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Preacher, consider visiting the Kröller-Müller museum. It's one of the country's better museums of modern art, and it's about as in the middle as nowhere as you can get. Getting there by public transport is "interesting", and therefore somewhat memorable in its own right. You take a train to Arnhem, then a bus to $SHITHOLE, then you walk from the bus stop to the edge of the national park, there you fetch a bike (free once you paid the park entrance fee) and use it to bike to the museum. And around, because the museum is right in the middle of said national park. Plenty good hotels nearby too, and good hipster food in Arnhem.

it's also within biking distance of the amazing Radio Kootwijk:

That sounds really appealing in a weird way, to be honest.

If it's gonna be Arnhem and you want to take the weird to a new level, you might want to consider booking a room at the world famous hotel De Bilderberg :)

Yeah, Arnhem will be cheap to stay, not sure about the 'hipster food' tho. Rotterdam would also be a good option, as it's less touristy than Amsterdam so def cheaper and it has a good train connection to Breda/Tilburg.

Or somewhere in the South if you need to be in Tilburg anyway, you can stay there or in Eindhoven.

Remember that everything is pretty much an hour or 2 away from anywhere, so unless you go to the the north or deep south, you can get to anywhere p easy by train.

If you go the Kroller-Muller route, you might as well stay at Camping de Hoge Veluwe

ok listen to okkie about the hipster food. i just realized that i consider any place that sells >0 bagels to be "hipster food".

and if you end up staying in eindhoven somehow then let's have a beer! also i know all the hipster food places in eindhoven (all 4).

Mind the trajet control!
Each trip to the NL results in a financal desaster here.. ;)

Maybe try driving within the speed limits. Just a suggestion.

Knoeki: What speed limit should Dascon stick to though? 80, 100, 120, 130, 100/120 or 100/130? ;)

Dascon: Here's the maximum speeds in Holland per 1/1/2017, with this map you "will never have a problem again" (COUGH COUGH :))

Havoc: Ok, I'll admit I'm not a driver, but don't they usually post the speed limits pretty clearly?

Knoeki: The signs are clear enough but IMHO they are fucking over unsuspecting/non-local drivers in a lot of places where there's only 1 sign before you break the speed limit. Especially if it's a situation with >2 lanes you can quite easily miss a single sign, for example when overtaking a truck or some other larger vehicle. Near my place there's a situation where you come with 130km/h into a 100km zone, there's only a single sign and it's 50m before an exit that goes under a flyover, right where the road goes from 2 to 3 lanes and immediatly after are huge signs above the road indicating the next exit and another extra lane that is added a few hundred meters beyond. I see some of your neighbours and Dascon's countrymen completely overlook that single 100km sign almost every time I'm driving there, and tbh, I can't really blame them, because I've been stopped by police and/or flashed myself in similar situations in other parts of the country on several occasions ;)

Havoc, I have a very hard time believing that that's evil and not incompetence.

I live in Rotterdam, that says enough I guess.

@havoc: you've been 'flashed on several occasions'? :D

Skrebbel, it's been like that for years, so imho incompetence can't be claimed anymore. I guess negligence is a more suitable term.. :)

the solution is to not have a car tbh

thanks to this thread i visited the Radio Kootwijk area today \:D/, it is only about 150km from my place.

very nice Kootwijkerzand nearby - quite desert dreamish =)

jup, radio kootwijk building is awesome. one of the best art deco buildings ever made imho :)