Happy national "not voting conservative" day (UK)!
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wade, wait, did you just say "my favourite party did't get to govern, so elections are an illusion"?
in that light, i think it's largely unfair that 2:20 did not win the outline democompo! it was clearly the best prod. partyvoting doesnt work!
in that light, i think it's largely unfair that 2:20 did not win the outline democompo! it was clearly the best prod. partyvoting doesnt work!
why not? most of germans are scumbags , lots of em made of nazi-idiotism ! ;)
generalizing is bad tho, yes ! but generalizing germans into being nazi doesnt hurt me, as close to noone distances off being dumb-thinking, except all the german-demosceners and them other german friends i have, called punks ! ofcoz my horizon is small !!!
i even met some ghana-punk, ofcoz a black one , he kept providing nazist_propaganda to everywhom passed him, which wasnt few ppl, instead was like +1k people per hour, as he stood infront of the cologne dome, next to cologne main-railstation ! was the first and last black-dude i ever saw/met who was a nazi(-punk) ;)
generalizing is bad tho, yes ! but generalizing germans into being nazi doesnt hurt me, as close to noone distances off being dumb-thinking, except all the german-demosceners and them other german friends i have, called punks ! ofcoz my horizon is small !!!
i even met some ghana-punk, ofcoz a black one , he kept providing nazist_propaganda to everywhom passed him, which wasnt few ppl, instead was like +1k people per hour, as he stood infront of the cologne dome, next to cologne main-railstation ! was the first and last black-dude i ever saw/met who was a nazi(-punk) ;)
@wade:
same here: they tell us who´ll be in charge if the party gets majority, but all other posts are left open , so we blind-vote aswell ;)
thats NOT democracy ;)
"we dont want no chains" ( repeat 4 times )
same here: they tell us who´ll be in charge if the party gets majority, but all other posts are left open , so we blind-vote aswell ;)
thats NOT democracy ;)
"we dont want no chains" ( repeat 4 times )
hardy, my comment wasn't about nazis, it was about freedom of opinion. even all you "i disagree with the way the world is run in general so all i'm doing to do about it is rant on an internet forum!" crowd should understand the importance of freedom of opinion.
it means that if i say that all muslims are terrorists and make a sucky youtube about it, you shouldn't burn down the dutch embassy.
it means that if some german guy thinks it's about time they sell lesvos instead of take a lone, the germans aren't nazis all of a sudden.
that said, i think the situation in greece is all because they added all that yoghurt to the garlic sauce. look at turkey: no yoghurt, no riots.
it means that if i say that all muslims are terrorists and make a sucky youtube about it, you shouldn't burn down the dutch embassy.
it means that if some german guy thinks it's about time they sell lesvos instead of take a lone, the germans aren't nazis all of a sudden.
that said, i think the situation in greece is all because they added all that yoghurt to the garlic sauce. look at turkey: no yoghurt, no riots.
s/lone/loan
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ps. calling the germans "scumbag nazis" just because 2 of them said
something mean doesn't show a strong understanding of democratic principles among the greek crowd.
Sorry, got carried away. Didn't mean it as my quote, but this is how it was projected by some of our media/politicians in the heat of the moment.
Lots of nasty things have been said by us (Greeks) which I find very insulting and makes me feel embarrassed. It is so easy to turn people against people if you have the means (media), thankfully there are still sane voices which point to the real enemy (not the people).
So what about the riots? Greek people will accept their fate and stop AS LONG AS some of our scumbag politicians/lobyists go to PRISON (no, we don't want them to stand down -> go to prison incompetent/corrupt assholes). I believe it is more about the principle than about money.
navis, cheers :-)
thanks for giving an inside view and keeping the bilderbergs out of it.
thanks for giving an inside view and keeping the bilderbergs out of it.
@skrebbel
hhmm, seems you have over-read the "300odd ruling families" line by Navis then ;)
BTW, what I've stated was merely a gathering of facts and information, and I'm not bitter about it, rather
strategic.
Long story short: this is what we are dealing with
hhmm, seems you have over-read the "300odd ruling families" line by Navis then ;)
BTW, what I've stated was merely a gathering of facts and information, and I'm not bitter about it, rather
strategic.
Long story short: this is what we are dealing with
The latest from greece is that the government will force the greek people to do daily backups and use source control in future, but the germans are saying that's not enough and they want hourly backups.
skrebbel: you got me wrong there ;)
ofcoz i am pissed off myself and may sound like if i wanted it like i texted...
...but reading between the lines, which aint that possible in different layouts, youll see i want something completely different !
also the mumbling about nazis was implied by me, havent recognized any significant nazi-impliance by you at all !
this was just another true_statement of my recognition of what is going on in "my_germany" !
ontopic, maybe: its about english election ! haha.
so: FUCK OFF GERMANY ! FUCK OFF GREECE ! FUCK OFF EU !
