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release date : december 2024
release party : Silly Venture 2024
compo : atari xl demo
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added on the 2024-12-10 21:13:57 by Dante^RDC Dante^RDC

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Amazing demo!
rulez added on the 2024-12-10 23:13:49 by as... as...
YT link before pouët confirms it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvV_9bvjYK8
added on the 2024-12-10 23:23:11 by jammer jammer
Copying data and porting code without giving credits? Well, there’s no excuse for such lame behaviour, not even running out of time.
sucks added on the 2024-12-10 23:45:51 by platon42 platon42
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Copying data and porting code without giving credits? Well, there’s no excuse for such lame behaviour, not even running out of time.

Regarding the code porting... The code has been 100% written from scratch and not even one line of code in our demo is ported from anything.

Regarding the Feyd face uvmap... It is an open sourced asset from Amiga demo "Inside the Machine" by DESiRE and we honored it's usage by putting "Special thanks for DESiRE" in our nfo file.
So, it's worth to read the nfo file before you shouting such a negative feedback...
added on the 2024-12-11 01:41:57 by Dante^RDC Dante^RDC
Very impressive. And fresh out of the oven.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 02:26:15 by ssoft ssoft
Yeah...
Couldn't you at least use another 3D source for the uvmap?
Just copying entire stuff from other demos is a bit ... lame, no?
(I could kick in open doors about Atari copying Amiga stuff, but let's not go there)
Even if running out of time, give some proper credits, will ya, takes one second.
sucks added on the 2024-12-11 04:27:36 by Steffest Steffest
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Yeah...
Couldn't you at least use another 3D source for the uvmap?
Just copying entire stuff from other demos is a bit ... lame, no?
(I could kick in open doors about Atari copying Amiga stuff, but let's not go there)
Even if running out of time, give some proper credits, will ya, takes one second.


Correct me if I'm wrong but I cannot recall Desire crediting anywhere in the demo Andrey Dudka who is the author of Feyd Rautha's blender model, surely used to produce uv output:
https://blenderartists.org/t/feyd-rautha-harkonnen-dune-2-likeness-sculpt-and-animation/1466296
added on the 2024-12-11 04:47:28 by jammer jammer
Deserved winner. Distinct style in the demo. It's great to have new people doing stuff for the Atari 8-bits!
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 06:24:52 by JAC! JAC!
Rólu !!! ;)
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 06:26:36 by Tiger Tiger
I really like it.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 06:27:39 by pps pps
Great show!
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 06:48:28 by MKM MKM
cool prod and interesting a8 soundtrack, which alone is rare.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 07:19:46 by hollowone hollowone
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Quote:
Yeah...
Couldn't you at least use another 3D source for the uvmap?
Just copying entire stuff from other demos is a bit ... lame, no?
(I could kick in open doors about Atari copying Amiga stuff, but let's not go there)
Even if running out of time, give some proper credits, will ya, takes one second.


Correct me if I'm wrong but I cannot recall Desire crediting anywhere in the demo Andrey Dudka who is the author of Feyd Rautha's blender model, surely used to produce uv output:
https://blenderartists.org/t/feyd-rautha-harkonnen-dune-2-likeness-sculpt-and-animation/1466296


That's ironic.
I guess we are all rippers now :)
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 07:31:39 by Optimus Optimus
Nice demo!

Started a bit weak, but got better as it progressed. The horizontal palette switching in one the effect was the highlight for me.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 07:53:08 by britelite britelite
^

