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Realtime Radiosity 2 by Broncs [web]
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wooooOWW! realtime radiosity! rules! this demo have great ideas too! Broncs is a unknown group but the make a great demos!
added on the 2000-11-25 16:06:31 by mrdoob 
Awesome shit! Get it!
no fake, just try
Finally,. I can see how the realtime radiosity looks!
Although why with polygons and not geometric primitives like in raytracing demos? (E.g. pure perfect spheres, culinders, e.t.c..)
It looks uglier than raytracing,. but I like the soft shadows.. (And there must be perhaps some other cool things in this new radiosity thing I haven't noticed..)
Funny were also the silly antialiased 2d lines which morphed and had nummers on them!
Although why with polygons and not geometric primitives like in raytracing demos? (E.g. pure perfect spheres, culinders, e.t.c..)
It looks uglier than raytracing,. but I like the soft shadows.. (And there must be perhaps some other cool things in this new radiosity thing I haven't noticed..)
Funny were also the silly antialiased 2d lines which morphed and had nummers on them!
nothing much to say excepted that is a technically interesting demo...
In Czech - Parada, kluci jedni usati, jen tak dal.
In English - Very good stuff, music is very interesting track
In English - Very good stuff, music is very interesting track
this definitely is barbarz-art.
it's time for some radical action!
it's time for some radical action!
interesting prod, not the best use of radiosity
very good radiosity in real time!
music is good with the whole design
the 3d scenes are too colored in front of the digitized pictures
a good prod with lot of ideas and a political message against capitalism i think
music is good with the whole design
the 3d scenes are too colored in front of the digitized pictures
a good prod with lot of ideas and a political message against capitalism i think
'Hope I will never have to deal with those GANGSTERS :)
music rules, and the look of the radiosity scenes is funny
Shall we stop to call blurred gouraud "radiosity"? btw: what´s that "no mfx" written near the logo? :D
ok. stop. this may be radiosity.
you know, radiosity is radiosity and raytracing is raytracing. and the former is traditionally applied on gouraud polygons.
hmm. so there appears to be soft shadows but i haven't spotted any sure evidence of complex diffuse interaction or colour bleeding. reason for other may lie in resolution and for another that the lighting is probably calculated monochromatically.
either those, or that the algorithm is carried only one level deep or it's faked with some other shadow-algos. (but what would be the point, those are not that simple either)
you know, radiosity is radiosity and raytracing is raytracing. and the former is traditionally applied on gouraud polygons.
hmm. so there appears to be soft shadows but i haven't spotted any sure evidence of complex diffuse interaction or colour bleeding. reason for other may lie in resolution and for another that the lighting is probably calculated monochromatically.
either those, or that the algorithm is carried only one level deep or it's faked with some other shadow-algos. (but what would be the point, those are not that simple either)
Yes, well...here's me thinking that demos were all about trying to get the ultimate out of your machine, or a least *faking* it. "7800 phong polys" and "262144 colors" spring to mind =)
Fake or not, looks okay.
Fake or not, looks okay.
ok, I am half convinced (tho I want to see some color emission, shadows are not enough). But what about the "no mfx"? :D
well, "no mfx" probably means that they are no mfx. or something. bleh. 8]
Its stupid to name it "REALTIME radiosity 2" when it was more like "SLIDESHOW BLURED 2" :)
rr2 is realtime monochromatic monte-carlo radiosity powered by hi-optimized ray-shooting over BSP-trees with discontinuity mashing, clusters and gouraud interpolation... based on results from reserach in dee's diploma thesis. you see the most complex coda in demoscene production ever... dee is radiosity guru.
"no mfx" means no poor tgr3 radiosity... :-)
nobody'll beet az!
"no mfx" means no poor tgr3 radiosity... :-)
nobody'll beet az!
how impressive! until this, the most complex coda I've seen in a demoscene production was a timelapse polytronic las-vegas final gathering powered by battery-energized laser-blasting elves over LAX-woods with nonsingularity smashing lacklusters and reagan extrapolation.
Very impressive... Where's the radiosity, anyway? It's hidden by those shitty dancing triangles? O:-)
world isn´t ready for this huge inovative progress in global illumination research,
only next generations will understand! :-)))
rr2: beetL in yaR head!
only next generations will understand! :-)))
rr2: beetL in yaR head!
nah.
just that t3 had no radiosity=) even the infofile says so. can't people read or what?-)
sorry, i dont like it. Just another demo.... Poor music, some old photos and a dull 3d with "radiosity"... not enough to remember it.
Dixie! "no MFX" like "Parental Advisory" cos MFX are my fave porn stars ! :D
Rio: Were pornstars already? Did I make such a lasting impression on you a year ago=D
ok, guyz! let's make better looking realtime "radiosity" with soft shadows and diffusion reflections... hu!
rr2 iz only kick off for another coderz. They colud make it much more beter!
broncs loves these chat ego battles! :-))
rr2 iz only kick off for another coderz. They colud make it much more beter!
broncs loves these chat ego battles! :-))
FAKE!
The first was a mpeg video.
The second is precomputed. All scenes are cyclic.
If you want to prove that is a true real time radiosity, execute your algorithm on a long acyclic scene that cannot been precomputed, or on a random scene.
RR3 ?
The first was a mpeg video.
The second is precomputed. All scenes are cyclic.
If you want to prove that is a true real time radiosity, execute your algorithm on a long acyclic scene that cannot been precomputed, or on a random scene.
RR3 ?
I kind of liked this prod...
There's certainly no indications of mpeg anywhere... nor of radiosity ;) It looks like a raytracer that feeds a gouraud rasterizer. I certainly don't see any bleeding, with characterizes a radiosity illumination (and what makes look so good).