^^ sorry if i sound harsh, but i mean it ;)
ofcoz i am pissed off myself and may sound like if i wanted it like i texted...
...but reading between the lines, which aint that possible in different layouts, youll see i want something completely different !
also the mumbling about nazis was implied by me, havent recognized any significant nazi-impliance by you at all !
this was just another true_statement of my recognition of what is going on in "my_germany" !
ontopic, maybe: its about english election ! haha.
so: FUCK OFF GERMANY ! FUCK OFF GREECE ! FUCK OFF EU !
^^ sorry if i sound harsh, but i mean it ;)
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wade, wait, did you just say "my favourite party did't get to govern, so elections are an illusion"?
The point is that it's not just my favourite party, it's the party who got the most votes.
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in that light, i think it's largely unfair that 2:20 did not win the outline democompo! it was clearly the best prod. partyvoting doesnt work!
2:20 didn't win because it didn't get the most votes...that's logical and fair. What would not be fair or logical is giving all the prize money to Farbrausch and giving Rebels nothing, or declaring 2:20 and Peg Winter Hoe the joint winner because their combined votes equals more than first place. This is exactly what has happened in the UK elections.
dodge, wait,
that doesn't look like measurable fact to me. you seem to actually believe that the bilderberg guys & co are conspiring to screw us all over. i believe they're a bunch of rich folks who like the same flavour of sigars and otherwise disagree about stuff just like people always do. your belief is your belief, but it's not "merely a gathering of facts and information".
seriously man, you pulled the bilderberg argument. *of course* the vast majority of people now think you're a conspiracy theorist. what do you expect?
i did not over-read the 300 odd ruling families line. i completely believe that that's not far off of the truth. i also believe those families disagree with each other, are incompetent to a large extent and definitely are not controlled by evil men in dark rooms.
the more people rule, and the smaller the country they rule, the smaller the impact of their (and everybody's) incompetence. this is why northern european countries suck less. they're small and relatively democratic. power is not at all equally distributed, but more than in most places in the world. in this light, i wonder when what is happening in Greece now will happen in the US.
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Keep in mind that, after the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty, the governments finally lost any souvereignty that they had left inside the EU!
So in essence "our" governments are rogue and are following their creditors (i.e. the bankster cunts).
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The football world cup is soon to take off. So the football nations will yet again fall for ye olde
roman trick "bread and games". The legeslation which is sure to happen all over the place
inbetween these days of the world cup won't get any public scrutiny, and after the huuuge hangover the
people will recognise months later, that they have been fucked once again by their masters.
Also the infamous Bilderberg meeting will take place near Barcelona in Sitges from June 3-6 this year,
right before the world cup starts.
Thus, instead of watching the bloody matches, keep an eye on what's happening in your country.
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Both of it is total bollocks and is only planted to distract the greek and german people from who the real enemy is.
that doesn't look like measurable fact to me. you seem to actually believe that the bilderberg guys & co are conspiring to screw us all over. i believe they're a bunch of rich folks who like the same flavour of sigars and otherwise disagree about stuff just like people always do. your belief is your belief, but it's not "merely a gathering of facts and information".
seriously man, you pulled the bilderberg argument. *of course* the vast majority of people now think you're a conspiracy theorist. what do you expect?
i did not over-read the 300 odd ruling families line. i completely believe that that's not far off of the truth. i also believe those families disagree with each other, are incompetent to a large extent and definitely are not controlled by evil men in dark rooms.
the more people rule, and the smaller the country they rule, the smaller the impact of their (and everybody's) incompetence. this is why northern european countries suck less. they're small and relatively democratic. power is not at all equally distributed, but more than in most places in the world. in this light, i wonder when what is happening in Greece now will happen in the US.
"lesvos" is named "lesbos" in germany, degrading that beautiful island to being only visitable to lesbian women ! ofcoz they wanna buy it, so Lizzie and Angie can make love ! maybe they just try to get the Gallapagos before aswell so they can have some lovable_turtles there then to assist ! :/
^^ ok, i drift away, but i´m a hate-hungry-man ! ang0r !
"der Turm stürzt ein ! ( 3 times ) , Hallelujah, der Turm stürzt ein !"
^^ ok, i drift away, but i´m a hate-hungry-man ! ang0r !
"der Turm stürzt ein ! ( 3 times ) , Hallelujah, der Turm stürzt ein !"
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gathering of facts and information
^^ i so hate that ! reading/quoting this is a pain not to be described to me !
i never rely on anyone elses ideas or thinkings or whatever... who does is weak and should buy some brain !
