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berlin bear by Berlin Cracking Service

platform :

  Commodore 64
type :

  cracktro
release date : 1984
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Kb: as you well know, Pouet Inc. is a subsidiary of TNT: http://www.tnt.tv/ ;)

"We Know Drama". It's written all over it (TNT and Pouet)
  added on the 2007-12-03 15:43:49 by keops  
drama schama
  added on the 2007-12-03 16:02:05 by uns3en_  
It is really esprit to read those lines from Don about my person using fake accounts to express my own opinion. I can personally assure you that I officially can militate my opinion and can attend to it my own name.

First of all: Nice to see you posting your first crack from 1983, packed with Timecruncher v5.0 released in 1988. All I can mention is that the game got infact released by Kotzbrocken in 1985 (the copyright is misleading) like you can check in it's crack at $0200. Let me allow one question: Where is the beef?

Next of all this entire debate about the origin of the BCS intro has been led by a user on CSDb. He compared the display code in this certain intro with the Paint Magic Version by JEDI. The result is that the display code used is copied from that certain paint program. So how comes that the socalled 1982 intro contains this code? Did the programmer of Paint Magic (which is NOT from 1982) copied the code from Berlin Cracking Service or vice versa?

During the same process the same person has uncovered several recracks by BCS and the latter Antitrax. This includes original releases by JEDI, Antiprotect and the american cracking group XPB.

What this debate led into was some wild claims that some weirdo would have been manufactored "fake releases" to "place mud on Alien". He directly hinted into my and into the direction of The Movers, which are infamy incriminations. The Movers and me just commented this 1982 affair, as we already pointed out several flaws concerning Aliens stories in the past.

We however did this in EYE-TO-EYE.

Everybody can draw conclusions on their own considering that Alien has given an interview which describes the entire affair in a good modality:
http://www.jonatanforsberg.net/krams/46alien-pcinterview.htm

"A positive moment for me was when the father of a classmate who was working for Apple, was able to through his connections, obtain a C64 on Christmas 1982."

How can be Alien so sure about the release date of this intro if he ostensible wasn't even involved in the process of creating it?

How can the intro be coded in 1982 if Alien (founding member of PC/BCS/Antitrax) got his C64 in December 1982?!?

Next to it even the best connected ones weren't able to obtain a computer officially presented in Las Vegas on January 1982 in prototype revision at this timeframe.

There are several of these deceptions you are running in while checking the actual releases by these groups and the statements Alien has conducted in this certain interviews or other public expressions.

One good example of many deceptions is one which involves Hanse, a game obviously published by Ariolasoft in 1986, which Alien claims to have cracked in 1982: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=18888 like his own conducted CSDb entry inevitably proves.

All critical voices and debates of releases and the original release date of this intro have resulted in personal attacks and defamation of involved persons like you can read in the CSDb thread of the Movers.
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/group/?id=2014

All questions concerning proofs and concurrent evidence for all the various claims by Alien have never been answered.

If and to the extent to which I made my comment were some lines about the Movers. I underlined that The Movers have nothing to do with any fakes releases. It got even proved that these releases are validated with the years the group BCS has been active. Nevertheless it is important to point out that no one has found a legit release with the Berlin Bear intro which was NO recrack of any JEDI, Antiprotect or Crackmen Crew version.

Considering the matter of fact that you personally attack me and take a quote of Captain Kidd / ESI without even knowing the background or being involved with this matter, just shows me that these words involved with you are hitting the bullseye. While you are at it, you could ask this certain person for the entire mail traffic. This should prove that his utterances are factoid. Besides that they are no topic here, in contrast to your claims that me or The Movers should have faked releases to throw mud at BCS.
  added on the 2007-12-05 02:09:27 by jf2071  
die mauer muss höher
  added on the 2007-12-21 03:00:11 by FUCK NEWSK00L  
lern maurer.. srsly, why downthumbing some of the first demo, perhaps the start of "our" "scene"? strange..
  added on the 2007-12-21 18:41:10 by mad  
Very amusing little discussion here.
  added on the 2007-12-28 14:18:07 by Midfit  
lol..
  added on the 2008-01-29 17:23:10 by panic  
Yeah its pretty ugly, but an easy thumb for historical value if nothing else.
  added on the 2008-12-22 22:46:33 by pigpen  
i saw this the first time when i was 5 at my cousins brandnew c64 ! that must have been in summer 83 or 84 !
man, i visited my cousin that often these days and i got more and more interested in those cracktros...and 25+ years later i am still a scener !
  added on the 2010-03-28 01:35:12 by hArDy.  
hardy, in + years you will still be interested in that stuff!
:)
  added on the 2010-03-28 03:23:26 by mEDiA sENtRY  
Fuck yeah, Berlin Cracking Service. I have a flashback!
  added on the 2010-03-28 06:22:21 by Dano  
  added on the 2010-04-02 12:11:26 by wullon  
Deserves respect!
  added on the 2010-04-02 12:23:59 by TomoAlien  
ZING!!!!!
  added on the 2010-05-25 11:53:54 by Sir  
firstie thumb ;)
  added on the 2012-08-30 15:30:00 by Fell  
Legendary!
  added on the 2013-05-29 10:41:48 by rez  

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