. Nor do I care. XNA = suck.
Rasmus: I don't think you CAN provide binaries on 360/XNA. I don't know. Nor do I care. XNA = suck.
Maybe TRSI needs a new supgrup to make some nice actual demos :) Masque, Nah-Kolor, Mellow Chips etc etc.. ;-)
Still a nice release !
Still a nice release !
nice rls..
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[b]AND MAYBE YOU LEARN HOWTO QUOTE BEFORE GIVING SHIT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING SINCE MORE THAN 15 YEARS IN THE SCENE ...[b]
"That's how you approach a king? That's how you approach moi. I've been 15 years deep! I run this shit!"
Sorry, couldn't resist :)
XNA/XBOX360 DON'T USE RUN BINARIES DIRECTLY SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RELEASE SOME ! BLAME MICROSOFT !
Damn could all those never-happy people read the comments before screaming ????
Havoc, that's fine to know that you considered us as "retards who claim to be "oldskool" :-(
So I guess I'm not welcome to Outline anymore... 8(
Damn could all those never-happy people read the comments before screaming ????
Havoc, that's fine to know that you considered us as "retards who claim to be "oldskool" :-(
So I guess I'm not welcome to Outline anymore... 8(
stay on psp then
Shazz: you won't miss much, Outline will be full of sick dutch fucks anyway ;)
Still haven't watched the prod btw, sorry :)
Still haven't watched the prod btw, sorry :)
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You know what , i have the style i prefer, and goddamn i love the amiga late ecs times, i was always fighting for this styles, but listen ... 4 Prods and 4 times NOT ENOUGH people voting for our stuff, that means we are not state of the art ....
Did I misunderstand this: You have a style you love but you're going to change it because you want people to vote you? I'll continue backing up the scaly pecker sentence :)
About this prod:
For the content it was too long. Design was otherwise ok.
shazz, you're jumping to conclusions there... like i said, my thumbdown was aimed at those who claim to be oldskool, and voted this prod above the wamma 4k in the BP compos. so it cannot be aimed at you- you said yourself that wamma deserved more than what they got- and that while your own prod would've been the first to lose a rank because of it. so i definitely do not have any beef with you personally- in fact, your sincerity in this case is something i admire.
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stay on psp then
TMB, do you really think the platform matters ?
I dont think so, its just to feel a bit of the spirit which has allmost disappeared in the new demos, offcause some exceptions ....
PSP was funny to use, x360 is too ....
@Havok :
Really believe me, nobody wants to have a beef, iam personal to old and i can use my time better, than to get in argue with people on this website.
We all should just enjoy that also the older ones are still doing some productions.
@okkie :
I didnt start acting rude, and this is general against my general attitudes ... But well you made a "strong" statement, what did you expect ... A thanks you slapped my ass answer ?
You all know what ?
We had fun doing this production, and a few parts remind me simply on the golden times of demoscene ...
If a few people had the same feeling, just a few, we reached the goal ....
Since when was I rude? I just put a timbo quote in there because, well, it fitted! :)
Stay relax people, it's only stupid computers!
Stay relax people, it's only stupid computers!
Itsenys!
STOP THE HATE .. plz. and i would like that trsi would make "more" modern demos
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my thumbdown is mainly aimed at retards who claim to be "oldskool", and then proceed to vote this quickie-prod over this masterpiece
Havoc, I am really shocked at your comments here... You are basically calling people like us, that have been around more likely since the times, when you still shit in your pants and couldn't event talk, "claim to be oldskoolers" and I can't even find a record about you that pre-dates 1999.. Dont get me wrong.. I dont know you personally and only found your name in the http://www.scene.nl/wiki/index.php/Havocand your picture in http://www.stniccc.com/html/scenemembers/216.htm so it makes me think: Are you really that piece of shit or do you only write here so somebody talks back to you?
ayatollah: insulting Havoc and giving your own prod a thumb up is probably not the best way to defend your work...
+ havoc is somebody who brought significant stuff to the demoscene, including Outline :)
+ havoc is somebody who brought significant stuff to the demoscene, including Outline :)
uhm , ayatollah, read the wiki page again, havoc is active since 1989, which is, afaik, a small bit longer than you are.
but stop that personal bullshit please.
also read once again what havoc said. he was neither attacking you nor this production i think.
but stop that personal bullshit please.
also read once again what havoc said. he was neither attacking you nor this production i think.
and i personally will take care that you two guys drink a kölsch together at evoke, because such a stupid personal beef on basically no reason is absolutely idiotic.
I have to go with Stingray here. And all the oldskool sucking up is ruining it for me.
some parts are cool, and it has nice musics in it.
ayatollah, i'd be interested to hear real arguments, if you have them. but i'm not falling for your kneejerk personal insults. just like you don't know me, i don't know you, and i'm not shortsighted enough to judge people based on 3 minutes of googling and a decade old picture.
H2O RULEZ !
not very good, but not completely bad either
Some parts are good, some are awesome and some are average at best. Use a tighter design next time (thus making it shorter and getting rid of the bad parts as well as too much nostalgia) and you'll have a potential compo-winner imo :)
O_O--b
Sorry for asking, but if the idea of releasing the source is such a biter for you guys, why develop on this platform? It's like complaining that the demoscene is for faggots and then attend a demoparty in drag :)
The XNA bit bites, not releasing anything sort of sucks. No thumbie, but thanks for making me happy :)
The XNA bit bites, not releasing anything sort of sucks. No thumbie, but thanks for making me happy :)
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It's like complaining that the demoscene is for faggots and then attend a demoparty in drag :)
or listen to italodisco with Okkie!
didn't like it :/
Binaries please!