^^ sorry, i am unPC as said ! this just akKed me so i had to do another useless post !
wade: exactly ! one hasnt enuff, so we let someone else join, so we have enuff !
results in:
1.) the majority of voters rendered useless !
2.) the major-voted party has more to say due to more seats ( above their small additional-party )
3.) even if 40 against 40.1% one party has the chance to rule, so faking votes is the most close possibility to do some putsch ( clue ) , which aint recognizale this way aswell, so win/win/win-situation ;)
hardy, learn a history lesson and try to discover why lesbians are called "lesbians".
or just take some more booze/drugs and stfu :P
@skrebbel:
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is a fact. And if haven't realised that by now ... pitty you.
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was a strategic view from my own point of perspective - how I see the things may happen in short term
Thing is, the Bilderberg conference is reality and since there is next to no public scrutiny about top notch society folks gathering, when in real life just _one_ of them (your Queen for example) causes a media hype,
just leaves me scratching my head wondering what these guys are talking about with the invited media people and politicians. That's specualtion of course ... again because no mainstream press will seriously cover the event.
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is a fact. And if you want to know how it works, I recommend to you the works of Edward Bernays or a peak into Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel's stuff.
Totally agree. See, I never stated the "men in dark rooms" shit.
But you have got to realise that this illustrious conference is a part of the "ruling 300" if you will.
So no "X-Files" shit. I do follow the financial markets and the political / geo strategic ongoings very closely because I'm plainly interested in them. And there is no doubt in my mind that this is all just a great game of chess to these people (but with more players).
And whenever one of these pricks has the chance to boot another one of his kind out of the game - by hook or by crook - they will do so with an eye blink.
1st quote
is a fact. And if haven't realised that by now ... pitty you.
2nd quote
was a strategic view from my own point of perspective - how I see the things may happen in short term
Thing is, the Bilderberg conference is reality and since there is next to no public scrutiny about top notch society folks gathering, when in real life just _one_ of them (your Queen for example) causes a media hype,
just leaves me scratching my head wondering what these guys are talking about with the invited media people and politicians. That's specualtion of course ... again because no mainstream press will seriously cover the event.
3rd quote
is a fact. And if you want to know how it works, I recommend to you the works of Edward Bernays or a peak into Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel's stuff.
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i also believe those families disagree with each other, are incompetent to a large extent and definitely are not controlled by evil men in dark rooms.
Totally agree. See, I never stated the "men in dark rooms" shit.
But you have got to realise that this illustrious conference is a part of the "ruling 300" if you will.
So no "X-Files" shit. I do follow the financial markets and the political / geo strategic ongoings very closely because I'm plainly interested in them. And there is no doubt in my mind that this is all just a great game of chess to these people (but with more players).
And whenever one of these pricks has the chance to boot another one of his kind out of the game - by hook or by crook - they will do so with an eye blink.
dodge, sentences containing "the bankster cunts" or "who the real enemy is" can't be factual. come on. it's opinion. you must've learnt that difference at some point in school.
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i didnt want to post here again 1
i have something to say 9
k, i could have said something meaningful for a change ;)
i swallow as learned in my country then :P
and YOU´ll never get enlightened ! haha ! :D
i didnt want to post here again 1
i have something to say 9
k, i could have said something meaningful for a change ;)
i swallow as learned in my country then :P
and YOU´ll never get enlightened ! haha ! :D
skrebbel
I think I'm entitled to have a personal dislike (an opinion) over some sorts of people that are trying to get all the wealth of the world in their hands - or the hands of their corporations for that matter, right ?
Just as I tolerate your opinion, which I find blatantly naive, to be blunt.
I think I'm entitled to have a personal dislike (an opinion) over some sorts of people that are trying to get all the wealth of the world in their hands - or the hands of their corporations for that matter, right ?
Just as I tolerate your opinion, which I find blatantly naive, to be blunt.
i need all da wealth, but: ( whaddýa say, mini-me´s ? all of you millions ? )
my drunkness says: you are forcing sth named war if you continue !
maybe you and skrebbel are best friends and i just overreact !
if not: get friends ( again ! ) !
its just teh internetZ !
^^ just dont take it serious unless sth could be true in those unwise words ! löl
my drunkness says: you are forcing sth named war if you continue !
maybe you and skrebbel are best friends and i just overreact !
if not: get friends ( again ! ) !
its just teh internetZ !
^^ just dont take it serious unless sth could be true in those unwise words ! löl
About the 300 ruling families: they don't even have to be in the Bilderburg group (or whatever secret/semisecret society). In Greece it is blatantly obvious how the ruling elite screws the place. Just a couple of examples off the top of my head:
Milk is basically a monopoly: a handful of companies doing whatever they want. Some time ago they decided to set the price to an outrageous 1.40 Euros per liter. Who is going to stop them?