And serious *sigh* for the porting/credit/ripping comments.
Get a grip folks.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 08:35:42 by p01 p01
Absolutely fantastic demo, thanks to everyone involved in its creation. It was an honor for me to see it at our party. Thank you and we ask for more! :) p.s. Apart from the effects, it is worth mentioning the music - it is simply amazing! Well done, Jammer! <3
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 08:49:02 by grey grey
A quality prod!
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 09:40:53 by laoong laoong
great
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 11:02:00 by Blast! Blast!
Really good demo!
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 11:15:47 by dox dox
It's really good!
Looks like the XL/XE platform has many possible profiles. Can you tell about the specs of the computer the video was shot on?
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 14:33:59 by Soundy Soundy
Super awersome demo, new way to show "gr9" looks great. Kudos!
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 15:27:47 by Solo_NG Solo_NG
Great job, guys!
More of it please!
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 16:36:01 by miker miker
impressive
added on the 2024-12-11 16:46:03 by _GandalF_ _GandalF_
rocks
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 17:12:39 by Pator Pator
cool prod
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 20:52:00 by Foster Foster
Cool effects and I really like the "post-processing" colorizations. But I feel it's a bit repetitive, and more graphics and design would have improved it a lot.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 22:33:40 by Murphy Murphy
What Murphy said.
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 22:45:43 by edhellon edhellon
nice prod , I don't see a problem in using effects or assets from higher platforms - of course, if they are generally free available or with the authors' permission, it's nice that I could add at least a small brick in the wall - fast lzss player ;)
rulez added on the 2024-12-11 23:10:15 by swiety_zlx swiety_zlx
nice work, pretty cool music
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 08:10:03 by remdy remdy
Amazing demo with amazing effects and amazing music!!
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 11:28:58 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
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it's nice that I could add at least a small brick in the wall - fast lzss player ;)

No LZSS decompression here ;) Music uses my own driver which sends everything to buffer at $4000 and Dante can pass these values to more convenient spots, used during DLI calls :)
added on the 2024-12-12 15:30:44 by jammer jammer
doesnt work on real atari.. :/
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 17:13:27 by w1k w1k
My favourite 8-bit Atari prod of the party. Pushes things a bit harder/further.
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 17:33:24 by CiH CiH
good one
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 17:38:20 by SiR SiR
2024 is a weird year. Many things happened to the Atari, I was proposing since decades.
Great, to see missing things done. Thanks.
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 22:05:49 by emkay emkay
Awesome demo, congratz!
rulez added on the 2024-12-12 23:29:35 by sachy sachy
It's funny that Desire didn't come up with the same idea as us and with its own effect ;) hmm
rulez added on the 2024-12-13 00:11:57 by blasph blasph
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It's funny that Desire didn't come up with the same idea as us and with its own effect ;) hmm


Oh nice. So much for special thanks then I guess.

I was actually really hyped to see you were taking this effect to Atari 8 bit, and was more than happy to offer technical help when Dante reached out to me. I’ll admit I would have preferred to see you use different data like you said you would, but I don’t have a problem with it, and even if I did you can do as you wish.

Others are entitled to think that it’s lame, just as I think your snarky comment and self-thumb are lame.
sucks added on the 2024-12-13 10:04:29 by gigabates gigabates
I'd like only to point out that comment by Blasph absolutely doesn't reflect my own stance (and I can speak for myself, obviously) :-(

As much as I'm not a fan of first reactions from Desire guys, Feyd's head was more of a sad aftermath of incredibly short workspan, nothing lazy or ill natured. Demo almost had a custom uvmap as toolchain/shaders have been worked out last minute but there was too little time to figure out nice base models and shots with them. Asset used in Desire's demo was supposed to be only a temp one but, unfortunately, stayed in to have anything there.

I'm really grateful to all the folks who either helped with making process or expressed some understanding to the circumstances above. Thank you and cheers! <3
added on the 2024-12-13 16:55:21 by jammer jammer
I completely confirm what Jammer said.

I would like to emphasize that what Blasph wrote in his comment absolutely doesn't reflect my stance and was never the reason of why I wanted to implement this effect on Atari 8-bit.
added on the 2024-12-13 18:13:47 by Dante^RDC Dante^RDC
Thanks Jammer and Dante, I appreciate that.
added on the 2024-12-13 18:36:45 by gigabates gigabates
Wow!
rulez added on the 2024-12-14 00:33:36 by SuN SuN
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doesnt work on real atari.. :/

Before the release, we intensively tested our demo on 65XE with U1MB and AVGCART as a xex launcher. Today I tested it on 130XE with 1MB extension provided by SUBCART. I ran it a few times in a row and it did work flawlesly.

