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anyone knows what the real first demoparty was?
on any scene, the first one ever that there is memory of.. not copyparty; something already with compos / new releases..

i know it sounds like a newbie question but i wanna know exactly which one was it..

like, actual name date and place..

cant remember those things, but i think my first big official party was "the party".

On http://exotica.fix.no/ you can find the following info:

24-26.07.1987 The Danish Circle party.
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Held in Soroe (Sorø), Denmark by The Danish Circle (TDC) in an old scout hut. About 200 people showed up for the weekend-long party. It was held the same weekend as the more wellknown Danish Gold party, also in denmark! Thanks to Spirit/Dominators for the info!


24-26.07.1986 Danish Gold Copy Party.
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DG87 was held in Odense, Denmark for the c64 scene. It was announced in cracktros from DG, and confirmed from other sources. The attendants voted on 'cracker of the year', and the competition was won by Mr.Z/Triad, followed by Laffen/Raw Deal. It was held the same weekend as The Danish Circle party, also in denmark! It was also at this party that Razor 1911 amiga was originally formed.

24-26.07.1987 Danish Gold Copy Party. 1987 certainly NOT 1986!

The first parties were the Venlo Meetings in Holland, for the C-64 cracker scene. The very first one was probably in 1985, but nobody kept a record of parties back then.

Tomcat, can you tell me some dudes, groups' names? Thx.

=)

ps wrote: "not copyparty"
sim wrote: "24-26.07.1987 Danish Gold Copy Party"

Yep, you are right ~sagacity. But well, that info was taken from Exocica, so it is a historical point of view and I suppose it was written at least 10 years after the party was held. It does not mean that at that time the organizers called it Copy Party. We gotta ask DanishGold organizers or find an invitation (is it possible?).

sim:
Just take a look at any contemporary cracker intro. Ikari, Danish Gold, Raw Deal, 1001 Crew, Triad, Bitstoppers, whatever. Venlo Meetings were held at irregular intervals, several times a year, and most of them took only one afternoon/night.

I know those groups quite well and also know a li'l the history of Venlo meetings too. I wanted to know that exactly party participants. But thx anyway =).

Yeah, the line seems to blur a lot between copy parties and demo parties around that time. According to Exotica, some demos (not crack intros) were released at parties in 1987, but it looks like the first major demo compo was at the Byterapers Grendelparty, 08-14.08 1988.

about the DG parties, perhaps sphinx and turtle could say something on this subject... they are both registered here.

Yeah, I can second Phoenix on that. The first parties with democompos were the little Byterapers parties. But those were actually just little home parties, for 10-12 little kids. The Danish Gold copyparty was the first "real" party to have a demo compo.

dip: unless they're being really busy at acting like bitter, drunk people bitching about how n00bs are lacking respect for them, like at evoke.

I find it really hard to pinpoint the fist *demo*party. Kind of trying to find the bones of the *first* Homo Sapiens.

(cue first homo related joke)

Kind of trying to find the boner of the *first* Homo.

it seems to becoming true what twoflower expressed his worry about during his lecture about the swedish demoscene, together with iopop at lcp03: that people will start to see everything thats written on exotica as the truth, and use the site as their only source of information

If you know something on exotica to be untrue, email them to correct it. No use keeping the truth to yourself. Or start up your own site, competition never hurts. :)

Tomcat, are you sure the "Venlo Meetings" were regular demoparties and not the meetings of the S.H.N. (Stichting Homecomputers Nederland) ? These were rather popular among early scene people on several platforms. I didn't visit any of the meetings until 1988 or so, but other sceners were there at least as early as 1986:

http://www.42nd.net/stnews/reflex.htm

phoenix, for c64 demoscene there is http://noname.c64.org/csdb where anyone can add and correct the information, or start a discussion if something seems odd.

First party ever. Imo, we might give an answer for it only, if we make some conditions:
1. 'Definition' of the party. If an assembly of neighbour computer freax at ones' place could be called as a Party back then? If so => no precised answer will be done.
2. Party where there were more then for example 30 party dudes, and/or if there was a demo competition. If so, it is possible.

Giving those or similar points could lead to/give us the answer. What do you think? Cause now we are talking about if sb is right or not.

But as usual, there will be an approximate answer. But all right.

Under "party", I mean, an underground computer gathering, publicly advertised within the underground subculture, with visitors before unknown for the organizer(s). The latter condition excludes plain house parties, where some friends were invited. If we wouldn't, then the first party were when two computer owners met somewhere.