What about using a free, real men OS?
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<3 KUSMA <3
BUT YOUR A F***ING HIPPIE ALRIGHT (IVE SEEN SO MYSELF)
:)
BUT YOUR A F***ING HIPPIE ALRIGHT (IVE SEEN SO MYSELF)
:)
btw, i still have to see the real men who use linux...... :D
Hehe, that just have been "slackware", of course, but (hehe) it turned out OK in Norwegian anyway..
moT: Its no virus on the site, its just a clever packed archive containing only
some 0-byte files which are 10 times or so compressed, nothing more... He
is a security specialist and his job is it to find out bugs in security-related
software...
I would agree with you moT if microsoft would open their code and would
not behave like they do nowatimes like trying to oppress the free software
with patents and such stuff... But this is something, especially the freedom,
which goes more into society and how we live, than being only a problem
in the software world...
kus ma bite: thanks for opinion... This is something that linux or free software
cannot fulfill at all point now, but they are working on it... There are already
some alternatives for these:
msvc: try kdevelop, it rocks :)
photoshop: check out pixel32, it rocks too :) as powerful as ps...
3dsmax: blender, or even something very expensive like maya...
multi screen: no problem at all and more powerful with rexent X (check
I am nor a hippie or a communist ;-)
And i stop preaching from now on ;-)
some 0-byte files which are 10 times or so compressed, nothing more... He
is a security specialist and his job is it to find out bugs in security-related
software...
I would agree with you moT if microsoft would open their code and would
not behave like they do nowatimes like trying to oppress the free software
with patents and such stuff... But this is something, especially the freedom,
which goes more into society and how we live, than being only a problem
in the software world...
kus ma bite: thanks for opinion... This is something that linux or free software
cannot fulfill at all point now, but they are working on it... There are already
some alternatives for these:
msvc: try kdevelop, it rocks :)
photoshop: check out pixel32, it rocks too :) as powerful as ps...
3dsmax: blender, or even something very expensive like maya...
multi screen: no problem at all and more powerful with rexent X (check
I am nor a hippie or a communist ;-)
And i stop preaching from now on ;-)
hva mener du, hyde? slækt undertøy?
funkyou78:
kdevelop: tried it, and it's been going in the right directions over the last couple of years, but it's still quite a long way behind msvc imo.
pixel32: wow, i didn't know that project still existed! i tested the dos-version(?) back in 99, but i'll give it a shot tonight unless the mighty beer-god steals my time.
blender: bah, no. blender did everything wrong as a modelling-package imo. as for maya, sure, i just never bothered to learn it. and i'm quite tied to 3dsmax these days with custom exporters/plugins (i love you spooky!) etc.
multiscreen: i am using a recent x.org, i'm having major issues like:
- two different resolutions on two different screens, no-go.
- if i do use multi-screen and xinerama, all opengl-applications have their viewport shifted 100 pixels to the right, and the window-content on the left side is just a garbled mess.
- also, i've had issues with font-renderings "sticking" on one screen (staying on top of all other windows etc)
also, the screenshot you directed me to, is a set of servers running multi-head gl on two identical displays. big deal.
kdevelop: tried it, and it's been going in the right directions over the last couple of years, but it's still quite a long way behind msvc imo.
pixel32: wow, i didn't know that project still existed! i tested the dos-version(?) back in 99, but i'll give it a shot tonight unless the mighty beer-god steals my time.
blender: bah, no. blender did everything wrong as a modelling-package imo. as for maya, sure, i just never bothered to learn it. and i'm quite tied to 3dsmax these days with custom exporters/plugins (i love you spooky!) etc.
multiscreen: i am using a recent x.org, i'm having major issues like:
- two different resolutions on two different screens, no-go.
- if i do use multi-screen and xinerama, all opengl-applications have their viewport shifted 100 pixels to the right, and the window-content on the left side is just a garbled mess.
- also, i've had issues with font-renderings "sticking" on one screen (staying on top of all other windows etc)
also, the screenshot you directed me to, is a set of servers running multi-head gl on two identical displays. big deal.
kus-ma: "slask-ware", jeg vet ikke. Inneholder "slask", hørtes ut som en billig vits, men det var altsa en trykklief. sant!
oh, fuck linux, but fuck you all too
pixel32
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Pixel’s price is now $32, the final release by end of 2005 will cost more ($70-100). If you purchase now, you can save $38-68 and all updates until the next major release (v2.0) are included for free.
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Warning: Pixel is still under heavy development and these public versions are highly unstable and not recommended for serious work. You can help me with its development by submitting bug reports or sending feature requests.
WTF!?
YOU SHOULD ALL BE USING COMMODORE BASIC V2!!!!1111
YOU SHOULD ALL BE USING COMMODORE BASIC V2!!!!1111
kus ma bite: are you using xorg 6.8.2 or 7.0? I think with the 7.0 release
there are many things working better... Depending on your distribution you
have to wait some time until its packaged, ubuntu will get it with the dapper
release... I am driving arch linux (rocks!) and its already there... And yes, the
free tools are already away from being perfect but they work on it and wait for
users demanding more features :-) ...
havoc: The only problem i have detected with pixel32 yet is that some files
like psd's with many layers cannot imported correctly yet ... But you can send
the author your files and he fixes it :-) Beside this flaws the program runs very
stable... You should test before writing ;-)
And yes, I loved Basic 2.0 <3
there are many things working better... Depending on your distribution you
have to wait some time until its packaged, ubuntu will get it with the dapper
release... I am driving arch linux (rocks!) and its already there... And yes, the
free tools are already away from being perfect but they work on it and wait for
users demanding more features :-) ...
havoc: The only problem i have detected with pixel32 yet is that some files
like psd's with many layers cannot imported correctly yet ... But you can send
the author your files and he fixes it :-) Beside this flaws the program runs very
stable... You should test before writing ;-)
And yes, I loved Basic 2.0 <3
You just dont get it.
