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Yeah I have a PayPal account, too. Used it with both a Danish and a UK debit card. Dunno if there are extra features if you have a US bank account, but you can pay for stuff with any bank that gives you a Visa or Mastercard or some such.

oh noes, please protect us from the evil pirates, online child molesters and cyber-terrorists!



i'm off on my own delusional tangent here, but i think that was the whole point of this TPC exercise/propaganda stunt. which is probably why they were so cock-sure and seemed to go out of their way NOT to project an image that would gain public favour and support (no in the entire world likes arrogant, cock-sure twits)

they were just doing their jobs.

*TPB

TPC is the guys ranking just below TPB..

lul

Oh, and http://telekompaketet.se/ also says it's tomorrow at 20:00, so unless they haven't updated their site to reflect recent changes, I'm fairly sure I'm correct on the date and time of the vote in the European Parliament.

Act, you damn EU-members!

Ah, right.. I partly stand corrected:

- 21 April: ITRE vote
- 5 May: Plenary vote

I'm wrong... Or seems that demoscene was born BY piracy?

yeah but things change. The snotnose kids from back then grew up to become game and software makers, and this is their shit we're talking about.

eebliss: ok, so if you know the author, it's not ok to copy, gotcha!

most companies have unlicenced software on their machines, why not start there?

arcane: thanx for reminding us about the fundamental amendment 138, which has been rewritten into amendment 46 (because of its rejection by some members of the council... whereas it had been adopted by a vast majority at the european parliament).

btw http://thepiratebay.org/blog/151

and the next european elections are an opportunity to vote against our repressive and retrograde governments!

eebliss: sorry to dissapoint, but i think you'll find game developers are among the most likely to pirate software. the company a last worked for at least, it was common to ask for the latest version of maya/max+crack to be put on a known network share.

the only time anyione has a problem with priacy is when it is directly their "shit" that's being ripped

Now Internet will be a safer place!
yay!

heh http://www.blackouteurope.eu/ 509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

many people do seem to care about their internets :p

http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/Telecoms_package_directives_1st_reading_details_by_score?showmep=CarolineJackson

now reading that list makes me sick

la quadrature du net, excellent reading ;)

You miss the point. Considering how early hackers turned out to become security consultants, game crackers turned out to become game developers or even congressmen, I think Eeblis can be given a shred of a point here. The very same people who fire brimstone and sulphur down on whatever they cannot begin to conceive ...appear to forget they were doing the exact same shit to their own predecessors back when they felt they were changing the world.

I guarantee you that whoever is the head cheese of the "you wouldn't download a car" nazi squad cannot pass the honesty equivalent of the voight-kampf test. Everybody pirates, lies and steals to some extent. Ask the unknown person who saw it fit to steal my bike!

That's alright, you can always download a new one.

i am a happy user of my isp's free-music shop (see http://musik.tdc.dk - once you have paid for your bandwidth, the music is free for download)

Actually, no. Since they appealed on the spot, there is no legal precedence until after the next line of proceedings (IF they are found guilty again).

macaw: Which is one of the better ways to do it. In Norway they are considering introducing a yearly fee that you pay in addition to your ISP subscription, which will go towards compensating authors, musicians and moviemakers, which is also a good suggestion. The problem with it now is that the music industry says that this would be impossible, because there would be no way of knowing which artists should get what -- mind you, this is the same music industry that wants ISPs to shut off access to the internet for people who download illegal MP3s. How the latter is possible but the first one isn't is beyond me. :)

gloom: I know how it all works and it does seem to be a problem, as each song has various percentages for various publishers. To them the shop like macaw mentioned is a good enough solution. Pay once and enjoy. I would say track by track purchase is worse as people might simply get the file somewhere. But paying for a service - for being able to download music - is another thing. And people would gladly pay.

gloom has finally said a bunch of wise words, i'm shocked! x_x

gloom: the content of the ISP-supported shop is very-very mainstream - however, i bet that was also the case with music on pirate bay.

yeah, I couldn't find rare stuff on pirate bay. btw, piratebay is not closed down, so no need to use the past tense )