With XNA Game Studio Express Refresh release, you can release it in binary format with "package as xna creators club game" feature, so no source code distribution needed.
I'll hold my thumb until binaries are out.
With XNA Game Studio Express Refresh release, you can release it in binary format with "package as xna creators club game" feature, so no source code distribution needed.
I'll hold my thumb until binaries are out.
So they paid a fee to microsoft to be able to do a demo on their console ?
neat stuff.
keep up the good work guys
keep up the good work guys
huh.. great stuff. respect to h2o and vigo
Thumbs Up for not making yet-another-peecee-demo on another platform. The design is REALLY different from peecee demos, I recognised more than half dozen effect remakes from excellent OCS Amiga demos.
-IF there is a next generation Amiga demo, this is it!
-IF there is a next generation Amiga demo, this is it!
nice clean style.
but time to move on to new shores id say :)
but time to move on to new shores id say :)
i like it... the "hidden part" rocks too :D
holy mother of god, this was tasteless.
Some nice and some dull parts.
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With XNA Game Studio Express Refresh release, you can release it in binary format with "package as xna creators club game" feature, so no source code distribution needed.
Wrong - the "package" deal is just one big blobfile containing all data _AND_ the source, it's just that its much easier to distribute the stuff this way cos its in one big file with all the settings included.
good gfx but... what preacher said.
ok, i stand corrected - apparently someone was wrong when i was acquiring information :)
gargaj, don't trust msdn forums :)
Actually the "ccgame" format is compact enough for 4k intros, as it's CAB based and consists just of the exe+resource files combined with a simple .resources file containing actual filenames and game title data etc.
Actually the "ccgame" format is compact enough for 4k intros, as it's CAB based and consists just of the exe+resource files combined with a simple .resources file containing actual filenames and game title data etc.
sorry, no.
Ok boys... we built a XNA ccgame package.... but that's rather big (140 Mb due to the music mostly (wav)...), we need first a place to upload it, any idea ?
scene.org
ok it is currently in way to
ftp://ftp.scene.org/incoming/parties/2007/breakpoint2007/wild/
I guess somebody from scene.org will move it to the right place later
have fun (but remember, an Xbox360 is not enough to run it, you need a Creators Club account from M$, that's the current price of homebrew... )
ftp://ftp.scene.org/incoming/parties/2007/breakpoint2007/wild/
I guess somebody from scene.org will move it to the right place later
have fun (but remember, an Xbox360 is not enough to run it, you need a Creators Club account from M$, that's the current price of homebrew... )
Can somebody update the download link to :
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2007/breakpoint07/wild/trsi_bloodymemories_201_xbox360.zip
thx
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2007/breakpoint07/wild/trsi_bloodymemories_201_xbox360.zip
thx
Updated.
So you paid to be allowed to do that demo ?
So you paid to be allowed to do that demo ?
We're lucky to have some M$ invitations.. but you're right.... else you have to pay a subscription to have homebrew possible (for the moment, I guess M$ will change its policy... or if some exploit is found...)
a pity but coding something on the Xbox360 was too appetizing... :D
a pity but coding something on the Xbox360 was too appetizing... :D
Good start anyway. Shazz: no more st stuff from you by the way? :)
Thanks Keops :D
No ST/Falcon stuff soon but something nice on unusual/not fully exploited hardware.... I hope this year...
eh eh and you ? I'm quite curious to see what you mean by "real multiplatform group"... Especially with Stingray (Scarab I guess -> Amiga) and Ultra (Cream I guess again -> ST/Falcon/VCS2600/amiga)
No ST/Falcon stuff soon but something nice on unusual/not fully exploited hardware.... I hope this year...
eh eh and you ? I'm quite curious to see what you mean by "real multiplatform group"... Especially with Stingray (Scarab I guess -> Amiga) and Ultra (Cream I guess again -> ST/Falcon/VCS2600/amiga)
Holy crap that binary package is huge! You should compress the audio track to XMA with the XACT tool.
Fragment : we tried but when compressed to XMA the demo wasn't working anymore... Dunno why :-( Maybe too big samples... Maybe the XNA refresh fixed the issue.... we'll try
Holy shit 130MB for a demo!?!?!?
the ´ music ´ :/ too much style overall.
(Nice) Oldschool effects on "so called" nextgen console... well it's cool for me
Anyway waiting for an original 360 demo
Anyway waiting for an original 360 demo
XNA or not.. The demo was really nice.
Looks nice and sounds nice, but.. eh.. I don't know.. Piggie.
nice one!
Its nice and my thumbs up is exactly because i like seeing "oldies" active!
Isn't this whole scene thing more about being creative than being competitive and judgemental?
Two things i would have done different about the demo: 1. slightly too many trsi-logo scene-changes 2. the break in the middle is like a smack in the face, pulling you out of the atmosphere.
Isn't this whole scene thing more about being creative than being competitive and judgemental?
Two things i would have done different about the demo: 1. slightly too many trsi-logo scene-changes 2. the break in the middle is like a smack in the face, pulling you out of the atmosphere.
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Really nice one, totally missed it.
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