iPad as a scene platorm
category: general [glöplog]
I wish you the best of luck with those Chinese Android tablets. You're going to need it.
crosbow: there's 2 parts to fanboying, defending your chosen platform to the death, and mercilessly attacking the 'enemy' platform beyond all reasonable point. You've been doing that 2nd part, look back through the thread :)
Eh, and that app is kind of a 'fun app' with not much real point :( But then, so are demos. This at least has some coolness I think, and the tech side is not bad. True soul cancer is making a fart piano ;)
exin: just keep in mind 'you get what you pay for'. These chinese cheap tablets are *not* in the same league as an ipad. They are cheap, and pretty shitty. I've seen quite a few reviewed, and basically they are a tablet, yes, and they are cheap, yes, but they're not something you would want to actually use. Slow, bad quality, old OS, no support, this is the kind of stuff you will get. And a screen so bad you can't use it in portrait mode without a headache.
There are some decent android tablets, but they cost similar to the ipad. Asus is rumoured to be making something decent and cheap, but we'll have to see if they cut some big corners.
Eh, and that app is kind of a 'fun app' with not much real point :( But then, so are demos. This at least has some coolness I think, and the tech side is not bad. True soul cancer is making a fart piano ;)
exin: just keep in mind 'you get what you pay for'. These chinese cheap tablets are *not* in the same league as an ipad. They are cheap, and pretty shitty. I've seen quite a few reviewed, and basically they are a tablet, yes, and they are cheap, yes, but they're not something you would want to actually use. Slow, bad quality, old OS, no support, this is the kind of stuff you will get. And a screen so bad you can't use it in portrait mode without a headache.
There are some decent android tablets, but they cost similar to the ipad. Asus is rumoured to be making something decent and cheap, but we'll have to see if they cut some big corners.
psonice: but I can't be a fanboy if I'm not favouring something over Apple! Also my cigarettes are out :( Do I really have to smoke that dust dry tabacco I still have?
Yeah, those fart apps are worst, and facebook is even worser. But what can I do? I'm a little internet kid, not Silverster Stallone :(
Yeah, those fart apps are worst, and facebook is even worser. But what can I do? I'm a little internet kid, not Silverster Stallone :(
Alright, can we compromise on hater? :)
Actually, I have seen worse than the fart apps on the app store. Much, much worse.
Some devs make really shitty apps. Nothing fundamentally wrong with them, they're just poor gimmicks or very low quality. Of course, few people will buy such shit, and the reviews will be terrible, right?
No. Because the devs pay a "marketing company" to get their app in the charts. The "marketing company" then "buys" many copies of the app to get it in the chart, and leaves many 5* "reviews". Then lots of people see an app in the chart, with glowing reviews, and buy it.. and leave 1* reviews saying it's shit but by then it's too late and the app doesn't stop selling until there's enough 1* reviews to drag the rating right down (at which point the dev updates it, clearing the rating, and repeats).
But wait, you can only buy 1 copy of an app with 1 itunes account? How can you buy many thousands? Easy, steal the account details for lots of people and buy it with their credit cards!
Actually proving this is damn hard, but I've seen a lot of *very* persuasive evidence. Apps that actually *don't do what they're sold as at all* getting lots of 5* reviews within hours of launch (with very generic comments), then nothing but 1* complaints. People saying their account was hacked and lots of apps bought - and the list of apps contains just a few developer names over and over.
If that's not soulless, I don't know what is.
Oh, and don't get me started on the lowest of the chinese gamers. Jailbreaking their device and pirating apps, ok, I can understand it. It's stealing, but nothing to get super angry about. Buying hacked itunes accounts, so they can buy in-game upgrades with somebody else's credit card? That's stealing from somebody's wallet directly, just to get ahead in a game a bit faster. Pure scum!
Actually, I have seen worse than the fart apps on the app store. Much, much worse.
Some devs make really shitty apps. Nothing fundamentally wrong with them, they're just poor gimmicks or very low quality. Of course, few people will buy such shit, and the reviews will be terrible, right?
