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And seat-belts will not 100% work to protect you, therefore they are completely pointless and just increase car prices :-)

Life ends with death.

Yet another mind-shattering conclusion by no other than his serene slyness D4XX the deconstructor, mind of his own, bender of logic, scrunizing scoundrel. Lo and behold.

Here again a never working provocation by the same person who is hiding behind his profile. But we already know about it from you. "At the end of the argument". :-) Much love and hugs to you.

Hiding behind my profile? Are you drunk (again)? You can watch me up on slengpung, where you can see pictures of me being a productive member of this very scene, whereas you have actually never been to party as far as i know and your only contribution to the scene i have ever witnessed was finally being banned from discord. (Thank god.)
(Or do you mean you want my IRL data? Nah, you can't be that numbskulled.)

Anyway, please go on and tell us more about the field of eschatology from the view-point of someone who oh so much loves to discuss matters and listen to himself.
Plus: Never forget i don't think very highly of you and think people like you are dangerous, so don't expect me being nice to you in the near future (or ever actually). You won't see me blatantly insulting you that much anymore, like i did when you molested my friend, no, i'd just rather let you ridicule yourself and just shove you in the right direction.

You're talking nonsense again. What is 'molested' in your eyes? Having different views of things? Talking about things on Facebook-Messener, not coming to a common point and then blocking people may work in your cancel-culture, but not in my culture. I can respect other peoples views but i don't need to life them. And apart from that, I have no clue with whom of your friends I should have written privately.

I also think it's stupid to spread the resentment against me for other topics in this actually discussion in order to discredit my statement just because you won't accept, that you can spread a virus even if you have a vaccination. That won't change anything.

I accept the fact vaccinated people can still transmit the disease abosultey. You won't find any comment from me not doing so, but i don't think you actually care so much about other peoples' opinions.

You don't even get it that i mostly am literally just making fun of you, since you are just not capable of a normal discussion and think this shit you pull off here actually contributes to anything; which, spoiler alert, it does not. I mean, check other thread where you "contributed". The message is pretty clear.
So: Why don't you just, you know, go? People here don't really like you, you know? Many made that pretty clear. Go to another scene to pull off your one-man-show. You getting banned is cancel-cultute. Mhm. Ok.
Oh, i don't care actually. You may as well stay, i'm having fun, you know.

Anyway, i'll be at the discord server, edmundt, you know, where you are not.

You are wrong. I am very interested in other people's opinions and choices. Friends of me have this vaccination and I think it's good that they have it when they feel better and more confident now. It was also her free choice and no one had to force her to do so.

Oh come on. I know who edmundt is but it's 100% not me! So don't spread untruth once again please.

You're right. I was never been on a demoparty cauz of my a sociophobia. Uh yes. I am mostly at home and when i go outside to shopping i wear a mask and i use disinfectants for my hands. And wow, I'm even vaccinated against tetanus, even against polio. It is no secret.

But why do you have to portray people as monsters who, for reasons of XYZ, won't be vaccinated with the new vaccines? Because you can't hug your friends at a party while they're not herd immunity? I thought you are so compassionate with the feelings and fears of other people? But just as long as it doesn't affect your life, right?

However. I am fully OK with it that you don't like me. I can't give it back like this because I don't know you. I only know your harsh manner towards other people and your constant attempt to convince others of your cleverness with degrading words.

her = their*

I'm not sure i follow your argument.

The risk unvaccinated people pose to others is probably pretty much invariant to their reasons for not being vaccinated.

By mentionioning probabilities in this context, are you implying that there is a difference in risk, or that a certain number of unvaccinated people would be okay at a party (and then only those who can't choose), or something else... like, that some risks ought to be taken in favour of certain other values?

That hypothetical person should get it diagnosed and find a doctor to sign a paper saying "this guy cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons" and thus gets free tests. I'm sure the lawmakers would not actually define what the potential medical reasons could be.

Also, he/she might get some help with the issues in the process.

Regarding who should get into a party: Since 1.7.2021, EU has had a digital corona certificate system. It is a way to check if a person has a) full vaccines; b) recent negative test; c) already had COVID-19.

The reading can be setup in a way that the people at the door will not know if you have a vaccine or a negative test, just gives red or green color if you should be let in.

People outside EU will have to show similar documents already just to get to the country, but would probably have to produce either document in digital or physical form. Sorry about the intrusion of privacy...

Anyway, the tech-savvy crowd here will be probably pleased that the best solution is likely to figure out how to read those QR-codes at the door.

Ok, I'm ignorant, there's no need to "figure out", just download the apps :D

In Netherlands, you have coronacheck.nl and the accompanying app on Android / Apple App Store; and there's also CoronaCheck Scanner app to read the QR-codes from the certificate app. The scanner app gives you either a) red light; or b) green light, provided the name and age match these values (check ID!).

Not sure why these are Netherlands only, but I'm sure other EU countries have similar things existing, if not already.

I am really not sure why these apps are Netherlands only; the scanner app scans successfully my Finland issued EU-vaccination certificate. In Finland, the certificates (vaccine/recent test/past corona) can be downloaded from online.

A small correction: it did not even show my full name, just green light, initials (V S), and birthdate. So accompanying ID check is necessary.

edmundt about D4XX in discord:
"who?
oh, the dude being very skilled but only focusing on remixing amiga / c64 / demoscene tracks."
Gotta love that vibe. You are so full of yourself. Yeah sure you have nothing to do with that guy. That's why out of nowhere someone comes into the discord channel and mysteriously and flatteringly talks to me about what's happening here with the somewhat same style you are regarding the use of language. I really don't care actually.

