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Batman Forever by Batman Group [nfo]

platform :

  Amstrad CPC
type :

  demo
release date : march 2011
release party : Forever 2011
compo : cpc demo
ranked : 1st
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average rating 0.99 cdc 9
alltime top: #35
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added on the 2011-03-20 by Rhino/BG  

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Somehow I've missed this thing because I've confused this with Batman Vuelve and didn't bother checking it.

Anyway, after reading all the comments I was expecting something at the same level as Edge of Disgrace, it's not that good. It has a great soundtrack, some great effects, and a really cool flow. It's specially cool because all the demo is done in overscan.
  added on the 2011-04-15 22:43:20 by xernobyl  
@xernobyl or chernobil or Yuko Shima
yes not as good but better than edge of disgrace
actually rhino disgraced the hall 8bit scene
  added on the 2011-04-15 23:55:21 by breakbeatsz  
Cool. Dig the music.
  added on the 2011-04-16 01:51:22 by raer  
I like oldschool.
  added on the 2011-04-16 03:36:19 by duffman  
sinus dots ruled
  added on the 2011-04-16 20:10:08 by xteraco  
I've seen more about 8 bits/16 bits capabilities in dreams that I made awake about demoscene, keep the good stuff !
  added on the 2011-04-20 12:05:12 by Bartoshe  
Awesome prod!
Impressive technical stuff with a very good design.
More demos like this one please :)
  added on the 2011-04-25 02:36:43 by Strider  
omfg!! batman group strikes back with a vengeance. everything that makes a demo cool is in here, great mood, awesome gfx, nice design, a shitload of effects, world records, great music and the attitude, yeah there are not enough thumbs to give.
thx ...... btw here is a great utube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-rXnRU4nE&feature=related now go and watch it :)
  added on the 2011-04-25 10:19:44 by extralife  
i have just installed a 3.5" floppy to my CPC6128. all games and other demos i've copied to disk work ok. but i have copied Batman Forever to 3 floppies (720k) using CPCDiskXP v2.1 and it doesnt work. CAT doesnt list any files and run "disk does nothing.

are the file ok on this link?
  added on the 2011-05-27 23:54:08 by button  
@button
batman comes in two versions
use the dsk for the 3,5 floppy
you will only need 1 floppy as it has special loader that can read the whole disc
  added on the 2011-05-29 11:01:40 by breakbeatsz  
break: well i tried the single .dsk version too. used 720k and 1.44mb floppies... tried all different combinations but it doesnt work. maybe the loader just doesnt like my disk drive. but its weird because everything else i've tried works. only this demo.
  added on the 2011-05-31 05:21:18 by button  
just a quick question: does the demo require a modified ROM? or should it work with the standard Amstrad ROM?
  added on the 2011-06-11 23:34:01 by button  
nevermind. i figured out what i was doing wrong. works great.
  added on the 2011-06-12 01:31:53 by button  
Excellent demo.

I was mostly impressed with texture twisting and elastic zoom.

Any insight on the CRTC techniques used for those.
I was in the CPC scene from approx. 1987 - 1992 and in the last year we worked a lot on CRTC effects, so therefore the curiosity.

As for twister is that some trick with register 2 combined with line rupture?

And elastic zoom:
I get how the vertical zooming is done, I did some trick with pallette shifting to do horizontal zooming (obviously limited scalling), this looks much better though. I reckon it's horizontal splits mixed with ? :)

Anyhow thumbs up, cool production :)
  added on the 2011-06-14 21:50:18 by JCP / Psyhix  
@NWC

Nice to see you again :)

If Rhino doesn't add in, I am interested in what you think to my questions. I am guessing the techinique is somehow related to what you used in the Unique big sine scroll - still annoys me I haven't figured that one out :)
I remember we could do 13 splitrasters, can you really do more scrollling splits or am I missing something....
  added on the 2011-06-16 00:04:35 by JCP / Psyhix  
I get it now.

Pre-calculated line per line horizontal data, displayed with line rupturing (and reg 9 rep).

Right?
  added on the 2011-06-16 00:30:22 by JCP / Psyhix  
Hi JPC,

For the elastic zoom I used a horizontal streching routine in realtime, and line splitting + rasters for the vertical streching.

The twister is basically a vertical scroll by hardware of a generated gfx mixed with rasters.
  added on the 2011-06-16 21:53:16 by Rhino/BG  
this is incredible! very impressive!
  added on the 2011-06-27 01:55:04 by phobium  
Thanks Rhino for explaing the techiniques involved. It's rather impressive thought out, shame we weren't seeing this back in the days it would have evolved the scene massively from the zillions of hardscrollers and rasters that were cool back then :)
  added on the 2011-06-27 23:53:35 by JCP / Psyhix  
fucking great!
  added on the 2011-07-20 20:54:52 by marsel84  
They've just played it at Euskal. It's amazing.
  added on the 2011-07-23 00:37:09 by stage7  
Best Amstrad demo i ever seen :>
  added on the 2011-08-17 20:03:47 by bittin  
Fan! AmazzzzzzzzzING!
  added on the 2011-08-17 20:07:43 by sim  
Much better direction than Edge of Disgrace, I guess this is my favorite demo as far as 8-bit platforms go. Lovely music from Factor6 as well! Great job!
  added on the 2011-09-05 20:56:43 by moozooh  
Don't really know the CPC, but seems impressive and is fastpaced enough to not be one of those oldskool demos that bore me to death by showing one effect for ages before moving to the next one
  added on the 2011-09-10 13:22:58 by stijn  

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