However, the prod is kind of nice
There's certainly no indications of mpeg anywhere... nor of radiosity ;) It looks like a raytracer that feeds a gouraud rasterizer. I certainly don't see any bleeding, with characterizes a radiosity illumination (and what makes look so good).
However, the prod is kind of nice
Is this a prod from Broncs? Lol! I had witnessed their attitude with fake 256byte intros lately!!! And now I come back on that,.. so they are just kidding by saaying it's radiosity?? (Damn,. how radiosity would really look like?)
http://broncs.scene.cz/prodz/rr.rar is their first demo on "realtime radiosity".
In rr.dat at offset 50982 start the mpeg file.
I myself work on realtime radiosity...
"No fake"...
In rr.dat at offset 50982 start the mpeg file.
I myself work on realtime radiosity...
"No fake"...
http://broncs.scene.cz/prodz/rr.rar is their first demo on "realtime radiosity".
In rr.dat at offset 50982 start the mpeg file.
I myself work on realtime radiosity...
"No fake"...
In rr.dat at offset 50982 start the mpeg file.
I myself work on realtime radiosity...
"No fake"...
It was a good trial.
If this is a "real-time
radiosity", I have not seen seldom such demo until now.
anyway, Very was impressive.:)
If this is a "real-time
radiosity", I have not seen seldom such demo until now.
anyway, Very was impressive.:)
Jesus H. Christ. It seems that all you need is a buzzword like 'radiosity' (which people don't even seem to understand) and suddenly it's 'awesome shit'.
Love the visuals, except radiosity scenes that exceeds and lacks of the cool overall design of the demo imho
these guys can't code :)
<url=http://blueli.felk.cvut.cz/~sykorad/rr.zip>hi-akademik link!</url>
Maybe not real realtime radiosity but close one.Nice colors, warm atmosphere. Maybe it is too early for a realtime implementation of this technique, but the emulated color bleeding looks nice!!
the quality of the gfx is infinitesimally better than the political shit. delete it.
are our families destroyed by feminism ? i really can't say that of mine.
not my kind of demo. sorry.
I enjoyed this one. Neat design/colors for the 2D parts
yeah aha
New win32 executable is also available here...
Accelerated realtime radiosity? No prob! Try this...
hm.
Odd one. But certainly not uninteresting at all.
the way i see it, the only really bad thing about this demo is its name. calling it after the effect reduces it unnecessarily. i actually dig the design of the other parts, especially the retro pics. music is cool too. i doubt there is any real radiosity in there anyway... it's just colored light sources and soft shadows - but well done at any rate.
Liked the coder-colors on the pseudo-radiosity scenes :)
Interesting music and different look (previous C-64 people?), but the radiosity just didn't show, looks more like fake use of lights + weird rendering noise.
Still, has that little something to it.
Still, has that little something to it.
ABSOLUTE SHIT!!!
don: note that this is 3 years old. how many better demos with realtime radiosity have you seen in the year of 2000 or before? or.. have you even implemented it?
oh god, horrible music!
i like the demo cuz i love radiosity!! and in realtime WOWW! and in year 2000!
i like the demo cuz i love radiosity!! and in realtime WOWW! and in year 2000!
Ugly in the extreme
whatever you say: its still one of my favourites! not only the technical side (fake or not: it looks GOOD and its FAST!) but also the sick music, gfx and texts..
!BRONCS!
!BRONCS!
and btw: name another demo-engine that is able to simulate the light-transport across mirrors..
(this scene (see screenshot) blew me away back then when watching it on my rusty amd k6)
(this scene (see screenshot) blew me away back then when watching it on my rusty amd k6)
<3
The radiosity(?) engine is rather cool and would receive thumbs up if the rest of the intro was up to par, but even though I'm enthusiastic about putting political content into demos, it didn't fit in at all and looked like crap. So piggie.
One nice scene (on the screenshot), few nice gfx's (ie. the end credits), not-so-amazings soundtrack and the effect, well... I'm not so convinced that it is for real and not a trick. Guess that's the problem.
Nothing impressive, some flaws. Especially the low resolution bugged me. The art didn't fit for the resolution, would have looked a lot better if doubled to 640x480. Not a bad demo, though. Has much potential in it. I liked - and I agree (to) - the announcement you gave.
Nothing impressive, some flaws. Especially the low resolution bugged me. The art didn't fit for the resolution, would have looked a lot better if doubled to 640x480. Not a bad demo, though. Has much potential in it. I liked - and I agree (to) - the announcement you gave.
OMG LOOK HOW L33T THEY ARE :O
(btw, the whole thing is precomputed, the lighting data are in xor-encoded PNG files :)
(btw, the whole thing is precomputed, the lighting data are in xor-encoded PNG files :)
wow, those photos are lovely :)
evil gargaj.. you just destroyed my illusions of it being realtime.. ;-(
The radiosity is great, the rest isn´t and the music is not really my taste...
So all in all its a pig for me!
So all in all its a pig for me!
what part of the realtime is precalced during the slow 2d line parts?
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it still looks like shit even if it's real
If you must boast of you technical expertiiize, do it beautifully. A record sucks if quality is neglected.
fuck radiosity this is some hot stuff!
nice
Result looks real, that's it ;o)
Klucí, co takhle návrat a nějaký nový demčo?
Klucí, co takhle návrat a nějaký nový demčo?
childhood!
Music just killed the demo.
underwhelming, and what branch said
Good potential but the ending is not very cute.
What a strange mix of oddball/reactionary political messages and pseudo-advanced effects.
Hahaha, never noticed the messages in the past. That's years before all the anti-feminism arguments on the internet. Now it's relevant.
Fake it 'til you make it!
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