I think you should check your 1MB extension for hardware issues as IIRC you also weren't able to run Rewind 2 on your hw while on lots of other units it did work without any problems.
added on the 2024-12-14 00:55:20 by Dante^RDC Dante^RDC
Nice
rulez added on the 2024-12-14 17:32:26 by Frequent Frequent
Great demo.
rulez added on the 2024-12-14 19:47:07 by gorzyga gorzyga
Dante unleashed!
rulez added on the 2024-12-14 19:52:13 by Sebaloz Sebaloz
Great job guys! What a nice team! First Radiance demo on atari8 by amiga coder!
rulez added on the 2024-12-14 20:14:36 by luke luke
Impressive and climatic! I regret that I missed this demoparty. Diune motiv fits perfectly.
rulez added on the 2024-12-14 22:26:52 by panjanek123 panjanek123
great demo!
rulez added on the 2024-12-15 20:20:11 by piter_jnf af piter_jnf af
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doesnt work on real atari.. :/

Before the release, we intensively tested our demo on 65XE with U1MB and AVGCART as a xex launcher. Today I tested it on 130XE with 1MB extension provided by SUBCART. I ran it a few times in a row and it did work flawlesly.

I think you should check your 1MB extension for hardware issues as IIRC you also weren't able to run Rewind 2 on your hw while on lots of other units it did work without any problems.


hundreds and hundreds demos working on my setup........ only this demo. problem is comewhere in code, fix it please. try load with sio2sd, sio2pc, side3
added on the 2024-12-16 16:26:04 by w1k w1k
Amiga, C64, Atari and PC united in the same demo. What a time to be alive!
rulez added on the 2024-12-16 23:40:28 by Borys Borys
Very good to watch. Congratulations.
rulez added on the 2024-12-17 07:58:03 by tjahzi(aka Jimi) tjahzi(aka Jimi)
Great job! Radiance rulez! :)
rulez added on the 2024-12-17 15:53:29 by Qix Qix
A fresh air in Atari 8-bit demo coding. Pleasant to watch on big screen!

And I hope it goes without saying, ignore all the armchair experts - usually those with the strongest opinions offer zero contribution to the scene, especially the one they are commenting on.
rulez added on the 2024-12-17 21:39:53 by MiKRO MiKRO
wow
rulez added on the 2024-12-17 23:30:46 by nullgravity nullgravity
Great work!! One says level up! But the others says next step... back to Amiga :) Congratz, great prod dudez!!!
rulez added on the 2024-12-18 00:35:13 by Norby Norby
that head did seem familiar but couldn't place it, now that i read the comments i realize it was from desire's deadline demo!

shame it didn't get replaced in the end and caused this bad blood between you all. particularly funny to read demands for exact credits when they weren't given in the original. :D wish everyone would care as much to write proper creditting infofiles as they seem to care about reuse of assets and ideas.

anyways, drama aside: thumb up for the hicolor effects trickery.
rulez added on the 2024-12-18 01:02:08 by psenough psenough
Well, What can I say, FUCKING AWESOME!

IN SHORT:

A friend of mine, Informer / Appendix (right now Dante / Radiance) implemented his own Amiga effects on Atari XL/XE with brilliant tune (which is not so easy).

That in short.

In full : it's not fucking easy, it's a small game changer on Atari XL/XE I think.
rulez added on the 2024-12-18 02:54:44 by madbart madbart
Sounds and looks great! Way to go Dante and ohers!
rulez added on the 2024-12-18 14:26:46 by costa.msm costa.msm
dope !
rulez added on the 2024-12-18 14:30:22 by Zenial Zenial
so much emotion over a single demo... thoughts fly almost as fast as atari itself :D
added on the 2024-12-18 15:38:47 by hollowone hollowone
Dope demo! Looks like an Amiga production! Good job Dante!
rulez added on the 2024-12-18 17:44:41 by tzx tzx
Nice one, congrats Dante & Co. (not the music, turned that off after 15 secs). Thumb up for the flamewar in the comments :D
rulez added on the 2024-12-19 12:57:53 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Really nice one.
Would personally keep some effects for a shorter time, but OK ;).
Gfx and music are good as well. Kudos Jammer for doing stuff on the Atari, as well, you commodore freak (joking ;).
The only "issue" for me is that it needs 1MB =S. But probably that's why this demo is huge =).

Well, well... Hum...
Personally, why thumbing down "because "XYZ" group used that effect first." Or perhaps, when we know already the face's origins, should we go and thumb the other group's production down, because they used other's ppl work, as well?...
Nonsense...

We are doing stuff for the fun of it (I suppose) and one could be proud that others are being inspired =). At least what I think.

Greetz dudez!
added on the 2024-12-19 13:48:58 by sim sim
OK.
added on the 2024-12-22 04:14:35 by AntDude AntDude

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