What both Havoc and Kusma pointed out is that Windows (and hell basically every proprietary OS) offers those features _NOW_, ready packaged and WORKING.
Why waste your time with anything u-NIX related when you can just have Windows?
What both Havoc and Kusma pointed out is that Windows (and hell basically every proprietary OS) offers those features _NOW_, ready packaged and WORKING.
Why waste your time with anything u-NIX related when you can just have Windows?
funkyou78: i'm using 6.8, but there are no functional differences between 6.8 and 7.0, only more modular source code and a new build system.
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While this text singles out Microsoft, other companies are equally evil
That pretty much sums it up for me. Evil Microsoft, they want money for their work! Evil, evil.
Real men write demos using debug.exe (right after chopping several trees and killing bears with their bare hands).
This is the one and only way to prove your masculinity and stand out of that mass of IDE-addicted fags!
This is the one and only way to prove your masculinity and stand out of that mass of IDE-addicted fags!
i think linux (and other free OSses) have their qualities. the scriptability and remote admin features and everything server-related, for instance.
personally, linux helped me understand how to code various drivers, and allows me to make scripts that speed up tedious housekeeping stuff which would have cost me ages to code in C++/Java or C#.
i'm not claiming linux is very mature when it comes to being a demo(maker's) platform. but i think most things done in windows can be done in or ported to linux. sadly, even democoders still insists on releasing closed source stuff, as a final artifact from the 8 bit days: "hey ripper, don't even try to crack this as we've got a custom trackloader routed through the keyboard processor, stolen the trace vector, etc".
so, open source and freeness will not make you grow a smelly beard. it will, however, enable you to learn more quickly.
personally, linux helped me understand how to code various drivers, and allows me to make scripts that speed up tedious housekeeping stuff which would have cost me ages to code in C++/Java or C#.
i'm not claiming linux is very mature when it comes to being a demo(maker's) platform. but i think most things done in windows can be done in or ported to linux. sadly, even democoders still insists on releasing closed source stuff, as a final artifact from the 8 bit days: "hey ripper, don't even try to crack this as we've got a custom trackloader routed through the keyboard processor, stolen the trace vector, etc".
so, open source and freeness will not make you grow a smelly beard. it will, however, enable you to learn more quickly.
linux = hippie-soft!
Anyone remember the DemoOS project?
i don't give a shit which OS i'm running, as long as it gets the job done. linux simply doesn't cut it, from a graphics designer's viewpoint. even macintosh (eek!) would be a better option... albeit a ridiculously expensive one... so i'll stick with windoze until a *real* alternative surfaces.. :-)
I think (personal opinion here) that people don't release source, not because of stolen sources but because once you finish a demo project you REALLY don't want anything to do with it anymore. So no source = no annoying people asking 'how the hell does this p-buffer library work, and if you have any workaround for non-win etc'.
Also, I could never, for the life of me, see the educational purposes of releasing non-256byte code. Do you think somebody will benefit from looking at your hacky code ? Never..
Btw another annoying thing is when people upvote productions because 'It runs on bloody apple or because they gave the source'. So what ?
Also, I could never, for the life of me, see the educational purposes of releasing non-256byte code. Do you think somebody will benefit from looking at your hacky code ? Never..
Btw another annoying thing is when people upvote productions because 'It runs on bloody apple or because they gave the source'. So what ?
I definitely second Navis.
alot of people claim democoders do closed source. it's not really like that, it's just a bit more implicit.
ask them and usually you will get some source - most likely nothing you can use for alot of cool things, but that's another story.
alot of people claim democoders do closed source. it's not really like that, it's just a bit more implicit.
ask them and usually you will get some source - most likely nothing you can use for alot of cool things, but that's another story.
heh funkyou78 you are like those alterglobalist people who have sweet utopian ideas but are trying to impose their points of views through 'totalitarian' methods (i exaggerate a bit). If people want to stay stupid, don't force them :p History is full of humanist ideas which turnt into dreadful behaviors...
Linux and all the hippie philosophy & social contract around it are damned cheering, open-source software have proved their efficiency for years (Apache & mysql are the front examples), but they aren't the ultimate panacea. Because some pro devs need to get paid to live ;) and linux isn't really ready yet for entertainment. I like my debian server laptop so much, i like my knoppix survival live dvd as much, but i couldn't live without xp for demo and game fun, and for coding.
i personally advocate the best of the 2 worlds :)
Linux and all the hippie philosophy & social contract around it are damned cheering, open-source software have proved their efficiency for years (Apache & mysql are the front examples), but they aren't the ultimate panacea. Because some pro devs need to get paid to live ;) and linux isn't really ready yet for entertainment. I like my debian server laptop so much, i like my knoppix survival live dvd as much, but i couldn't live without xp for demo and game fun, and for coding.
i personally advocate the best of the 2 worlds :)
real men use windows. out there in the wild, all alone, without any protection, relying on being fast enough to type "shutdown -a" after connecting to the internet.
do you start a thread like this on every BBS?
do you start a thread like this on every BBS?
besides the scene has been msdos- then windows-oriented for years now (except the sites who use real server OS ;), that's the reality of the scene and the world, just face it :)
btw are there such powerful debuggers like Olly or IDA on linux ? i really doubt it :>