No. Because the devs pay a "marketing company" to get their app in the charts. The "marketing company" then "buys" many copies of the app to get it in the chart, and leaves many 5* "reviews". Then lots of people see an app in the chart, with glowing reviews, and buy it.. and leave 1* reviews saying it's shit but by then it's too late and the app doesn't stop selling until there's enough 1* reviews to drag the rating right down (at which point the dev updates it, clearing the rating, and repeats).
But wait, you can only buy 1 copy of an app with 1 itunes account? How can you buy many thousands? Easy, steal the account details for lots of people and buy it with their credit cards!
Actually proving this is damn hard, but I've seen a lot of *very* persuasive evidence. Apps that actually *don't do what they're sold as at all* getting lots of 5* reviews within hours of launch (with very generic comments), then nothing but 1* complaints. People saying their account was hacked and lots of apps bought - and the list of apps contains just a few developer names over and over.
If that's not soulless, I don't know what is.
Oh, and don't get me started on the lowest of the chinese gamers. Jailbreaking their device and pirating apps, ok, I can understand it. It's stealing, but nothing to get super angry about. Buying hacked itunes accounts, so they can buy in-game upgrades with somebody else's credit card? That's stealing from somebody's wallet directly, just to get ahead in a game a bit faster. Pure scum!
psionice: While the iPad stands still, and only gets a cpu upgrade, these cheap chinese pads become better every day. Sometimes the improvements are not those you like, but you get a Samsung galaxy pad alm ost 1:1 cloned for around 250. (A little less than the half.)
You just have to compare. There are dozens of different ones, even with a decent not no-name company behind them.
And since the situation is still like that, i'm still waiting for the best one to come.
Also, i like the idea of having Wifi built in, but the possibility to use 2 SD cards and USB. In some cases its even possible to connect different HID's, like with the iPad and you can also sometimes use one of these "add on monitors" that probably work over USB)
Ofcourse they are still more of a toy. But if there might be some nasty surprises, then its not because there is just someone wants you to have them, its just because the whole system might be a little less thought through.
PS, i got a Windows Mobile Cellphone and almost all Windows Mobile Demos run on it.
You just have to compare. There are dozens of different ones, even with a decent not no-name company behind them.
And since the situation is still like that, i'm still waiting for the best one to come.
Also, i like the idea of having Wifi built in, but the possibility to use 2 SD cards and USB. In some cases its even possible to connect different HID's, like with the iPad and you can also sometimes use one of these "add on monitors" that probably work over USB)
Ofcourse they are still more of a toy. But if there might be some nasty surprises, then its not because there is just someone wants you to have them, its just because the whole system might be a little less thought through.
PS, i got a Windows Mobile Cellphone and almost all Windows Mobile Demos run on it.
(And yes, I'm much better after that rant :D )
exin: if you get one, just keep in mind that the spec sheet is not really important for a tablet. Stuff that is important: screen quality, or it's horrible to use; size + weight (unless you plan to only use it on a stand, if so look at netbooks :) and software quality (anything other than iOS and android 3.0+ is a big phone, it'll suck, and android varies a lot between devices.. plus you'll want to update it). Also speed, not CPU speed but UI and application speed, which depends heavily on the software.
exin: if you get one, just keep in mind that the spec sheet is not really important for a tablet. Stuff that is important: screen quality, or it's horrible to use; size + weight (unless you plan to only use it on a stand, if so look at netbooks :) and software quality (anything other than iOS and android 3.0+ is a big phone, it'll suck, and android varies a lot between devices.. plus you'll want to update it). Also speed, not CPU speed but UI and application speed, which depends heavily on the software.
I was in china last year... doing some shopping I picked up one of those unbranded android tabs, and it was unbearably slow... i noticed that fact to the store guy, and he took the tab from my hands and said something like "if you want fast, go pay $800 to apple".
One of the most honest things I've ever heard on my trips to China :-)
One of the most honest things I've ever heard on my trips to China :-)
I'll consider a tablet when those e-paper like screens become more available.
xernobyl: they're available, they're just not useable :) Well, for anything other than static pages. If you ever see a kindle advert on TV, watch how they never show anybody turning a page ;)