Anyway: If you didn't manage to realize that: I am a very nice person towards people who are dear to as well as people i don't know (mostly - depends on their intial behaviour). As a matter of fact, it's my job to get along with people and i have proven to be capable of that many a time.

I also, which may wonder you, accept people having fears about being vaccinated a lot, since it is a complex matter, and both the politics and the media have done their job of fucking up the topic and spreading the seeds of doubt so well. Hell, even i was very unsecure about that matter and consider myself lucky for having a lot of friends who are MDs and who discussed this matter with me thoroughly.
You don't see me or anyone else talking other people down, some of which have very different opinions on the matter, do you? (Well, except people like Gabbie, who may as well think the reptilian overlords made the vaccine to get rid of the humans once and for all.)

Now why people keep on bugging or ignoring you? Because you are not a productive part of this discussion. I've double-checked the stuff you said in the past and, yes indeed, you picture yourself here as the victim, but you were a lot more aggressive in your behaviour in the past, what among other things led to your ban. You know, you could have taken responsibility for your actions. You didn't, except, of course, for that rather poor attempt in form of a one-man-show-thread, good job, kevin.
What you did, though, was spreading a lot of misinformation and therefore endangering people in the long run. Talk shit, get hit. Your only defense mechanism? Blaming "cancel culture", insulting people and being hurtful to others in the name of "free speech".
I do not exactly take kindly to that kind of behaviour.

There are actually some people in the demoscene with some worldviews most people do not comply with, but they figured out that talking about these topics the same way you did doesn't get them anything but trouble, so they decided to seperate this and changed their behaviour in the demoscene. That could have been a way.
But no. You decide to just keep on acting up like a child hitting puberty, rebelling no matter what.

So ask youself: Did you, despite the fact that you allegedly are so without hate and drop a smiling emoji every now and then, did some things that hurt people directly, indirectly or in the long run, maybe made them feel somewhat uncomfortable or said things that are plainly wrong? I say yes. Why else would they turn their back on you? Did you actually ever said you're sorry, if that was the case? Not that i recall. Check your own thread, nothing. It's just about you.
If it would have been different, you maybe wouldn't have been banned in the first and people would not be avoiding discussions with you. People don't like you and move away from you. But you don't seem to be realizing that.

Do you actually think we're all agreeing on these matters? Not only regarding vaccination, but everything? Spoiler: No. We don't. I don't like the how some things develop as well, but i kind of seem to be a bit more careful or modest when it comes to voicing opinions on certain matters or give them a second thought.
You are not and that's fine; but please live with the consequences that people think you're an idiot, if doing so. I do that as well, believe it or not.

So, i hope people like pestis and salinga keep on being the awesome mfs they are, so i can maybe meet them in person someday, and that you and the likes of you eventually disappear from this board or the scene whatsoever, since the majority of people, and i repeat myself, made clear they don't like interacting with you very much.

Thanks again to all the others who just are the way they are, even if we may not be on the same page now and then. D4XX apparently on the other hand isn't even on the same book shelf.

Enough from me. I made my point clear more than once. I shall maintain a lower profile from now one and just keep getting on other people's nerves, if irredeemably necessary.

First: Once again. I am not edmundt (Check IP Adresses) but i know who he is. If he wrote you, than it maybe could be, that you mentioned his name here on pouet.


Yeah, that why i hug and love you. <3


Quick: Which one? (No Party = Best party) ?
If this was misinformation then sorry to you but i think this is the best way.

You were also wrong that nobody in the scene likes me. That is not right. There are a few that actually do not like me, thats true. But please do not speak representative of everyone. That already resembles a propagandaish style tbh. And sorry, but. You don't represent the demo scene either.

I could now strike back and tell you that many demosceners wrote me on whatsapp and only feel abhorrence for you and your way of communicating. One even said you weren't the brightest candle on the cake. Does that mean, Demoscene thinks you are dumb? I don't think so. But according to your point of view ...... but let's leave that. Getting personal all the time doesn't lead to anything.

For me, cancel culture is when people provoke other people into discussion with statements like "Everyone who does not get vaccinated is an egoist and has no empathy" - or "Get vaccinated or fuck yourselves" - "You are to blame for the dead, because you don't get vaccinated ", to name a few, then bombard people with targeted questions to force the person to express their views and then ban the person if the view does not conform to their own. And in the end they say: Yes, you wouldn’t have started the discussion. *wink smiley*



Ah, thank you for admitting scamps right here. You have to have different opinions to discuss, and so you admit that there are demosceners who hate or dislike others because they have a different opinion. That’s a great concession.

Yes, I have also said everything about it. NO PARTY = BEST PARTY!
But if someone comes back with the standard ramblings ala Seat Belt or "have we heard 100 times" stuff, I will answer again.

Make that one more and stop posting bullshit on a site you do not care about, Edmundt.

Sorry SIR but... 20-30 people in a scene with 20000+ member? = a few. :)

Would be cool if you could duke it out somewhere else, signal to noise ratio in this thread is already quite bad as it is. =)

Seconded

And yet again pestering me on discord, D4XX. You are just a creep.
Stay away from me.

I just proofed you that i am not Edmundt :)

No, you said you have multple accounts on discord, therefore proving exactly nothing but you being a creep. But i wouldn't expect you to even grasp the simplest logic.

Now if you would please get the hell away, you creepy, weird man?
Again: No one likes you here.

You will never stop me from answering you as long as you act like a petulant little kid.

Yeah fuck this thread too.

I'm really getting sick of this.