Athens used to have a big international airport that was replaced with a new one about 10 years ago. The huge site of the old airport is pretty much in the middle of the city. It could have been made into a nice metropolitan park, with much needed trees to bring some oxygen and cool air to the poor citizens. Only that politicians and corrupt construction agencies (the same people responsible, over the past 50 years, for the ecological *mess* that is urban Greece) would not agree ($$$) on how many fucking malls and cinemas and other crap they could build on public land. So the place is kept as a ruin.
As the joke goes: a Polish, a German and a Greek painter die and go to heaven. St Peter asks them for a price for painting the gate.
- 400 Euros, says the Polish
- 600 Euros, says the German
- 300 Euros,says the Greek
- huh, why so? asks st.Peter
- It is simple. We pocket 1000 each, we give 400 to the Polish to do the job and 600 to the German to keep quiet. :-)
Milk is basically a monopoly: a handful of companies doing whatever they want. Some time ago they decided to set the price to an outrageous 1.40 Euros per liter. Who is going to stop them?
Athens used to have a big international airport that was replaced with a new one about 10 years ago. The huge site of the old airport is pretty much in the middle of the city. It could have been made into a nice metropolitan park, with much needed trees to bring some oxygen and cool air to the poor citizens. Only that politicians and corrupt construction agencies (the same people responsible, over the past 50 years, for the ecological *mess* that is urban Greece) would not agree ($$$) on how many fucking malls and cinemas and other crap they could build on public land. So the place is kept as a ruin.
As the joke goes: a Polish, a German and a Greek painter die and go to heaven. St Peter asks them for a price for painting the gate.
- 400 Euros, says the Polish
- 600 Euros, says the German
- 300 Euros,says the Greek
- huh, why so? asks st.Peter
- It is simple. We pocket 1000 each, we give 400 to the Polish to do the job and 600 to the German to keep quiet. :-)
I meant 3000 (spoiled the joke)
i find it remarkable how naive and myopic nitwits attempt to "debunk" many people's concerns with today's politics by aligning them with Bilderberg. Bilderberg is nothing but a symbol and a pretty damn accurate symbol of how our system today is functioning. and it is not just a Greek or Argentinian phenomenon.
what's going on IS a conspiracy, a conspiracy between our "rulers", corporations and in particular bankers and general ruling elites such as royalty. These politicians we're all supposed to run out and vote for do not represent our interests. The system is corrupt, it's decadent, void of any decent moral human conscious and care for humanity. there is no "module" which you can plug into this overall system to make things "better". you wouldn't install new wheels on a car whose engine had exploded and expect it to work.
this system we are all now living under is focused on harvesting not only OUR wealth and security, but also our very souls and much of its ideals and the mechanisms and means to implement its practices *DO* come from a hardcore of people who happen to attend the Bilderberg meeting once per year. that's a fucking fact if you care to seriously look into. but the Bilderberg is not our main problem, in fact its a very small part of our problem.
our main problem is ourselves and our lack of awareness and understanding of life and what is important for not only our physical survival, but more importantly our spiritual survival. if we knew some basics internal virtues, these "conspirators" couldn't touch us. we would be so strong and powerful that these people would have absolutely no power of influence. sadly, we are naive in spirit (as demonstrated by all those in England currenlt debating over Red, Blue or Yellow), like children at the mercy of a paedophile.
what's going on IS a conspiracy, a conspiracy between our "rulers", corporations and in particular bankers and general ruling elites such as royalty. These politicians we're all supposed to run out and vote for do not represent our interests. The system is corrupt, it's decadent, void of any decent moral human conscious and care for humanity. there is no "module" which you can plug into this overall system to make things "better". you wouldn't install new wheels on a car whose engine had exploded and expect it to work.
this system we are all now living under is focused on harvesting not only OUR wealth and security, but also our very souls and much of its ideals and the mechanisms and means to implement its practices *DO* come from a hardcore of people who happen to attend the Bilderberg meeting once per year. that's a fucking fact if you care to seriously look into. but the Bilderberg is not our main problem, in fact its a very small part of our problem.
our main problem is ourselves and our lack of awareness and understanding of life and what is important for not only our physical survival, but more importantly our spiritual survival. if we knew some basics internal virtues, these "conspirators" couldn't touch us. we would be so strong and powerful that these people would have absolutely no power of influence. sadly, we are naive in spirit (as demonstrated by all those in England currenlt debating over Red, Blue or Yellow), like children at the mercy of a paedophile.
